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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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This is the archive thread, the active thread is Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic (How to use, will it clear?, issues w/flight credit,...)

For general information on upgrading ANA or Lufthansa flights with a GPU, see Upgrading Flights Operated by ANA or Lufthansa. You actually request the upgrade through the online form, here: Request a GPU for a Select Partner Airline.

Per United web support, you only need to fill in the required* info.

**The LH flight you are upgrading must be an LH flight, not a UA codeshare flight. If you have a UA codeshare flight, you can call websupport and they will (put you on hold and] change your itinerary to one with an LH flight#.

Note that UA websupport might give you a new ticket # when you do the above, but if the original ticket # was 016 UA stock, it will remain so, and thus you will still be earning RDMs at the UA rate (11x for a 1K), not the *A rate. In case of a $6000 biz fare for LAX-FRA that you are trying to upgrade to F for example, as a 1K you would earn 66,000 UA RDM if booked as a UA flight. And even though after booking you get them to change the UA flight # from a UA codeshare flight to an LH flight, the 016 ticket stock sticks, and you earn 66,000 RDMs.

(FYI, had the ticket stock been an LH stock, the RDM's earned would be 5790 miles x 150% = 8685 RDMs. Big difference)

Note that sometimes the online upgrading does not work, and you may get an error message to call an 877 number, which is now defunct but still resides on .bomb...Ignore it and just call web support. They might put you on hold while they call LH but they will get the job done.

Eligible Economy Fares to Apply a GPU

Upgradeable to business fares include U/H/Q the lowest eligible economy fares. G&E the two top premium economy fares and Y/B/M the most expensive economy fares. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24219165-post205.html)
While UA has not changed their T&Cs, LH appears to have expanded the potential fare classes
Originally Posted by oliver2002
For C->F upgrade, J, D, C fares are eligible, Z and P fares are not.
Originally Posted by andywaw
Effective April 20th, 2018, all Lufthansa revenue Business Class fares, including P and Z, are eligible to be upgraded to First Class using miles or eVouchers. ...
LH booking class P, Z upgreadable for miles and eVouchers
Appears this also applies to use of UA GPUs IF booked as native flight number on LH or UA ticket stock.
Presently UA is not converting codeshare to native flight numbers, as required for this process, if P or Z fare
From April to September 2018 it was possible to confirm and waitlist P ,Z-class LH flights with a GPU. Confirming and waitlisting is no now longer possible, but previously waitlisted segments will continue to clear as/if available.

Checking for Upgrade Availability

Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24861289-post342.html)

In case of upgrade clearing but eticket refresh problems:

Originally Posted by oliver2002
Both longhaul LH segments cleared into I after being on waitlist . The first didnt get stickered, so the DCS ( amadeus altea ) rejected online and agent checkin . The eticket helpdesk had to manually update the first coupon for the DCS to accept the coupon. My seat in C was safe, since the PNR was updated correctly, just the ticket was not updated completely to the satisfaction of the DCS. Everyone looking at the booking agreed the upgrade was legit, so you will not be denied boarding or downgraded, just budget enough time
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH GA must have called the eticket helpdesk and pointed out the * SSR remark in your reservation that shows an upgrade was applied and the e-ticket just needed a fix/sticker. See my experience above.
Checking for availability prior to calling
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too.
Use ANA or even united.com to see availability.

To check if C/F upgrades may open up, ask in this thread: Determining LH Y/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

Regarding ticket stock, Oliver reports:
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Any ticket stock will do.
Each LH flight segment requires a separate GPU
A single GPU can be used to only upgrade a single LH flight segment, And that GPU cannot be extended to include another LH flight segment or another UA flight segment.


Problems getting mileage credit for upgraded LH segments

Numerous reports of denial of mileage credits (RDMs, PQMs, PQSs, PQDs) for upgraded tickets. This issue is probably due to LH uses the same fare bucket for mileage awards and upgrades. It seems patience, persistence, and documentation of the originally paid fare are needed to get credit.

You probably won't get credit by simply submitting the online form or asking a CSR to do so for you. A CSR needs to submit a System Issue Form, together with the mileage request, explaining that you flew in I class, but you paid for a mileage-earning booking class.

T-10

While the original system did not allow the upgrade waitlist to carry on past t-10 hours, the have been multiple reports that this is no longer the case. If not cleared in advance - the upgrade wait-list will last all the way until the door closing. UA has not updated the text on the LH GPU upgrades to reflect this change.

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Old Jun 3, 2017, 6:37 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades and awards both come from I, but availability is different based on which office requests it and for what purpose (upgrade or award).
It must also depend on the route / married segments. Just yesterday, I booked two I awards on EWR-FRA-XXX with plentiful availability, but no awards were available for EWR-FRA (without the onward connection). I applied the GPU to the EWR-FRA segment on a third, revenue ticket, but it did not clear and went to the waitlist.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 5:45 pm
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Upgrading Lufthansa Premium Economy with United GPU

For some reason, United does not allow GPU upgrades for Lufthansa Premium Economy flights (class N). Which is extremely weird, as cheaper classes can be upgraded. I contacted United, but their representative could not help.

Anybody was lucky with these upgrades?
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 6:05 pm
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Unfortunately PremY is not yet standardized across airlines the way F/C/Y are so things like upgrades and awards don't always work across partners.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 7:23 pm
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This sucks...I have quite a few GPUs I rotting in my account for almost a year already...
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 7:47 pm
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Well, if the confirmed upgrade space is available then you could book the cheaper fare and snag it. But when wait-listing you have to decide if it is worth the risk of not clearing.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 11:40 pm
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It's exactly the same as discount business fares. Also P and Z fares can't be upgraded, same as N since it's discount premium economy.

B, C, D, E, G, H, J, M, Q, U and Y are the eligible fare classes to upgrade, so as you see, the standard premium economy (G and E) fares are ok, just as the standard business (C, D, and J) fares are ok.
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Old Jun 4, 2017, 1:41 am
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Yes MSC applies. So SIN-FRA-WAW may clear even though SIN-FRA is not available. See examples here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...-merged-q.html
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Old Jun 4, 2017, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by sbm12
Well, if the confirmed upgrade space is available
How exactly can I do this, when I book Lufthansa flight and plan to use United GPU?
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Old Jun 4, 2017, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by gruimed
Which is extremely weird, as cheaper classes can be upgraded.
Not really. The cheapest GPU upgradeable economy fare on LH is a Q, which is same general ballpark as the N.

The fare structure may not fit your buying patterns, but it is logical from LH's perspective. They don't want to allow upgrades on their deep discount tickets.
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Old Jun 4, 2017, 10:35 pm
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Originally Posted by gruimed
For some reason, United does not allow GPU upgrades for Lufthansa Premium Economy flights (class N). ....
That is a LH decision, not UA.

Originally Posted by gruimed
How exactly can I do this, when I book Lufthansa flight and plan to use United GPU?
See this thread's wiki
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Old Jun 6, 2017, 12:56 pm
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Also worth considering if you can't clear an upgrade at booking, I am a fan of booking LH E class (premium economy) and applying a GPU. Seems to have a high success rate on LH and even if it doesn't clear you're in a halfway decent cabin.

Might not be an acceptable price though.
Reporting back. In the end I bought a one way SFO-FRA-DXB U class ticket for the 2pm Sunday July on UA and applied a GPU. I would have preferred the 7pm flight because of R availability and time of day, but that did not allow connection in FRA. Anyway, the GPU cleared today 5 weeks ahead. So a good result.

On the E class ticket. I have done this before on LH SFO-FRA-JNB return. $2100 for ticket, great price. All cleared. The upgrade on JNB to FRA cleared at the gate (which I thought was not supposed to happen), but the GA said not to worry he was watching me. In this case An E class seat was prohibitively expensive.

Flying home Etihad first class, just to try the experience,
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 3:42 pm
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Question: How do GPUs compete against plusgrade bid upgrades?
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Old Jun 17, 2017, 11:28 pm
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Originally Posted by gruimed
This sucks...I have quite a few GPUs I rotting in my account for almost a year already...
I'll happily take them. I've used all 8 of mine this year already for D to F and J to F upgrades on LH
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 1:08 am
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Incorrect LH Posting

A B fare segment that I flew on LH seems to have posted to my MileagePlus account as an M fare. How do I get United and Lufthansa to correct this issue? FWIW, the segment was upgraded with a GPU.
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by sannmann
A B fare segment that I flew on LH seems to have posted to my MileagePlus account as an M fare. How do I get United and Lufthansa to correct this issue? FWIW, the segment was upgraded with a GPU.
this should have been posted in the LH GPU thread.
Common issue. Email the original ticket info to MP and explain you used a GPU. If a 016 ticket it is an easy fix. Even on 220 tickets it can be fixed, but UA might need to check w/ LH to verify.
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