Apr 3, 2019, 8:38 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
This is an archive thread, the master thread is UA MP Saver Award/Upgrade Inventory (& partners) -when is it released?
United Saver Award/Upgrade Inventory (& partners) - when is it released? [Archive]
Jun 23, 2019, 10:25 am
#3661
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Or maybe not IT issue and they are just restricting availability...something has changed year over year...dynamic pricing maybe...
Jun 23, 2019, 10:40 am
#3662
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There has been a long downward trend in award availability and I would agree it has now reached new lows.
Combination of increased demand (more people with more miles hoping to redeem) and decreased supply (strong demand for paid seats and airlines reducing releases of award seats).
Combination of increased demand (more people with more miles hoping to redeem) and decreased supply (strong demand for paid seats and airlines reducing releases of award seats).
Jun 23, 2019, 10:50 am
#3663
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So, the net of the above are few award seats and especially for TATL few empty seats.
Can seats still be found, yes but this close-in to travel, it will be last second availability and indirect routes.
Jun 23, 2019, 11:44 am
#3664
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In my case (asia) atleast, only July and August are unavailable. June and Sept and onward are wide open.
Jun 23, 2019, 12:16 pm
#3665
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Many Star Alliance partners restrict award flights to their *A partners, keeping more awards for their own FF program members. If you have a M&M FF membership, availability TATL is a lot better than when checking for LH/LX award availability on UA's website.
Jun 23, 2019, 12:31 pm
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There is basically nothing available (even last minute the day before) from anywhere east coast to a hub in Europe. Sometimes I see LH release 1st class an hour before a departure which is impossible for me to do obviously. No economy either so I am thinking there is an IT issue, but not sure.
Jun 23, 2019, 12:56 pm
#3667
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There is basically nothing available (even last minute the day before) from anywhere east coast to a hub in Europe. Sometimes I see LH release 1st class an hour before a departure which is impossible for me to do obviously. No economy either so I am thinking there is an IT issue, but not sure.
Jun 23, 2019, 1:12 pm
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The "seats are sold" explanation is without merit. Take 6/24 (tomorrow as of this post) for example. Both FRA-LAX flights on LH (456&450) have at least 9 revenue seats available in business yet ZERO business awards available to *A partners. It's NEVER been like this.
Seems to be impacting LH/LX/OS/LO.
Seems to be impacting LH/LX/OS/LO.
Jun 23, 2019, 2:17 pm
#3669
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Just one more depreciation of Mileage Plus. Soon miles will be as useless as SWU. I have been looking for Award travel to Asia in January and February and there is nothing
Jun 23, 2019, 2:21 pm
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Jun 23, 2019, 3:21 pm
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Definitely some artifitial restrictions were put in place by carriers. There were numerous seats in april-may and then it completely dried up. I dont buy "seasonal demand" - business travel in summer is much slower. I suspect in summer they want to sell all seats at discounted business rates rather than opening award space while normally tgey price them higher without discounting and open unsold inventory for awards..
Jun 23, 2019, 3:41 pm
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one of these threads again. Just booked four *A I-class tickets TATL/TPAC last week. Plenty of availability.
Jun 23, 2019, 4:13 pm
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No idea what you're looking for but for example there's plenty of LH I space on BOS-FRA (i.e. all the 70k awards) for most of July:
Jun 23, 2019, 5:26 pm
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The "seats are sold" explanation is without merit. Take 6/24 (tomorrow as of this post) for example. Both FRA-LAX flights on LH (456&450) have at least 9 revenue seats available in business yet ZERO business awards available to *A partners. It's NEVER been like this.
Seems to be impacting LH/LX/OS/LO.
Seems to be impacting LH/LX/OS/LO.
I don't think the difference can be entirely explained by load factors or high season, either -- similar revenue bucket availability is corresponding to very different award availability than even 6-9 months ago.
Jun 23, 2019, 7:01 pm
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