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Old Sep 26, 2017, 7:17 pm
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The value of Platinum status over Gold status is generally a "YMMV" situation. Different people will value different benefits in different ways. Here are the most commonly cited differences that people mention:
  • Boarding in Group 1 instead of Group 2
  • 2 RPUs (none for Gold)
  • Improved chances at CPUs through higher priority
  • 8 companions in E+ on same itinerary vs. 1 companion
  • 3x 70 lb. bags on UA instead of 2x, although plats and golds have exact same additional bag allowance provided to *G on other Star Alliance carriers
  • Greater RDM earning rate (9x instead of 8x base fare)
  • Free award reservation changes, cancellations, miles redeposits if 61 days or more before departure, otherwise $50
  • Somewhat improved premium cabin award space availability
  • Presidential Circle status with Hertz

Plat is the highest level still eligible for Chase MP-branded credit card spend waiver of PQD requirements.

A list of differences is available here: Premier benefits chart


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Old Dec 13, 2017, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by 8MiHi
Finally as a Million-Miler I am earning status for two...
Having just spent about $800 for Plat over Gold, I'm a bit depressed reading this thread (in my mind Plat was still just shy of 1K, which I believe it was at one time). Do both members get the RPUs, at least?

I pretty routinely top the list of those who didn't upgrade, so Plat could actually be a nice benefit over the course of 2018 (not that I'm gaga over UA domestic F). But having read through all of this now, I confess to a bit of buyer's remorse...
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Old Dec 13, 2017, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer
Having just spent about $800 for Plat over Gold, I'm a bit depressed reading this thread (in my mind Plat was still just shy of 1K, which I believe it was at one time). Do both members get the RPUs, at least? .....
MM companions do not get RPUs or GPUs unless they earn them on their own.
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Old Dec 13, 2017, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
MM companions do not get RPUs or GPUs unless they earn them on their own.
Well I reckon the United Continental Holdings shareholders got over on this one! Here's to hoping for a better CPU experience in 2018...
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Old Dec 13, 2017, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer

(in my mind Plat was still just shy of 1K, which I believe it was at one time).
Ya, a devaluation or two (maybe three) ago

Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer

I pretty routinely top the list of those who didn't upgrade, so Plat could actually be a nice benefit over the course of 2018 (not that I'm gaga over UA domestic F). But having read through all of this now, I confess to a bit of buyer's remorse...
A couole or so years ago, I spent a year Plat. That got me to #1 on u/g list very often on non hub routes, but only actually sat up front half of those times. Cut back to Gold and rarely upgrade now - if this month's travel with ANA posts correctly should find out if I fare better as 1K again next year.
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Old Dec 13, 2017, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer
Having just spent about $800 for Plat over Gold, I'm a bit depressed reading this thread (in my mind Plat was still just shy of 1K, which I believe it was at one time). Do both members get the RPUs, at least?

I pretty routinely top the list of those who didn't upgrade, so Plat could actually be a nice benefit over the course of 2018 (not that I'm gaga over UA domestic F). But having read through all of this now, I confess to a bit of buyer's remorse...
The value of Platinum differs from person to person. My upgrade rate at Platinum was reasonable for the current landscape (around 40%, IIRC). 15 years ago, as a CO Platinum, my upgrade rate was close to 100%. Times change, and the fact that there are two tiers above Platinum (counting GS) doesn't help.

Having said that, there's no need for buyer's remorse; it's a sunk cost now. If you were routinely #1 on the list as a Gold, there's a decent chance that your upgrade frequency will go up enough to make up for $800 in buy-ups over the next year. Status is a relative thing; Platinum in COS flying off-peak might be a more valuable level than 1K in SFO flying M-Th (for CPUs, I'm not really kidding).

Go out, evaluate your experience, and if you're faced with a similar decision next December, you'll have personalized data to help make it.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer
Having just spent about $800 for Plat over Gold, I'm a bit depressed reading this thread (in my mind Plat was still just shy of 1K, which I believe it was at one time). Do both members get the RPUs, at least?

I pretty routinely top the list of those who didn't upgrade, so Plat could actually be a nice benefit over the course of 2018 (not that I'm gaga over UA domestic F). But having read through all of this now, I confess to a bit of buyer's remorse...
Your remorse will diminish the first time you take a crowded flight and BG2 passengers have to place their carry-ons away from their seats. This will be doubly true when making a tight connection. Further, your companion will most likely express appreciation for being in BG1.
I did an analysis several years ago and determined that my satisfaction at being Platinum over Gold was worth up to $1000 for the years I expect a busy travel schedule (more than 1 trip per month). Flying out of EWR and annually traveling to HNL does add value over COS when valuing this status and I have gotten much more than that $1000 in actual value.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
The value of Platinum differs from person to person. My upgrade rate at Platinum was reasonable for the current landscape (around 40%, IIRC). 15 years ago, as a CO Platinum, my upgrade rate was close to 100%. Times change, and the fact that there are two tiers above Platinum (counting GS) doesn't help.

Having said that, there's no need for buyer's remorse; it's a sunk cost now. If you were routinely #1 on the list as a Gold, there's a decent chance that your upgrade frequency will go up enough to make up for $800 in buy-ups over the next year. Status is a relative thing; Platinum in COS flying off-peak might be a more valuable level than 1K in SFO flying M-Th (for CPUs, I'm not really kidding).

Go out, evaluate your experience, and if you're faced with a similar decision next December, you'll have personalized data to help make it.
Absolutely agree, used to be a CO Platinum 15 years ago and near 100% CPU. Now it's much less of course, but personally there's still good value. I do a lot of personal coast to coast travel on Saturdays, returning Tues and still get upgraded most of the time on Sat (LAX-ORD-BTV).

Was able to use my two RPU's on LAX-EWR or SFO-EWR p.s. routes and it was a great experience.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 9:16 am
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Reading these last few posts, am thinking of doing the mileage run, which would be a first for me. Am just missing 600 miles for 75k, out of SFO. Monday would be perfect.
My wife will think I am nuts, but I tend to agree that BG1 and a better shot at upgrades would be worth it (for me at least). Also the extra flexibility with cancellations and changes.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 9:24 am
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I am 5,000 PQM short of Gold, but have the PQD. I am a 5 year Platinum and this year just haven't had to fly. Sad that Platinum is nowhere in sight, I think BG1 is the best perk along with the 8 E+ seats, rarely get upgrades out of EWR.

Any suggestions on a cheap mileage run for 5000 PQM, or should I just suck it up and buy the premier accelerator miles...
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 9:27 am
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Thanks very much for the encouraging words, all! Agreed - it's a sunk cost at this point. On the bright side, the offers I'm seeing for my final flights of the year are back up in the range of 1.5 - 2 times what I paid, so at least I have that satisfaction.

Yesterday flying ex-BOG, BG1 would've been nice (just because of the uncomfortable GB3+ crowding of the gate upon boarding BG1). Except I'm generally an exit row flier, and I keep my backpack underneath the seat in front of me, so it's not going to be a huge benefit.

(On the humorous side, my wife is very competitive, and can't wait for her new Plat luggage tags )
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by JCrew7384
I am 5,000 PQM short of Gold, but have the PQD. I am a 5 year Platinum and this year just haven't had to fly. Sad that Platinum is nowhere in sight, I think BG1 is the best perk along with the 8 E+ seats, rarely get upgrades out of EWR.

Any suggestions on a cheap mileage run for 5000 PQM, or should I just suck it up and buy the premier accelerator miles?

Accelerator Miles seem to have jumped up in price. Maybe you can find a good P fare.

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Old Dec 15, 2017, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by 8MiHi
Accelerator Miles seem to have jumped up in price. Maybe you can find a good P fare.
The other day I got 14 cpm (for 6k miles) on an E fare. Not awesome, not horrendous.

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Old Dec 15, 2017, 2:07 pm
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I am 3,300 PQMs short of Platinum... Have an offer for 4,000 award miles and 4,000 PQMs for $540. Ends up being $0.135/PQM. I will be traveling significantly more next year than this year out of DEN with travel all over the US... Hubs and small airports. Thoughts?
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by mindrisa
I am 3,300 PQMs short of Platinum... Have an offer for 4,000 award miles and 4,000 PQMs for $540. Ends up being $0.135/PQM. I will be traveling significantly more next year than this year out of DEN with travel all over the US... Hubs and small airports. Thoughts?
There's plenty of pros/cons dialog to be found here, so I won't attempt to add to that. But I will say don't hold out for a better deal, if that's what you're thinking - I'd have loved to have gotten away with only spending $540!
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer
There's plenty of pros/cons dialog to be found here, so I won't attempt to add to that. But I will say don't hold out for a better deal, if that's what you're thinking - I'd have loved to have gotten away with only spending $540!
That's the kind of advice I was looking for. Thanks! The only other option I could find was a full day mileage run starting at 6:00am and ending at 9:30pm and would have cost about $100 more.
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