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bluedemon211 Feb 13, 2018 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by Aussienarelle (Post 29411960)
Are the catering issues also impacting international flights? I have a flight on May 16 DEN-LHR. The upgrade came through so I am in J. Although am hoping since it is four months away they are able to fix the catering issues (if they impact international flights).

NRT and LHR not effected. Catering done prior to arrival in Denver

Two Bee Feb 13, 2018 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by Plane-is-home (Post 29412376)
Over 4 months ago they told us "a couple of days" you can extrapolate from there.

If one isn't into extrapolating, he can just dream about the good ol' days, and if that doesn't do the trick just pull out a stinky McDonalds like the BG-5 folks do. They don't seem to have as BIG a problem with the catering as other do. :rolleyes:

NoLaGent Feb 13, 2018 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by Two Bee (Post 29412435)
If one isn't into extrapolating, he can just dream about the good ol' days, and if that doesn't do the trick just pull out a stinky McDonalds like the BG-5 folks do. They don't seem to have as BIG a problem with the catering as other do. :rolleyes:

Although equating BG-5 as strictly a McDonald's eating crowd comes off as incredibly classist, I'm sure that's not what you meant...

My last flight in Y from DIA my seat mates were wise enough to stop at Elway's and get a wagyu burger and a prime rib sandwich to go.

mander Feb 13, 2018 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by NoLaGent (Post 29412750)
Although equating BG-5 as strictly a McDonald's eating crowd comes off as incredibly classist, I'm sure that's not what you meant...

My last flight in Y from DIA my seat mates were wise enough to stop at Elway's and get a wagyu burger and a prime rib sandwich to go.

That waygu burger is tasty!

danielonn Feb 14, 2018 4:25 am

Just go to Luthansa or Swiss Air and cater a F meal!

jm0933 Feb 14, 2018 5:30 am


Originally Posted by mrswirl (Post 29410329)
I think it partially depends on the equipment. I was on 787 from DEN-IAD yesterday and dinner was either beef tips with macaroni or polenta and lentils. Came with plated cheesecake dessert and pathetic pineapple cup. No fresh veggies but a definite improvement over the wretched pizza or BoB cheesburger.

I'm not sure, I was on an A319 from DEN-ORD toward the end of December and I had the beef tips with macaroni option. Seems like it might just be luck, or maybe they preferentially stock the real meals on flights to other hubs?

DENflyer3 Feb 14, 2018 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by mander (Post 29412777)
That waygu burger is tasty!

You were not headed to IAD on that last flight were you? That was our exact take out order last week. I all but gave up on food on an airline a couple years ago, so I almost always order Elways to go if I'm short on time, I have it timed out that I put the order in just before I hit the parking garage and it is almost timed perfectly to be ready right when I get there. Very good in a pinch, but I still prefer to sit down at the bar and have a nice martini or two before I fly.

david_oz Feb 14, 2018 7:59 pm

Anybody know when Smashburger is opening?? If they are going to cater burgers they might as well make them delicious!

GMoneyCO Feb 15, 2018 5:32 am

I was on a DEN --> PHL flight last night and had one of the undressed burgers as well. I'll report back once I hear from 1K Voice.

exerda Feb 15, 2018 8:42 am


Originally Posted by NoLaGent (Post 29411673)
1. Yes, you are correct. They were throwing ETCs at the problem for a couple of months, but that practice seems to have stopped. YMMV.

2. If you're lucky, beef tips with macaroni or polenta with lentils. Plated cheesecake. Pineapple fruit cup.
More commonly, a Y class burger without any lettuce, tomato or onion, or alternately, the Y class pizza, both of these from the BOB menu.

FWIW, I wrote in and got an ETC in mid-January once I realized the issue was systematic (had missed this thread originally). $125 IIRC.

But they weren't automatically handing them out, nor were they offering other fresh items from the back IIRC.

EWR764 Feb 15, 2018 9:24 am


Originally Posted by jm0933 (Post 29414975)
I'm not sure, I was on an A319 from DEN-ORD toward the end of December and I had the beef tips with macaroni option. Seems like it might just be luck, or maybe they preferentially stock the real meals on flights to other hubs?

That's the standard hot dinner service ex-DEN now.

FlyfromDenver Feb 15, 2018 11:45 am


Originally Posted by david_oz (Post 29418198)
Anybody know when Smashburger is opening?? If they are going to cater burgers they might as well make them delicious!

You made me look(partly because the coming soon sign seems to have been on B Concourse forever) only to find out one is open on the C Concourse now. But if I am going to C, I'm hitting the Timberline.

P.S. In general, to me the issue is less about the food and totally about communication.

chermorg Feb 15, 2018 12:26 pm

It has likely been considered already... but could someone give me the info on the following?

People continually bring up DL/AA handling the Gate Gourmet issue in LAX as reference for how UA is messing this up. LAX has multiple large scale caterers to my knowledge. Am I incorrect in this?

DEN, being a very large UA presence, and smaller but substantial F9 and WN presences, do they have another catering company that could pick up the slack? Granted, UA could likely pre-cater certain flights in other hubs (which to my understanding they are doing as able, especially with the international flights), however, my question here is as to the practicability of them just up and getting a new caterer at DEN.

EWR764 Feb 15, 2018 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by chermorg (Post 29420794)
People continually bring up DL/AA handling the Gate Gourmet issue in LAX as reference for how UA is messing this up. LAX has multiple large scale caterers to my knowledge. Am I incorrect in this?

LSG and Gategourmet have kitchens at DEN, and Gategourmet previously supported the UA operation before Chelsea was expanded, so I'm sure something could be arranged. The current Chelsea issues are now construction-related, as I understand, and are not directly connected to the Journey Cuisine listeria contamination from the fall.

chermorg Feb 15, 2018 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by EWR764 (Post 29420822)
LSG and Gategourmet have kitchens at DEN, and Gategourmet previously supported the UA operation before Chelsea was expanded, so I'm sure something could be arranged. The current Chelsea issues are now construction-related, as I understand, and are not directly connected to the Journey Cuisine listeria contamination from the fall.

Having a kitchen is nice and I fully understand that even some outstations have multiple caterers on-site. The issue is trying to cater an extremely large domestic operation, including UX flights, from one of those kitchens. Does Gate Gourmet still have the staffing, facilities, certifications, and logistics necessary to resume supporting the UA operation? Is it possible that the construction issues were supposed to be resolved in a timeframe that GG/LSG could not upkick operations in to make it worth taking out another contract, but have been delayed? Should UA take out a contract with a company that may or may not be able to scale to the UA operation, making quality and consistency an issue, when their current contract may resume operations within the next couple weeks?

At LAX, when DL and AA had issues, DL switched kitchens, and AA relied on other airports when possible with some minor use of other kitchens for international flights. To me, one of the reasons that's possible is that all airlines have a decent presence at LAX, as well as many, many international airlines - all of which can support a larger variety and staffing in kitchens. I am unsure if DEN has the logistics to support a change in the catering for UAs entire operation.


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