Horrific United Flight Attendant - what to do
#196
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 989
Totally agree. UA runs such an inefficient and incompetent airline. I tried to leave them since my status last expired two years ago and moved to be AA ExPLT the last two years. But I can't completely severe ties because in the 5 trips I've taken with UA since, only one was without hiccup and they've comp'd me with $4,20 in vouchers and 3000 euros (EC261) in these 5 trips (I have 5 people in my family). Last took a flight with them in May and the FA talked down to me every time like she owned me or something.
#197
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ORD
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 16,901
I sensed they hated us, not their employer, and in any case this was an anomaly is a recent run of great crews. The issue is that they still exist.
#198
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: United Global Services, Amtrak Select Executive
Posts: 4,098
I know anecdote is not data, but just wanted to chime in with my own personal experience: I've been flying CO and now UA for many decades, and my experience with FAs has been nearly unanimously positive. I have never once seen overtly affirmatively rude or nasty service, like reported here. I have definitely seen a range of proactiveness. Today I was on a PS flight in row 1, and listened as an FA said to the food service guy (provisioning was late, so we were already on the plane), "Can you please see if you have a nice silver coffee pot? I really like to serve my passengers coffee from a nice pot!" And the food guy found such a pot in his truck, and the FA said, "Thank you! This will be much nicer for serving the passengers!" There are lots of FAs like this at United.
#199
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: NYC / TYO / Up in the Air
Programs: UA GS 1.7MM, AA 2.1MM, EK, BA, SQ, CX, Marriot LT, Accor P
Posts: 6,319
I know anecdote is not data, but just wanted to chime in with my own personal experience: I've been flying CO and now UA for many decades, and my experience with FAs has been nearly unanimously positive. I have never once seen overtly affirmatively rude or nasty service, like reported here. I have definitely seen a range of proactiveness. Today I was on a PS flight in row 1, and listened as an FA said to the food service guy (provisioning was late, so we were already on the plane), "Can you please see if you have a nice silver coffee pot? I really like to serve my passengers coffee from a nice pot!" And the food guy found such a pot in his truck, and the FA said, "Thank you! This will be much nicer for serving the passengers!" There are lots of FAs like this at United.
#200
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ORD
Programs: UA 1K
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I know anecdote is not data, but just wanted to chime in with my own personal experience: I've been flying CO and now UA for many decades, and my experience with FAs has been nearly unanimously positive. I have never once seen overtly affirmatively rude or nasty service, like reported here. I have definitely seen a range of proactiveness. Today I was on a PS flight in row 1, and listened as an FA said to the food service guy (provisioning was late, so we were already on the plane), "Can you please see if you have a nice silver coffee pot? I really like to serve my passengers coffee from a nice pot!" And the food guy found such a pot in his truck, and the FA said, "Thank you! This will be much nicer for serving the passengers!" There are lots of FAs like this at United.
#201
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: OSL/IAH/ZRH (time, not preference)
Programs: UA1K, LH GM, AA EXP->GM
Posts: 38,265
I am not disagreeing with that, I am arguing that for great service you're going to need a bit of sugar on top of proper procedure in a U.S. context in particular. Procedure is nice, but procedure delivered with a dour face and minimalist communication isn't going to cut it.
My biggest beef is still with the products of the airline itself ... especially the absence of beef on intl. routes ....
#202
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NYC, LON
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Posts: 2,774
#203
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 375
Today I was on a PS flight in row 1, and listened as an FA said to the food service guy (provisioning was late, so we were already on the plane), "Can you please see if you have a nice silver coffee pot? I really like to serve my passengers coffee from a nice pot!" And the food guy found such a pot in his truck, and the FA said, "Thank you! This will be much nicer for serving the passengers!" There are lots of FAs like this at United.
#204
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 957
I've always thought of it this was as well.... The nicer the plane, the more comfortable the layout, the better mood passengers are in once they board. The tighter the plane, the more we're squeezed into our space (in any of the cabins), the more we need to gate lice to ensure we have a place for our belongings...the more stressed we are once we board.
This is no excuse for some of the behavior reported (and which I've witnessed countless times), but it almost certainly contributes. When there are 150+ passengers who just completed a stressful boarding process and are shoehorned into a seat, a few of them are going to speak to FA aggressively when they are instructed. Human nature is to put up a defense.
As I've said, it's MUCH more UA and the process and procedures than the individual FA. They are the product of the broken system.
This is no excuse for some of the behavior reported (and which I've witnessed countless times), but it almost certainly contributes. When there are 150+ passengers who just completed a stressful boarding process and are shoehorned into a seat, a few of them are going to speak to FA aggressively when they are instructed. Human nature is to put up a defense.
As I've said, it's MUCH more UA and the process and procedures than the individual FA. They are the product of the broken system.