Oct 8, 2015, 9:39 am
Last edit by: UA Insider
Hi everyone,
Today we are announcing two additional routes out of San Francisco International Airport (SFO), in addition to our previously announced Xi’an, China service. Pending government approval, we plan to operate service between San Francisco-Tel Aviv (TLV) and San Francisco-Auckland (AKL) on our Dreamliner aircraft beginning in 2016.
Check out additional details, including launch dates, in our press release.
-UA Insider
http://newsroom.united.com/2015-10-0...Make-it-Better
Today we are announcing two additional routes out of San Francisco International Airport (SFO), in addition to our previously announced Xi’an, China service. Pending government approval, we plan to operate service between San Francisco-Tel Aviv (TLV) and San Francisco-Auckland (AKL) on our Dreamliner aircraft beginning in 2016.
Check out additional details, including launch dates, in our press release.
-UA Insider
http://newsroom.united.com/2015-10-0...Make-it-Better
United Airlines Made SFO the Best Pacific Hub. And Then Found 3 Ways to Make it Better.
Airline to launch one new Atlantic and two new Pacific services
October 08, 2015
SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 8, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines, the U.S. airline with the most comprehensive route network and the most trans-Pacific service, will further expand its global reach with new nonstop service from San Francisco to:
Tel Aviv, Israel, with service three times each week beginning March 30, 2016;
Auckland, New Zealand, with service three times each week beginning July 1, 2016, expanding to daily service in October; and
Xi'an, China, previously announced, three-times-weekly service beginning May 8, 2016, for the summer season.
Each new service is subject to government approval.
The airline intends to operate the new flights with the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, the world's most advanced passenger airplane.
The Tel Aviv and Xi'an flights will be available for booking on united.com on October 10, 2015, with the Auckland flights available for booking on October 17, 2015.
San Francisco-Tel Aviv: Linking High-Tech Markets
As part of United's evaluation for serving San Francisco (SFO) to Tel Aviv (TLV) nonstop, the airline considered the opinions of thousands of customers who petitioned for the service through the SFOTLV.ORG petition effort.
"Providing corporate customers from throughout the Bay Area and Silicon Valley nonstop service to the high-tech market in Israel has been high on our priority list at United," said Dave Hilfman, United's senior vice president of worldwide sales. "Now with the 787-9 Dreamliner, we're delighted to make it a reality."
Flight | From To | Departure | Arrival
UA954 | SFO TLV | 8 p.m. We/Fr/Su | 8:10 p.m. the next day
UA955 | TLV SFO | 12:55 a.m. Tu/Fr/Su | 6 a.m. the same day
Flight times will be 14 hours, 10 minutes eastbound and 15 hours, 5 minutes westbound.
United has served Israel since 1999. The airline currently offers twice-daily Boeing 777 nonstop flights between Tel Aviv and New York/Newark.
San Francisco-Auckland
United's three-times weekly service to Auckland (AKL), New Zealand's largest city and main transportation hub to other points throughout the country, will launch July 1, 2016, with 787-8 aircraft. The schedule will expand to daily flights operating with 787-9 aircraft on Oct. 28, 2016, in time for the peak-winter travel season.
The Auckland flights will operate in partnership with United's Star Alliance partner Air New Zealand.
Flight | From To | Departure | Arrival
UA917 | SFO AKL | 10:45 p.m. | 6:55 a.m. two days later
UA916 | AKL SFO | 1:20 p.m. | 6:40 a.m. the same day
Flight times will be 13 hours, 10 minutes westbound and 12 hours, 20 minutes eastbound.
United in San Francisco
From its San Francisco hub, United operates nearly 280 daily flights to more than 90 destinations in North America, Latin America, Europe and Asia/Pacific.
Airline to launch one new Atlantic and two new Pacific services
October 08, 2015
SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 8, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines, the U.S. airline with the most comprehensive route network and the most trans-Pacific service, will further expand its global reach with new nonstop service from San Francisco to:
Tel Aviv, Israel, with service three times each week beginning March 30, 2016;
Auckland, New Zealand, with service three times each week beginning July 1, 2016, expanding to daily service in October; and
Xi'an, China, previously announced, three-times-weekly service beginning May 8, 2016, for the summer season.
Each new service is subject to government approval.
The airline intends to operate the new flights with the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, the world's most advanced passenger airplane.
The Tel Aviv and Xi'an flights will be available for booking on united.com on October 10, 2015, with the Auckland flights available for booking on October 17, 2015.
San Francisco-Tel Aviv: Linking High-Tech Markets
As part of United's evaluation for serving San Francisco (SFO) to Tel Aviv (TLV) nonstop, the airline considered the opinions of thousands of customers who petitioned for the service through the SFOTLV.ORG petition effort.
"Providing corporate customers from throughout the Bay Area and Silicon Valley nonstop service to the high-tech market in Israel has been high on our priority list at United," said Dave Hilfman, United's senior vice president of worldwide sales. "Now with the 787-9 Dreamliner, we're delighted to make it a reality."
Flight | From To | Departure | Arrival
UA954 | SFO TLV | 8 p.m. We/Fr/Su | 8:10 p.m. the next day
UA955 | TLV SFO | 12:55 a.m. Tu/Fr/Su | 6 a.m. the same day
Flight times will be 14 hours, 10 minutes eastbound and 15 hours, 5 minutes westbound.
United has served Israel since 1999. The airline currently offers twice-daily Boeing 777 nonstop flights between Tel Aviv and New York/Newark.
San Francisco-Auckland
United's three-times weekly service to Auckland (AKL), New Zealand's largest city and main transportation hub to other points throughout the country, will launch July 1, 2016, with 787-8 aircraft. The schedule will expand to daily flights operating with 787-9 aircraft on Oct. 28, 2016, in time for the peak-winter travel season.
The Auckland flights will operate in partnership with United's Star Alliance partner Air New Zealand.
Flight | From To | Departure | Arrival
UA917 | SFO AKL | 10:45 p.m. | 6:55 a.m. two days later
UA916 | AKL SFO | 1:20 p.m. | 6:40 a.m. the same day
Flight times will be 13 hours, 10 minutes westbound and 12 hours, 20 minutes eastbound.
United in San Francisco
From its San Francisco hub, United operates nearly 280 daily flights to more than 90 destinations in North America, Latin America, Europe and Asia/Pacific.
UA Announces new Auckland and Tel Aviv service from San Francisco
Oct 8, 2015, 5:33 pm
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....but a BIG portion of the travelers who actually will be on those flights, paying the business or first class fares, etc, actually live closer to SFO, or at least equally as close to SFO. I know that when I come home from a biz trip I want to be able to get home as quickly as possible. It's that simple.
And United is offering status match to all my company employees.
It is not just high tech in Isarel.
Oct 8, 2015, 6:15 pm
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Oct 8, 2015, 6:25 pm
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It is too bad to see a 2 class 787 to AkL. I loved flying the 3 class 747 to there in the past on united in the 1990s. The service then was amazing in F and was very spacious. The 787 feels cramped even in J. They really need to make the 787 more premium and improve the service on the 787. I much prefer the crews I get on the 747s over the 787s.
Oct 8, 2015, 6:30 pm
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This is interesting to me --
What is the benefit of flying two very similarly timed flights, aside from the capacity increase? If it's already a JV, why not put one single larger aircraft on?
If it were possible to space the departures during the day, it could take advantage of different passenger routings. But I think due to the flight duration, necessity of feeder flights, and reasonable origin/arrival times (and curfew?) it can only depart at night.
What is the benefit of flying two very similarly timed flights, aside from the capacity increase? If it's already a JV, why not put one single larger aircraft on?
If it were possible to space the departures during the day, it could take advantage of different passenger routings. But I think due to the flight duration, necessity of feeder flights, and reasonable origin/arrival times (and curfew?) it can only depart at night.
UA and NH have many TPAC flights timed together, for one thing that is basically force the competitors to have a lesser market share to even drop out the market entirely, e.g. ORD-NRT: UA 1x 744 NH 2x 77W, which force AA downgrade from 3 class 772 to 2 class 788.
For one thing though, each of the carriers frequent flyers will not crossover to fly the partner's plane no matter they have a JV or not, UA flyers will not fly NZ in Y because of lack of E+ and 3-4-3 in the 77W, NZ flyers will not fly UA because of the substandard meals and service, if you don't believe it you can ask how many people on here had switched to fly NH TPAC instead since the JV quite a few years ago ? Whenever NH brought it up in the UA forum here, many people only relate their NH experience years ago about their cramp Y seating ! How many people on here know NH fly their 2-4-3 config 77W with 34" legroom in Y ?
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Oct 8, 2015, 6:53 pm
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One single larger aircraft like what ? You do know that neither UA or NZ has A380 right ?
UA and NH have many TPAC flights timed together, for one thing that is basically force the competitors to have a lesser market share to even drop out the market entirely, e.g. ORD-NRT: UA 1x 744 NH 2x 77W, which force AA downgrade from 3 class 772 to 2 class 788.
UA and NH have many TPAC flights timed together, for one thing that is basically force the competitors to have a lesser market share to even drop out the market entirely, e.g. ORD-NRT: UA 1x 744 NH 2x 77W, which force AA downgrade from 3 class 772 to 2 class 788.
Similarly the NZ options back to America are all about filling connections from Australia, and from around New Zealand.
UA's timings will be better for connections from the east coast, and their 1:20 departure ex-AKL and 6:40 arrival into SFO will be better for connections to Midwest/east coast. Though horrible for sleeping on
Oct 8, 2015, 7:30 pm
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That way UA will be able to offer MEL pax, non-stop LAX service and a 1-stop same plane service to SFO. Though that's what NZ already kinda does!
Oct 8, 2015, 7:45 pm
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For one thing though, each of the carriers frequent flyers will not crossover to fly the partner's plane no matter they have a JV or not, UA flyers will not fly NZ in Y because of lack of E+ and 3-4-3 in the 77W, NZ flyers will not fly UA because of the substandard meals and service, if you don't believe it you can ask how many people on here had switched to fly NH TPAC instead since the JV quite a few years ago ? Whenever NH brought it up in the UA forum here, many people only relate their NH experience years ago about their cramp Y seating ! How many people on here know NH fly their 2-4-3 config 77W with 34" legroom in Y ?
Oct 8, 2015, 8:18 pm
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Oct 8, 2015, 8:24 pm
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ORD seems like a logical add after EWR. From SFO, good luck to them. They'll need it.
Oct 8, 2015, 8:44 pm
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Oct 8, 2015, 8:58 pm
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Too bad the times suck on the TLV-SFO segment.
Oct 8, 2015, 9:01 pm
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in an alternate universe where UA was committed to GF and put an IPTE 772 on the new routes, would the first class cabin be lucrative for SFO-AKL (or, probably more likely, TLV)?
my knowledge of tech sector travel policies is scant.
my knowledge of tech sector travel policies is scant.
Oct 8, 2015, 9:08 pm
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I like the new routes. Tech (and related services) will definitely drive the TLV traffic, plus SFO will now be the connection point to TLV from DEN west. LAX will likely provide a particularly large amount of feed.
And SFO-AKL will be one of the most coveted saver awards in the entire system.