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*** Email 7/30/19 - EWR-DEL/BOM nonstops resume September 6th.***

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Older Updates -- DEL "Cancellations" extended thru end of July 2019 (although Travel Alerts still refers to July 2)

Was "announced" in the Q1 earnings conference call today this would be extended to 2 July 2019, the data in "Travel waivers" has not been updated.

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DEL service suspended until July
Due to seasonal winds and the continued closure of Pakistani airspace, we’re currently unable to operate our flights between New York/Newark (EWR) and New Delhi (DEL) while meeting crew flying time requirements. Beginning April 5, in order to minimize the inconveniences for our customers, we will suspend the service until July 2 for eastbound flights and July 3 for westbound flights. We’ll continue to closely monitor this situation and remain in contact with U.S. government authorities and our international partners. We’re also reaching out directly to our customers booked on these flights to provide alternative travel options, including rebooking on other airlines or offering full refunds. We will continue to operate our nonstop flights from New York/Newark to Mumbai (BOM).

India/Pakistan 2019 conflict impacts UA to India,DEL suspended 5 Apr 19 until 5 Sept?

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Feb 27, 2019, 11:25 am

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Can you share the source of "two Indian jets shot down "...presumably IAF ?

Yes, military planes. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-47383889

Feb 27, 2019, 11:26 am

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Can you share the source of "two Indian jets shot down "...presumably IAF ?

Pakistan claims two IAF fighters down; India acknowledges loss of one aircraft and claims to have shot down a Pakistani aircraft. It's all a mess: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/w...-aircraft.html

Feb 27, 2019, 11:26 am

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Here's the flightaware for UA48 - quite dramatic:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL48

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Feb 27, 2019, 11:39 am

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Originally Posted by HMPS

Can you share the source of "two Indian jets shot down "...presumably IAF ?

Yes, military planes. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-47383889

There are plenty of established news sources covering these recent events

And there are a couple of FT threads to discuss the issues related to these events
Renewed hostilities between India and Pakistan
Pakistan vs India tension again

And threads for other carriers, such as
Extended BA flight times due to conflict avoidance [Pakistan airspace closure]
Thai suspends Thailand-Europe flights temporarily

Destination forums
AFPAK air space closed effective 27FEB2019
Renewed hostilities between India and Pakistan

So, just a reminder, we will focus in the UA forum just on the aspects of how this impacts the UA traveler and how UA is handling the situation

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Feb 27, 2019, 11:43 am

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Given the hostilities, I really wouldn't want to fly over Indian airspace right now either.

Feb 27, 2019, 11:50 am

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The new routing has the airplane in Frankfurt and also tonight's Newark flight (scheduled now to stop in Stockholm to refuel presumably), overfly Russia all the way to Irkutsk/ Baikal, then turn south-southwest over Mongolia and China, crossing into India at the India/ Nepalese/ Chinese border. Wild routing. Lots of interesting territory not on any usual transatlantic flight plan.

Feb 27, 2019, 11:50 am

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... Might be quicker to route via Narita looking at the distance.

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Feb 27, 2019, 12:01 pm

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... Might be quicker to route via Narita looking at the distance.

gcmap seems to suggest that could be about 900sm longer.

Feb 27, 2019, 12:02 pm

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I’d say at least 1/3 of the passengers did not have eu Visa upon landing in Fra, just based on how they made everyone cue up.

For those w/o it seems UA booked anyone who they couldn’t get out today in a hotel room in the transit area. Definitely none of those unlucky passengers were allowed to leave the secured terminal they brought us to (b side) Shengen

Those on UA82 diverted to LHR would have fared better. The UK authorities grant transit without visa (land side) to those with US Visas or Green Card holders flying from the US. They would have made it land side for one night while UA rebooked them using one of the many non stop or one stop routes to DEL.

Feb 27, 2019, 12:06 pm

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Here's the flightaware for UA48 - quite dramatic:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL48

AC42 - 14.5 hour flight to nowhere
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA42

Feb 27, 2019, 12:10 pm

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Is there one in the transit area? The only hotels connected to the FRA airport that I am aware of are the Sheraton, the Hilton and the Hilton Garden Inn. And they are all land-side.

answer: yes. https://www.mycloud.de/de/startseite/

Feb 27, 2019, 12:17 pm

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Looks like they're currently planning to try again tomorrow with the BOM flight:

Code:

0048/26FEB
P EWR/OUT    816P  L00.06  ☨
P EWR/OFF    851P
P FRA/ON    1256P
P FRA/IN     105P
F FRA/ETD    930A
P BOM/ETA    931P  L21.45 ARRIVING ON 28FEB
F BOM/ETA    931P  E00.09
D FCF/NOW DEPARTING AT 930AM ON 28FEB

...but no dice on DEL:

Code:

0082/26FEB
P EWR/OUT    908P  L00.08  ☨
P EWR/OFF    942P
P LHR/ON    1214P
P LHR/IN    1222P
F LHR/ETD   1254P
N DEL/LX
D FCF/DVRT  LHR ENRT EWR-DEL A/AIRCRAFT CLEANING

I assume a lot of this is being played by ear though.