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Old May 12, 2020, 2:04 pm
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Widebody Schedule May 5-11-20
cargo-only flights are listed

12 May 2020
Originally Posted by EWR764
UA cargo-only service for May listed by hub with return flights mostly deleted (cargo-only sections in 27XX/28XX flight number range):

EWR-BOM 2830 77W 3x
EWR-FRA 2798 77W/787 3x
EWR-SFO 2730 77W 1x

GUM-LAX 2797 77W/787 Daily (operating PVG-LAX-GUM)
GUM-PVG 2778 77W Daily
GUM-SFO 2849 77W 3x (operating TPE-GUM-SFO)
GUM-TPE 2847 77W 3x

HKG-SIN 2861 77W/787 3x

IAD-BRU 2792 787 3x
IAD-DUB 2816 787 3x
IAD-NRT 2863 787 Daily
IAD-SJU 2810 77W 1x

IAH-AMS 2786 77W 2x
IAH-FRA 2788 77W 3x
IAH-SCL 2790 787 2x

LAX-FRA 2796 77W 3x
LAX-GUM 2765 77W Daily (operating LAX-GUM-PVG)
LAX-HKG 2852 77W Daily
LAX-HKG 2774 77W Daily
LAX-LHR 2800 787 2x
LAX-SYD 2812 787 4x

NRT-CTU 2801 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2845 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2822 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2836 787 4x
NRT-PVG 2808 787 Daily
NRT-PVG 2850 787 Daily

ORD-AMS 2810 787 2x
ORD-BRU 2841 787 Daily
ORD-FRA 2776 77W 3x
ORD-HKG 2865 77W Daily
ORD-LHR 2806 787 2x
ORD-NRT 2820 787 Daily
ORD-NRT 2821 787 Daily
ORD-SFO 2853 77W 1x
ORD-ZRH 2782 787 3x

SFO-AMS 2768 77W 3x
SFO-FRA 2780 77W 2x
SFO-GUM 2846 77W 3x
SFO-HKG 2861 77W/787 3x
SFO-ICN 2832 787 3x
SFO-MEL 2854 1x
SFO-NRT 2826 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2834 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2835 787 4x
SFO-SYD 2812 787 3x

All 777 flights are 77W, 787s are EQV, all series, but mostly 789.

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Old Apr 2, 2020, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
I can't picture an easily-configurable & reconfigurable transition from passenger to cargo when it involves removing passenger sections. In some cases it may not be necessary anyway; I'd think some cargo is of sufficient density that a cargo hold might come close to max capacity on its own. Maybe.
Crashworthiness and fire containment standards make the "quick-change" and Combi concepts virtually impossible in this era. But, low-density cargo in the cabin with the real moneymaking freight in otherwise-empty bellies (or not even flying) is a reasonable stopgap to generate some much-needed cashflow and meet a need when so many passenger flights are suspended.

It's fair to hypothesize that this is only a transitional time. There isn't actually greater cargo demand, just dramatically reduced capacity. As more flights resume, rates will probably stabilize, although we might see a healthier mix of cargo on pax flights... perhaps leading to a greater proliferation of hand baggage-only fares?
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Old Apr 2, 2020, 9:14 am
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Why haven't they cancelled China flights in May yet?
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Old Apr 2, 2020, 9:36 am
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Why haven't they cancelled China flights in May yet?
Got their hands full dealing with April at the moment.
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Old Apr 2, 2020, 2:10 pm
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Why haven't they cancelled China flights in May yet?
Since most of global PPE and pharmaceutical components are sourced from China currently, there is case to maintain flights and convert to essentially cargo for critical healthcare supplies
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Old Apr 2, 2020, 2:46 pm
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Delta just reinstated 3x weekly service to China, cargo only.
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Old Apr 2, 2020, 9:47 pm
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Originally Posted by nw6338
I assume it's cargo, but anyone know why UA is flying the 77W from LAX-HKG today and tomorrow? See it loaded in the schedule on flight aware + one flight en route. Nothing on UA.com
Originally Posted by dkc192
It's been happening for the better part of a week now, with 27XX or 28XX flight numbers.
CX was running 3, sometimes 4 flights daily, and AA another one. The route is down to CX 2x weekly now. There is obviously a lot of cargo capacity missing at this time.
Looks like UA is able to serve cargo demand on that route.
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Old Apr 2, 2020, 10:56 pm
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This thread has gotten me all nostalgic for the Worldwide Cargo DC-10s. I remember seeing those at LAX
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Old Apr 3, 2020, 3:07 am
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Might be alot more cargo opportunities if Chinese government and UPS/FedEx dont get their spat figured out.

FedEx and UPS pilots refusing to take Chinese required Covid testing.
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Old Apr 3, 2020, 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by npei
Since most of global PPE and pharmaceutical components are sourced from China currently, there is case to maintain flights and convert to essentially cargo for critical healthcare supplies
Until they cancel the passenger tickets for the cargo flights, I think I'm not technically eligible for a refund.
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Old Apr 3, 2020, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by UAL757222
This thread has gotten me all nostalgic for the Worldwide Cargo DC-10s. I remember seeing those at LAX
loved the look of those! While there was no chance of happening, I really wanted the new UA to convert the CO 762's to freighters.
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Old Apr 3, 2020, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by dkmatter
Until they cancel the passenger tickets for the cargo flights, I think I'm not technically eligible for a refund.
The cargo flights have completely different flight numbers, there are no passenger flights. No such thing as a passenger ticket on a cargo flight.
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Old Apr 3, 2020, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by CALMSP
loved the look of those! While there was no chance of happening, I really wanted the new UA to convert the CO 762's to freighters.
I believe one or two of those is now flying Freight
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Old Apr 4, 2020, 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by worldtrav
The cargo flights have completely different flight numbers, there are no passenger flights. No such thing as a passenger ticket on a cargo flight.
I have China US round trip flights in May that aren't cancelled. No waiver covering refunds in May for China yet. They aren't selling seats but the flights still exist on my ticket.
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Old Apr 6, 2020, 11:25 am
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On ExpertFlyer, the ferry flights are explicitly noted:
Code:
2767/06APR
P FRA/OUT 1218P E00.12 EST OFF 1237P
P FRA/OFF 1234P
P EWR/ETA 223P E02.02
D HDQ/*** UPS - FERRY FLT - NO REVENUE PAX...NOC

SKED FRA ORIG 1230P GTD HOLD SHIP 148
EWR 305P TERM GTA B63
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