Gate Agent Denied Boarding for NonRev Women Wearing Leggings
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I can guarantee you that her opinion on Twitter gets more attention than many others, myself included. Not all opinions are equal. I won't gamble on reading her mind, so who knows what she thinks. I know what she wrote, and I'm fine with the idea that UA shouldn't be immune from being criticized for policing young kids' clothing when the clothing would even be considered classroom appropriate.
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Gee, maybe she's just looking for another 15 minutes of fame, eh?
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Most everyone is a self-appointed officious busybody when their intense interests are hit. This thread and the attacks upon (or defenses of) Watts are a sign of that too.
I can guarantee you that her opinion on Twitter gets more attention than many others, myself included. Not all opinions are equal. I won't gamble on reading her mind, so who knows what she thinks. I know what she wrote, and I'm fine with the idea that UA shouldn't be immune from being criticized for policing young kids' clothing when the clothing would even be considered classroom appropriate.
I can guarantee you that her opinion on Twitter gets more attention than many others, myself included. Not all opinions are equal. I won't gamble on reading her mind, so who knows what she thinks. I know what she wrote, and I'm fine with the idea that UA shouldn't be immune from being criticized for policing young kids' clothing when the clothing would even be considered classroom appropriate.
Since I have happily never been on Twitter or Fakebook etc., her attention-seeking doesn't affect me in the slightest. I am just upset about the proliferation of Fake News by the major media reporting on this subject. I am happy to see at least one major media outlet changed their story to reflect the blogger's questionable motives, perhaps more will investigate her.
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I see nothing wrong with being critical of a supplier's policies over its attire rules for employees, for employee's acquaintances using employment-related benefits, and/or for other passengers.
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A dress code has been around for over 60 or 70 years for non-rev's and there is NO REQUIREMENT that anyone is required to abide by those rules, UNLESS THEY WANT TO FLY ON A COMPANY ISSUED FREE PASS!
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Most of the attacks that I read on here were that she was a liar, and falsely characterized the situation for personal gain-Seems fair to me.
Since I have happily never been on Twitter or Fakebook etc., her attention-seeking doesn't affect me in the slightest. I am just upset about the proliferation of Fake News by the major media reporting on this subject. I am happy to see at least one major media outlet changed their story to reflect the blogger's questionable motives, perhaps more will investigate her.
Since I have happily never been on Twitter or Fakebook etc., her attention-seeking doesn't affect me in the slightest. I am just upset about the proliferation of Fake News by the major media reporting on this subject. I am happy to see at least one major media outlet changed their story to reflect the blogger's questionable motives, perhaps more will investigate her.
When Watt evidently learned (and United changed its defense) that pass travel was involved, she noted this in her post, which is linked to above.
That pass travel was involved is sort of Sui generis to her broader point about "controlling young girl's bodies" and sexist dress codes, as they apply to LEGGINS
You can disagree with her, say she is looking for attention, but it is OTT and inaccurate to say she is a lair or peddling "FAKE NEWS"
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Can I suggest the gay male test for women's clothing?
First, I completely support women/girls right to wear whatever they choose. To me leggings look not much different than spandex/lycra. I could wear spandex on a plane, but you really don't want me too.
I occasionally see women (or men) in tight clothing. Usually it's at the gym, or around town, but sometimes at the airport. I just have to ask, if you're wearing clothing so tight it shows off your entire anatomy, are you surprised that even a gay male is staring at you? (Not to even say how many straight men are looking at you?)
I think the rule should be, if you are getting stares from straight *and* gay males, maybe what you have on is too revealing, and you might want to change?
Of course, again, women have every right to ignore my advice.
First, I completely support women/girls right to wear whatever they choose. To me leggings look not much different than spandex/lycra. I could wear spandex on a plane, but you really don't want me too.
I occasionally see women (or men) in tight clothing. Usually it's at the gym, or around town, but sometimes at the airport. I just have to ask, if you're wearing clothing so tight it shows off your entire anatomy, are you surprised that even a gay male is staring at you? (Not to even say how many straight men are looking at you?)
I think the rule should be, if you are getting stares from straight *and* gay males, maybe what you have on is too revealing, and you might want to change?
Of course, again, women have every right to ignore my advice.
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What if women stare? Shouldn't that be part of your criteria?
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I'll go with Mr. Carolla's track record for BS-detection over yours or mine.
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Whether a particular item of clothing "deserves a stare" is immaterial. UA has a policy that applies to their employees traveling on the company dime, and it is their policy. I understand employees who have a problem with the policy - I don't understand why busybodies like Ms. Watts believe it is their mission in life to right every wrong they come across, especially when the policy doesn't affect them personally.