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UA Insider Dec 10, 2014 7:35 am

Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic {Archive}
 
Hi everyone,

Last year, we indicated that we were working to make electronic the paper-based process to request Global Premier Upgrades on flights operated by Lufthansa. Today we are launching a new online portal for these upgrades on most Lufthansa flights, which enables customers to request and confirm GPUs as early as time of ticketing.

You can find complete information on the Lufthansa GPU page on united.com, but here are some brief highlights about the transition to the new process:
  • Lufthansa GPU requests will be electronic: No more paper certificates. Starting today, you may go to the Lufthansa GPU page on united.com to learn more about the process and link to an online portal where you can request your upgrade. The request may be made as soon as your ticket is issued, up to 10 hours before flight departure.
  • Please note: The online process works for flights marketed with a Lufthansa flight number (e.g. LH431). For codeshare flights marketed by United (e.g. UA8837, operated by Lufthansa), please contact the MileagePlus Service Center to make the request, rather than going online.
  • Paper certificates remain valid for a very limited time: Lufthansa will retain limited capability to accept paper certificates for flights through January 31, 2015. However, acceptance is at Lufthansa’s discretion and may vary based on station capability, so we highly recommend you convert to the online process as soon as possible. If you currently have paper certificates already issued for future flights, please mail them back to using the return address on the front of the certificate, with a request that they be re-deposited to your account for future use. After today, we will no longer issue paper certificates.

  • Lufthansa handles clearance priority: Your request may be confirmed instantly if upgrade seats are available. If upgrade seats are not available, you may choose to be placed on Lufthansa’s internal upgrade waitlist.
  • Please note: Currently, waitlist requests will remain valid until 10 hours before departure. If Lufthansa does not clear your upgrade request by this time, we will automatically re-deposit the GPU into your account.
Please visit the updated Lufthansa GPU page on united.com for full details, terms and conditions. Gute Reise!

-UA Insider

UA-NYC Dec 10, 2014 7:39 am

Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic {Archive}
 
So....do we have visibility into the LH UG buckets? Are they I (biz) and O (first) or something else?

Wonder if this will be a crap shoot...if we can't see the buckets ahead of the requests, I see a lot of flyers booking, checking, and canceling w/in 24 hours if not confirmed.

IADFlyer123 Dec 10, 2014 7:40 am

Per this page, the non-eligible fare classes are: L, T, X, I, R, N, S, W, Z, P, K, O, ID, AD, IP and V. Looks like they subtly made the change and now Q and above is only eligible for GPU Upgrades!!!

denuaflier Dec 10, 2014 7:44 am

Good news overall and solves the problem of day of departure scrambling.

Condition One Dec 10, 2014 7:44 am

N (non-eligible) is the lowest Premium Economy fare. That's a bummer.

UA-NYC Dec 10, 2014 7:56 am


Originally Posted by denuaflier (Post 23973378)
Good news overall and solves the problem of day of departure scrambling.

Unless upgrade seats are held until the gate, in which case any pending upgrades go unfulfilled

tods27 Dec 10, 2014 8:06 am


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 23973441)
Unless upgrade seats are held until the gate, in which case any pending upgrades go unfulfilled

The wording doesn't seem to indicate if you would be able to waitlist GPUs or if they will still work the same as always (either confirm or re-request at a later date). If waitlist is possible, you won't have to wait until the gate.

I'm going to assume that this will work the same way - with no waitlist.

appenzeller Dec 10, 2014 8:09 am

the page states:

...in order to upgrade from Lufthansa Economy or Business Class to the next higher cabin.

If they consider Premium Economy the next higher cabin, then GPU's have just been downgraded a lot.....:(

UA-NYC Dec 10, 2014 8:11 am


Originally Posted by tods27 (Post 23973510)
The wording doesn't seem to indicate if you would be able to waitlist GPUs or if they will still work the same as always (either confirm or re-request at a later date). If waitlist is possible, you won't have to wait until the gate.

I'm going to assume that this will work the same way - with no waitlist.

:confused: Both are right in UAI's post - yes you can waitlist; but if they don't clear by T-10 hours, they basically expire and you're SOL

Kacee Dec 10, 2014 8:18 am

This is an improvement in the process but a massive downgrade overall.

1. No waitlisting at the gate. If you haven't cleared at 10 hours, you don't get an upgrade.
2. No longer eligible on V fares. That can be a very big jump from V to Q.
3. It appears that on aircrafts with PE, you upgrade to PE, not business (although this has yet to be confirmed).

Yet another MP downgrade.

PV_Premier Dec 10, 2014 8:22 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 23973583)
This is an improvement in the process but a massive downgrade overall.

1. No waitlisting at the gate. If you haven't cleared at 10 hours, you don't get an upgrade.
2. No longer eligible on V fares. That can be a very big jump from V to Q.
3. It appears that on aircrafts with PE, you upgrade to PE, not business (although this has yet to be confirmed).

Yet another MP downgrade.

Jeff giveth, and Jeff taketh away. :rolleyes:

spearsba Dec 10, 2014 8:22 am

How funny, I called for a paper GPU last week, it arrived yesterday. The agent I spoke with said they had no idea when or if this electronic system would happen. It appears that United does not keep their employees, who are supposed to provide customer service, informed. I'll mail it back and try the electronic UG. Will have to call in because its a code share.

The fact that the UG list expires at T-10 hours to flight blows. Unless they plan on clearing the list at T-10 giving out all the remaining UG seats. I don't think LH tries to upsell UGs the way UA does at check in.


Originally Posted by UA Insider (Post 23973332)
[*]Please note: The online process works for flights marketed with a Lufthansa flight number (e.g. LH431). For codeshare flights marketed by United (e.g. UA8837, operated by Lufthansa), please contact the MileagePlus Service Center to make the request, rather than going online.[/LIST][/INDENT]
-UA Insider

When I ticket next week and call in for this, what are the odds the agent has no idea what I am talking about?

Singapore_Schwing Dec 10, 2014 8:30 am

Funny that GPU requests must be made (unless R is available at the moment) at least 24 hours ahead on united, but only 10 hours ahead on Lufthansa.

OK, not funny. Kinda sad.

PushingTin Dec 10, 2014 8:33 am

You expected UA to make is easier to take LH flights????

So, if I don't clear at t-10, can I then, before I check-in try to do a SDC to UA metal that I might upgrade on? Can I do it after I check in?

Just when I thought the LH DEN-FRA flight was going to be my 'ticket', they make me buy more expensive fares and looks like for a lesser upgrade- on just one flight not a trip.

The more I see, the more I think either UA and LH hate each other or together they hate UA fliers that have the audacity to buy Y fares.

When will I be able to buy UA codes for LH metal and pick my seats?

PV_Premier Dec 10, 2014 8:36 am


Originally Posted by spearsba (Post 23973608)
How funny, I called for a paper GPU last week, it arrived yesterday. The agent I spoke with said they had no idea when or if this electronic system would happen. It appears that United does not keep their employees, who are supposed to provide customer service, informed. I'll mail it back and try the electronic UG. Will have to call in because its a code share.

The fact that the UG list expires at T-10 hours to flight blows. Unless they plan on clearing the list at T-10 giving out all the remaining UG seats. I don't think LH tries to upsell UGs the way UA does at check in.

if they clear the list at T-10 this will be bad for short notice award inventory but very good for GPU redemptions, particularly to F.


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