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United website - Explore: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-business-class/p/1
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Only customers traveling in United Polaris business class or United Polaris Global First on international flights and customers in Star Alliance international first or business class cabins on flights longer than six hours will have access to the United Polaris Lounge.
Official Polaris Lounge Access Rules are here: Polaris Lounge Access Rules

United Polaris Business and Polaris First pax may access the Polaris lounge at connecting airports and their final destination within 24 hours of departure or arrival.

*A international J and F pax may only access the Polaris lounge at the departure airport. For purposes of Polaris lounge access, Canada, the Caribbean, Central America, and Guam are excluded from the definition of "international."

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Press release: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300278706.html

NEW YORK, June 2, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- With the aspiration of making weary business travel a relic of the past, United Airlines today unveiled its all-new United Polaris business class, the airline's most significant product transformation in more than a decade, featuring a reimagined, sleep-enhancing, departure-to-landing experience for intercontinental travelers.

Named after the North Star, United Polaris is the shining new star of business class travel that flyers can turn to for a tranquil and restful journey.

"United Polaris will change the game in international business travel with an exceptional level of relaxation and comfort throughout our customers' journeys," said Oscar Munoz, president and CEO of United. "This completely reconceived experience exemplifies the new spirit of United and the innovation, excitement and operational momentum across our airline."

Path-Breaking Design

In setting out to create a transformative business class experience, United chose to outfit its widebody fleet with a custom-designed, exclusive-to-United seat, rather than select an option already in the marketplace. Designed in partnership with Acumen Design Associates and PriestmanGoode and manufactured by Zodiac Seats United Kingdom, each United Polaris seat will offer direct access to the aisle, 180-degree flat-bed recline and up to 6 foot 6 inches of bed space.

Crafted as individual, forward-facing, suite-like pods, each customer's personal suite will feature a "Do Not Disturb" sign, mood lighting, one-touch lumbar support, several storage areas, multiple surfaces for simultaneous working and dining, a 16-inch high-definition entertainment screen and, for seats in the center of the cabin, electronic privacy dividers. Complementing the new seats, United and PriestmanGoode have also conceived an all-new look for the United Polaris cabins.

In rethinking the international business class experience, United conducted more than 12,000 hours of research, and sleep emerged as the single most important priority for international business class travelers. United Polaris' path-breaking design and sleep-enhancing focus was inspired and informed by insights from hundreds of customers and employees, inflight product simulations and more than 100 product evaluations.

Sleep-Enticing Amenities

In addition to the sleep-enticing United Polaris personal suites, several other amenities were designed with our customers' sleep in mind.

In a first-of-its-kind partnership, United has worked with leading luxury specialty store Saks Fifth Avenue for custom-designed bedding. All designed to provide the best sleep in the sky, the new bedding collection will feature plush duvets, lightweight day-blankets and a large and small pillow for each United Polaris customer. In addition, mattress cushions will be available upon request.

Slippers will be available on all flights, and customized United Polaris pajamas will be available by request on flights longer than 12 hours**. Flyers will also be able to request a gel-cooled pillow. New amenity kits will feature ergonomically designed eye shades, calming lavender pillow mist and additional products from Soho House & Co.'s Cowshed Spa.

With the introduction of United Polaris, the airline intends to donate tens of thousands of pillows, blankets and other inflight service items to Fisher House Foundation, which United and its employees have long supported.

Elevated Dining Experience

Upon boarding their flight, each United Polaris customer will be welcomed with a pre-departure beverage of his or her choice and gourmet chocolate. While in the air, customers will enjoy regionally influenced in-flight menus updated seasonally, developed in partnership with The Trotter Project and its critically recognized chefs, including Bill Kim of acclaimed Chicago restaurants Urbanbelly, bellyQ and Belly Shack.

The airline will offer an upgraded wine experience, with the highest-quality options curated exclusively by United's Master Sommelier. Inflight service will also include made-to-order signature ice cream sundaes, a dessert cart with a variety of petit dessert options, chocolate truffles and wine flights. On daytime flights longer than eight hours and on all flights longer than 12 hours, hot mid-flight snacks such as lobster macaroni and cheese will be available.

Raising The Bar With United Polaris Business Class Lounges

United will also open an exclusive portfolio of United Polaris business class lounges in nine locations around the world – the only lounge of its kind offered by a U.S. airline to business class customers – that will feature custom-designed chairs, private daybeds, spa-like showers and chef-inspired hot meals served in a boutique restaurant setting so customers can refresh and dine before boarding their planes. Premium sparkling wines and spirits, refreshing snacks and bottled water will also be offered.

The first new United Polaris lounge will open at Chicago O'Hare International Airport on Dec. 1, 2016. Lounges in eight other locations – Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, New York/Newark, Washington Dulles, Tokyo Narita, Hong Kong and London Heathrow – will follow in 2017.

United Polaris Introduction

United will begin to introduce United Polaris on Dec. 1, 2016, with the new inflight food and beverage experience, new custom bedding from Saks Fifth Avenue, new amenity kits and the new United Polaris lounge in Chicago. The United Polaris business class seat will first take flight in December on Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and subsequently on Boeing 787-10 and Airbus A350-1000 aircraft, as well as on Boeing 767-300 and 777-200 retrofits.

United Polaris will serve business class customers flying the U.S. airline industry's most global route network, reaching more than 330 destinations in more than 50 countries.

More information on the United Polaris business class can be found at united.com/Polaris.

[From [email][email protected] 11/15/2016]
Starting December 1, 2016, United Polaris Business Class service will replace United BusinessFirst service on international flights, and United Polaris Global First service will replace the current United Global First service.

Between 2017 to 2019 eight additional United Polaris lounges will open at EWR, HKG, IAD, IAH, LAX, LHR, NRT and SFO. We do not have the exact opening dates at this time. A scheduling announcement will be forthcoming.
** Flights with pajama service (for both directions)
SFO - ICN, PEK, PVG, HGH, XIV, TPE, AKL, HKG, CTU, SYD, TLV, SIN
EWR - NRT, PEK, DEL, BOM, HKG, PVG
ORD - NRT, PEK PVG, HKG
LAX - PVG, SYD, MEL, SIN
IAD - NRT, PEK
IAH - NRT, SYD
(from United Twitter feed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyjFHZLW...jpg&name=large

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Old Mar 25, 2018, 10:35 pm
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Could be wrong, but I don't recall UA committing that they would ever be refitted. The new 789s are still coming into the fleet with the B/E Diamond seat.
That's because the contract they had to supply the seats was written before they had planned for Polaris - and it would have cost them more money to switch out partway through.

Of course the 787's will get updated, but it probably won't be until their next heavy maintenance (or first maintenance, for that matter)
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
You didn't miss anything. United's 787 is a 2x2 configuration in business-class without direct access to the aisle...
Uhhh...4 of the 6 seats in each row have direct access to the aisle. The other two don't and two of the aisle-adjacent seats suffer the passage needs of the 2 window seat occupants.
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Old Mar 25, 2018, 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Uhhh...4 of the 6 seats in each row have direct access to the aisle. The other two don't and two of the aisle-adjacent seats suffer the passage needs of the 2 window seat occupants.
YUP!
Personally, I always book the middle on this common configuration.
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Old Mar 25, 2018, 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee

Also, note the CI seat was the Super Diamond, whereas AA uses the Cirrus.
American has the Cirrus and the Super Diamond - it depends which plane you're on.
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by SeattleDavid
American has the Cirrus and the Super Diamond - it depends which plane you're on.
Only AA's 77Ws have the Cirrus seats and the pmUS A332 and A333 have an earlier generation of the Cirrus reverse herringbone seats. The 772s are split between the motion over the ocean V3s or Super Diamond as AA fought with Zodiac and their inability to deliver what they had promised about a third of the way into the retrofit. The 788s were delivered with the Zodiac V3s and all the 789s have the Super Diamond as a result of the fight. 767s are the Thompson Vantage offset seats with small footwells and the 757s are identical to the DL and UA narrowbody 2-2 configuration
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Could be wrong, but I don't recall UA committing that they would ever be refitted. The new 789s are still coming into the fleet with the B/E Diamond seat.
I highly doubt UA would redo all birds except for the 788's, that makes no sense, so in 4-5 years the 788 will be the new Ghetto bird?
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse
I highly doubt UA would redo all birds except for the 788's, that makes no sense, so in 4-5 years the 788 will be the new Ghetto bird?
They are still taking brand new 789s with B/E Diamond seats. Could I see UA leaving those in for ten years? Yes.

I may be wrong but I simply don't recall seeing UA say anything about refitting 787s. That doesn't mean it won't eventually happen, but I'm not aware of any "schedule" to do that.
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
They are still taking brand new 789s with B/E Diamond seats. Could I see UA leaving those in for ten years? Yes.

I may be wrong but I simply don't recall seeing UA say anything about refitting 787s. That doesn't mean it won't eventually happen, but I'm not aware of any "schedule" to do that.
Yet another example of just how bad United's launch of Polaris has been. United should have launched Polaris when it took delivery of its first 787s.
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 1:46 pm
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I highly doubt UA would redo all birds except for the 788's, that makes no sense, so in 4-5 years the 788 will be the new Ghetto bird?
Yup
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Originally Posted by Kacee
They are still taking brand new 789s with B/E Diamond seats. Could I see UA leaving those in for ten years? Yes.

I may be wrong but I simply don't recall seeing UA say anything about refitting 787s. That doesn't mean it won't eventually happen, but I'm not aware of any "schedule" to do that.
Even if it required some recertification and a change order with Boeing, even if it creates 2 subfleets... I am perplexed that UA didn't make an effort to get the new seats into the 789 or most of the 789 deliveries. Instead they keep taking deliveries of an old seat. And based on past practice, they will keep that seat in service until it is either financially depreciated or mechanically obsolete before replacing it. That's the only reason they have kept 3-class F around, isn't it?

Polaris brand is a bit of an incoherent mess. The seat should be the one thing they focus on. Instead keep installing old seats while already devaluing the soft product. What does Polaris stand for?
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by seacarl
Even if it required some recertification and a change order with Boeing, even if it creates 2 subfleets... I am perplexed that UA didn't make an effort to get the new seats into the 789 or most of the 789 deliveries. Instead they keep taking deliveries of an old seat. And based on past practice, they will keep that seat in service until it is either financially depreciated or mechanically obsolete before replacing it. That's the only reason they have kept 3-class F around, isn't it?

Polaris brand is a bit of an incoherent mess. The seat should be the one thing they focus on. Instead keep installing old seats while already devaluing the soft product. What does Polaris stand for?
My understanding is that they were already under contract for the 787 seats. In addition, UA is deploying the 787 on many routes that either don't have a non-stop competitor or the competitor has a similar configuration (DEN-NRT, DEN-LHR (BA Club World), SFO-SIN). UA is deploying the 77W on routes with significant competention, they are not dumb.
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 4:18 pm
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Another point about 78Xs, is 67% of the seats are aisle access. That is higher than the 60% or 50% and less of much of the pre-polaris fleet. The 747s and sUA 777s had poor aisle access ratios (50%) and those needed to be handled first. The 76Xs were 60% and are part of the retrofit plans (3-class version first - the other target of the Polaris retrofit). The 78Xs at 67% may be less intolerable in the marketplace -- (only missing the window seat with aisle access customer)
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 4:27 pm
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It makes little sense to build a lounge in a terminal that may be replaced in a few years. That said, UA needs to figure out whether it's going to work with MWAA/IAD to develop a new terminal and, if not (or not soon), then build the Polaris Lounge for the next 10 years.
There are no plans to build a new terminal - the idea has been a non starter for management. IAD is already one of the costlier hubs for UA.

UA is doing a large renovation of staff spaces in the C/D concourses. The plans for the PL were waiting on airport approval, last I heard.
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by N104UA
My understanding is that they were already under contract for the 787 seats. In addition, UA is deploying the 787 on many routes that either don't have a non-stop competitor or the competitor has a similar configuration (DEN-NRT, DEN-LHR (BA Club World), SFO-SIN). UA is deploying the 77W on routes with significant competention, they are not dumb.
There is no way United's offering is "similar" to Singapore's offering between SFO-SIN.
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
The 78Xs at 67% may be less intolerable in the marketplace -- (only missing the window seat with aisle access customer)
Yes it is certainly better than the 8 across 772. But still a generation behind.

Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
There is no way United's offering is "similar" to Singapore's offering between SFO-SIN.
Agreed. While not everyone loves the J seat on the SQ350, it is true 1-2-1 and of course SQ soft product.
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