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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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This is the archive thread, the active thread is Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic (How to use, will it clear?, issues w/flight credit,...)

For general information on upgrading ANA or Lufthansa flights with a GPU, see Upgrading Flights Operated by ANA or Lufthansa. You actually request the upgrade through the online form, here: Request a GPU for a Select Partner Airline.

Per United web support, you only need to fill in the required* info.

**The LH flight you are upgrading must be an LH flight, not a UA codeshare flight. If you have a UA codeshare flight, you can call websupport and they will (put you on hold and] change your itinerary to one with an LH flight#.

Note that UA websupport might give you a new ticket # when you do the above, but if the original ticket # was 016 UA stock, it will remain so, and thus you will still be earning RDMs at the UA rate (11x for a 1K), not the *A rate. In case of a $6000 biz fare for LAX-FRA that you are trying to upgrade to F for example, as a 1K you would earn 66,000 UA RDM if booked as a UA flight. And even though after booking you get them to change the UA flight # from a UA codeshare flight to an LH flight, the 016 ticket stock sticks, and you earn 66,000 RDMs.

(FYI, had the ticket stock been an LH stock, the RDM's earned would be 5790 miles x 150% = 8685 RDMs. Big difference)

Note that sometimes the online upgrading does not work, and you may get an error message to call an 877 number, which is now defunct but still resides on .bomb...Ignore it and just call web support. They might put you on hold while they call LH but they will get the job done.

Eligible Economy Fares to Apply a GPU

Upgradeable to business fares include U/H/Q the lowest eligible economy fares. G&E the two top premium economy fares and Y/B/M the most expensive economy fares. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24219165-post205.html)
While UA has not changed their T&Cs, LH appears to have expanded the potential fare classes
Originally Posted by oliver2002
For C->F upgrade, J, D, C fares are eligible, Z and P fares are not.
Originally Posted by andywaw
Effective April 20th, 2018, all Lufthansa revenue Business Class fares, including P and Z, are eligible to be upgraded to First Class using miles or eVouchers. ...
LH booking class P, Z upgreadable for miles and eVouchers
Appears this also applies to use of UA GPUs IF booked as native flight number on LH or UA ticket stock.
Presently UA is not converting codeshare to native flight numbers, as required for this process, if P or Z fare
From April to September 2018 it was possible to confirm and waitlist P ,Z-class LH flights with a GPU. Confirming and waitlisting is no now longer possible, but previously waitlisted segments will continue to clear as/if available.

Checking for Upgrade Availability

Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24861289-post342.html)

In case of upgrade clearing but eticket refresh problems:

Originally Posted by oliver2002
Both longhaul LH segments cleared into I after being on waitlist . The first didnt get stickered, so the DCS ( amadeus altea ) rejected online and agent checkin . The eticket helpdesk had to manually update the first coupon for the DCS to accept the coupon. My seat in C was safe, since the PNR was updated correctly, just the ticket was not updated completely to the satisfaction of the DCS. Everyone looking at the booking agreed the upgrade was legit, so you will not be denied boarding or downgraded, just budget enough time
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH GA must have called the eticket helpdesk and pointed out the * SSR remark in your reservation that shows an upgrade was applied and the e-ticket just needed a fix/sticker. See my experience above.
Checking for availability prior to calling
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too.
Use ANA or even united.com to see availability.

To check if C/F upgrades may open up, ask in this thread: Determining LH Y/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

Regarding ticket stock, Oliver reports:
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Any ticket stock will do.
Each LH flight segment requires a separate GPU
A single GPU can be used to only upgrade a single LH flight segment, And that GPU cannot be extended to include another LH flight segment or another UA flight segment.


Problems getting mileage credit for upgraded LH segments

Numerous reports of denial of mileage credits (RDMs, PQMs, PQSs, PQDs) for upgraded tickets. This issue is probably due to LH uses the same fare bucket for mileage awards and upgrades. It seems patience, persistence, and documentation of the originally paid fare are needed to get credit.

You probably won't get credit by simply submitting the online form or asking a CSR to do so for you. A CSR needs to submit a System Issue Form, together with the mileage request, explaining that you flew in I class, but you paid for a mileage-earning booking class.

T-10

While the original system did not allow the upgrade waitlist to carry on past t-10 hours, the have been multiple reports that this is no longer the case. If not cleared in advance - the upgrade wait-list will last all the way until the door closing. UA has not updated the text on the LH GPU upgrades to reflect this change.

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Old Dec 1, 2017, 5:29 am
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GPU Cleared D to O

My GPU just cleared on 29 Nov for flight on 14 Dec, LH452 MUC-LAX, D to O, F availability is showing 2 places. Awesome
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Hugo OZ
My GPU just cleared on 29 Nov for flight on 14 Dec, LH452 MUC-LAX, D to O, F availability is showing 2 places. Awesome
10/10 cleared for me this year C --> O on LH. It is by far the best way to use GPUs
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 8:09 pm
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Anybody know if GPUs can be used on "Lufthansa Cityline" flights? I am looking at a FRA-TPA flight.
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by TomMM
Anybody know if GPUs can be used on "Lufthansa Cityline" flights? I am looking at a FRA-TPA flight.
Yes they are considered regular LH flights in terms of UA mileage redemption, accruals, and upgrades.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by jmanirish
Still a month out so anything could happen, but it’s F6A4 so decent chance.
Cleared yesterday, 14 days out - not bad!
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by st530
Cleared yesterday, 14 days out - not bad!
Awesome! Man I'm excited for you and jealous I'm not the one traveling
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 8:17 am
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I have a flight on January 10 that is showing O2, but when I request the upgrade from D on the United site I get that it will be waitlisted. Can anyone think why this would be? In previous cases where O > 0 it has always clearance instantly
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 8:59 am
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Data point from the past week. GPU on a FRA-XXX Q to I upgrade. Didn't clear at T-10. Went to the lounge, agent said "1 seat left...so far it's got your name on it, but need to wait a little closer to departure." At T-1 hour, she cleared it and I grabbed the last seat. This is an example of a GPU redeemed within T-10.
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by DBCme
Data point from the past week. GPU on a FRA-XXX Q to I upgrade. Didn't clear at T-10. Went to the lounge, agent said "1 seat left...so far it's got your name on it, but need to wait a little closer to departure." At T-1 hour, she cleared it and I grabbed the last seat. This is an example of a GPU redeemed within T-10.
I've had a few of those as well, J to O and D to O - all inside two hours. In both cases, I went to the F lounge in FRA, and they called the gate to get it processed.
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Old Dec 28, 2017, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
I have a flight on January 10 that is showing O2, but when I request the upgrade from D on the United site I get that it will be waitlisted. Can anyone think why this would be? In previous cases where O > 0 it has always clearance instantly
I have seen this before and it then cleared over night.
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Old Jan 9, 2018, 9:31 am
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How does one 'force' UA's website to show a H,Q,etc fare class when booking on it and wanting to specifically book into that fare class for the purpose of using a GPU?

When I try forcing it, I get "fare class not available" despite it having valid numbers on expert mode for the lufthansa segments. If I don't force it, my "economy flexible" is the U fare. The displayed "economy" fare is W. Can I get something in the middle? Or is the U fare the 'lowest' GPU fare available right now?
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Old Jan 9, 2018, 11:56 am
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you would have to call them and purchase the ticket via phone, here you can basically select any fare that is available. be aware though that they will charge you with extra costs if you do so
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Old Jan 9, 2018, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by schlang
you would have to call them and purchase the ticket via phone, here you can basically select any fare that is available. be aware though that they will charge you with extra costs if you do so
By ‘them’ are you referring to UA? They would charge me to do something that I can’t do on the web? I thought fee’s like those were waived...
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Old Jan 9, 2018, 12:11 pm
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afair there is a fee if you buy a ticket on the phone. for both UA and LH this is the only way I'm aware of where you can select the fare class by yourself
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Old Jan 9, 2018, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by laxmillenial
How does one 'force' UA's website to show a H,Q,etc fare class when booking on it and wanting to specifically book into that fare class for the purpose of using a GPU?
Did you try listing every valid fare code? If you just put in Q and there's no Q fare filed, it wouldn't return any results. I just did a search with B, H, M, Q, U, Y and it seemed to work fine.
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