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United's Announcement and FAQ
Kacee's Interpretation
Main Impact Since October 6
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This is an archive thread, the active thread is Award booking questions/ issues/ routing/ excursionist problems / help
Kacee's Interpretation
Main Impact Since October 6
- Fee Changes such as platinum members are subject to various award fees
- No more free stopover - replaced with Excursionist Perk
- Agents no longer have the ability to find routings that do not show up on united.com
- Manually constructing trips using multi-city search results in multiple award fares being charged
- Changing any segment MIGHT require current availability for all existing Os&Ds in the PNR (as if a brand new booking is made) - YMMV
- Singapore Airlines segments are priced separately (add-ons)
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This is an archive thread, the active thread is Award booking questions/ issues/ routing/ excursionist problems / help
UA award booking,change questions/fees/issues/routing/excursionist problems {Archive}
#1366
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 724
Are < 24hr international award connections still allowed
Can someone tell me why this isn't pricing out to 40,000 miles? I'm using multi city tool to piece it together, but the connection is less than 24 hours, so it should price out at 40k instead of 55k. When i get to the final page it still totals to 55k. If I call in will they price it out to 40,000?
Last edited by longleaf; Mar 28, 2017 at 7:39 pm
#1367
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SJC / DPS
Programs: AS G75K, UA Silver
Posts: 1,757
Sadly that's not how it works anymore. Your itinerary will now price as two awards.
The way it works now is you input an origin and destination and it gives you the options. You can't piece it together with <24 hour stops unless it's one of the options when you search. You do get an "excursionist perk" if you're doing a multi city award usually
There's a whole thread dedicated to this change somewhere
The way it works now is you input an origin and destination and it gives you the options. You can't piece it together with <24 hour stops unless it's one of the options when you search. You do get an "excursionist perk" if you're doing a multi city award usually
There's a whole thread dedicated to this change somewhere
#1368
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Houston
Programs: UA Plat, Marriott Gold
Posts: 12,694
Yes, they are allowed.
If offered by UA for the starting and ending point you enter, they're free.
If you force them with multi-city, you pay for each segment you forced, minus any applicable excursionist perk.
If offered by UA for the starting and ending point you enter, they're free.
If you force them with multi-city, you pay for each segment you forced, minus any applicable excursionist perk.
#1369
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 539
Agree with everyone above. You can only go with what their computer system gives you for routings. Also, if you call in they're limited to the same itineraries and will rarely be willing to "override" anything anymore.
#1370
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Platinum, AF, Chase, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 1,090
That looks like a miserable itinerary anyway. I see XNA-ORD-PVG-BKK on the same day for 40,000 miles + $20 o/w. Gets you there about 12 hours faster too.
#1371
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 724
Bummer.
It was just a sample itinerary to test the connection. Not looking to book that exact layover. Being that PEK is in a different region than BKK, it won't count as an excursionist perk, so i was trying to test forcing a long connection (preferably during the day).
Thanks guys.
It was just a sample itinerary to test the connection. Not looking to book that exact layover. Being that PEK is in a different region than BKK, it won't count as an excursionist perk, so i was trying to test forcing a long connection (preferably during the day).
Thanks guys.
#1372
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: United
Posts: 1
[moved from another thread that mentioned SFO-BKK award booking problems]
I am also having trouble booking round trip SFO->BKK award travel. I want Aug30-Sept11 Business Saver on EVA but I get an error on the site after selecting the first flight. I called in twice and was told the flight wasn't available from EVA for an unknown reason.
I've since tried multiple award tickets across different airlines and dates but get the same website error after selecting the first flight.
Is anyone else seeing similar behavior?
[Update: It's magically working 24 hours later. Flight booked!]
I am also having trouble booking round trip SFO->BKK award travel. I want Aug30-Sept11 Business Saver on EVA but I get an error on the site after selecting the first flight. I called in twice and was told the flight wasn't available from EVA for an unknown reason.
I've since tried multiple award tickets across different airlines and dates but get the same website error after selecting the first flight.
Is anyone else seeing similar behavior?
[Update: It's magically working 24 hours later. Flight booked!]
Last edited by krog; Mar 29, 2017 at 3:42 pm
#1373
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist, National EE
Posts: 253
Booking OS space?
Both Expertflyer and AwardNexus (*A AC) think there are 2 business class seats on the OS LAX-VIE flight on May 10. I couldn't get united.com to pull this up, so called. The agent said she sees 1 seat on that day.
Can anyone explain the discrepancy? Or tell me how to get more reliable availability?
Can anyone explain the discrepancy? Or tell me how to get more reliable availability?
#1374
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 31,452
All of these services sometimes display phantom inventory. There is no conspiracy.
#1375
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 4
Award ticket availability different in oneway and multi-city search
I am not sure is this always the case or the new system/rule caused this. I search for a Multi-city trip from A to B, B to C and D to A. It worked out fine. There is only one flight option for me in the A to B leg in this way. However, when I ran the search on the same day for A to B, there are three options now, with two shorter trip options. I called the representative but received unsatisfying answer. She explained as multiple people are searching the system, the free one way leg caused the limitation(problem still exists when removing that leg) etc... Basically none of them make sense since the availability should be the same for everyone for the same flight. It should not be differentiated based on whether you have future flight or not (if there is any, it should give customers who are paying more with more options right?) Has anyone had similar experience? Is there anyway get around with this system defect?
#1376
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.997MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,859
I am not sure is this always the case or the new system/rule caused this. I search for a Multi-city trip from A to B, B to C and D to A. It worked out fine. There is only one flight option for me in the A to B leg in this way. However, when I ran the search on the same day for A to B, there are three options now, with two shorter trip options.
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Has anyone had similar experience? ...
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Has anyone had similar experience? ...
Generally no but in the thread's link there is a link to a blogger's approach.
#1377
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVPG
Posts: 2,956
Yesterday I successfully modified a J award online (from 1K account so no change fee). VCE-OS-VIE-OS-LAX-UA-SFO. After I modified, I got an availability alert from expertflyer for the next day (our preferred date), but UA wasn't showing VCE-VIE as available. Today the whole route is available on .bomb, and I can book it as a new ticket, but if I try to modify my existing PNR I immediately get the error that there are no seats available on that date. Called in this morning, and was told they are having system issues and I should try again later. Thoughts on strategy? Should 1K desk be believed?
Edited to add: I can book this as a completely new round trip itinerary. Is there any risk in booking the new itinerary, waiting for it to ticket, then cancelling the old one? Any chance the duplicated pax on same flights would trigger something nasty?
Edited to add: I can book this as a completely new round trip itinerary. Is there any risk in booking the new itinerary, waiting for it to ticket, then cancelling the old one? Any chance the duplicated pax on same flights would trigger something nasty?
Last edited by spgaston; Apr 1, 2017 at 11:31 am Reason: additional question
#1378
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,478
#1379
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,390
Hi everyone! Been awhile since I have posted in the UA forum!!
Quick question as this is my first time redeeming miles as a non-status member... I am looking into booking an award ticket in saver business class returning from Europe in the summer. One caveat I have is the connection in ORD is over 8 hours as there is no saver space on the earlier UA flights (ORD-PIT is the connection).
If I go ahead and book the award flight will I be able to switch to an earlier UA flight if saver space opens up? I am not too concerned about whether it will be in Y or F - just want to get back in PIT in the afternoon or early evening not at midnight.
Thanks! ^
Quick question as this is my first time redeeming miles as a non-status member... I am looking into booking an award ticket in saver business class returning from Europe in the summer. One caveat I have is the connection in ORD is over 8 hours as there is no saver space on the earlier UA flights (ORD-PIT is the connection).
If I go ahead and book the award flight will I be able to switch to an earlier UA flight if saver space opens up? I am not too concerned about whether it will be in Y or F - just want to get back in PIT in the afternoon or early evening not at midnight.
Thanks! ^
#1380
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.997MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,859
There have been issues reported in making changes when new available opens up, not sure if this is fully understand yet.
SDC is also possible within 24 hours of departure of both the old and new flights but it requires award space to be available. There will be a fee also, but there would not be any needed to impact the rest of the itin.