Last edit by: goalie
Many of the questions about the validity of itineraries containing open jaws or stopovers can be found in the wiki at: Consolidated Rules for Open Jaw and Stopver Award Flights. Please read that prior to posting questions.
MileagePlus Star Alliance Travel Rules
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...airawards.aspx
MileagePlus Star Alliance Travel Rules
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...airawards.aspx
Consolidated "Is My UA Award Itinerary Valid?" Thread [2014]
#76
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You may also be running into a segment limit. There are just too many variables to pinpoint the problem.
#77
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Oddly though, if I make the departure into Mykonos rather than Tbilisi, it will book the whole trip online, still with 4 outbound segments and 8 return. So I'm feeling like that might not be the problem.
I was so proud of myself for doing my due diligence, but it looks like I'm running up against a wall. :/
#78
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Plz help United Award Asia to U.S via Europe & one extra question
Hi,
I am new to united award booking and trying to use up my miles before 1st Feb!
Trying to book these flights on business class,would this routing be allowed as 1 RT ticket?
ATL - PEK ( stay 20 hours ) - PVG
HKG - PRG (stopover) (open jaw) CDG - ATL
We are actually pretty flexible with where we stopover in Europe and where to fly out from Europe; as we are planning to travel around in EU for a month.Please kindly suggest which airlines would be the best to redeem biz class award tickets from asia to us via Europe (nice cabin and good availability).
One extra question: my husband would need to do a trip as below, as he has a meeting back in u.s between our trips in asia and Europe. Could you suggest what would be the cost effective way to book the United award.
ATL - HKG
HKG - SFO
SFO - PRG/CDG/FRA or any other major EUairport
PRG/CDG/FRA or any other major EUairport - ATL
Any suggestions would be great!!!
Thanks in advance!
I am new to united award booking and trying to use up my miles before 1st Feb!
Trying to book these flights on business class,would this routing be allowed as 1 RT ticket?
ATL - PEK ( stay 20 hours ) - PVG
HKG - PRG (stopover) (open jaw) CDG - ATL
We are actually pretty flexible with where we stopover in Europe and where to fly out from Europe; as we are planning to travel around in EU for a month.Please kindly suggest which airlines would be the best to redeem biz class award tickets from asia to us via Europe (nice cabin and good availability).
One extra question: my husband would need to do a trip as below, as he has a meeting back in u.s between our trips in asia and Europe. Could you suggest what would be the cost effective way to book the United award.
ATL - HKG
HKG - SFO
SFO - PRG/CDG/FRA or any other major EUairport
PRG/CDG/FRA or any other major EUairport - ATL
Any suggestions would be great!!!
Thanks in advance!
#79
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Hello
I tried to call UA twice already and the rate desk kept giving me 110K instead. Should this be priced at 67.5K?
YYZ-FRA (Connection)
FRA-BKK (Connection)
BKK-HND (Destination)
Thanks for your input.
I tried to call UA twice already and the rate desk kept giving me 110K instead. Should this be priced at 67.5K?
YYZ-FRA (Connection)
FRA-BKK (Connection)
BKK-HND (Destination)
Thanks for your input.
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#81
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Hi guys, please help, so I can price out ICN-SYD-AKL-PPT//PPT-AKL-BKK-TPE as one round trip award. But I want to add in TPE-ICN, so that would make TPE as the stopover point, but the system keeps erroring out. Any hints? Also, I can go to TPE before or after PPT if it makes any difference due what is considered stopover vs destination, thanks
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Hi guys, please help, so I can price out ICN-SYD-AKL-PPT//PPT-AKL-BKK-TPE as one round trip award. But I want to add in TPE-ICN, so that would make TPE as the stopover point, but the system keeps erroring out. Any hints? Also, I can go to TPE before or after PPT if it makes any difference due what is considered stopover vs destination, thanks
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As a data point I got this to succcessfully go on hold using United.com:
FRA - BIO (stopover)
BIO - FRA - OSL (open-jaw)
BGO - FRA
25,000 Miles and $118 per person
The website wouldn't let me price it out / hold it with a more preferred connection so I called and successfully had a United agent change it to:
FRA - BIO (stopover)
BIO - MUC - OSL (open-jaw)
BGO - FRA
25,000 Miles and $111 per person
FRA - BIO (stopover)
BIO - FRA - OSL (open-jaw)
BGO - FRA
25,000 Miles and $118 per person
The website wouldn't let me price it out / hold it with a more preferred connection so I called and successfully had a United agent change it to:
FRA - BIO (stopover)
BIO - MUC - OSL (open-jaw)
BGO - FRA
25,000 Miles and $111 per person
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#87
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USA>>ASIA via EUROPE
Hi All-
My first post. Woot. Long time lurker and have a quick question. I would like to route to Asia via Europe via something like this all in J. Can I have two stop overs on a round trip award ticket? I have 234K United Miles.
ATL>>FRA>>NCE stop (Can I get from NCE back to FRA?)
FRA>>HKG stop (Can I stop again in HKG?)
HKG>>FRA>>ATL (do I have to route via Europe on the way back to USA?)
or
HKG>>LAX>>ATL (If possible)
Do I have to fly the same carrier? ex. LH
Thanks for your help, I am still learning.
My first post. Woot. Long time lurker and have a quick question. I would like to route to Asia via Europe via something like this all in J. Can I have two stop overs on a round trip award ticket? I have 234K United Miles.
ATL>>FRA>>NCE stop (Can I get from NCE back to FRA?)
FRA>>HKG stop (Can I stop again in HKG?)
HKG>>FRA>>ATL (do I have to route via Europe on the way back to USA?)
or
HKG>>LAX>>ATL (If possible)
Do I have to fly the same carrier? ex. LH
Thanks for your help, I am still learning.
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Hi All-
My first post. Woot. Long time lurker and have a quick question. I would like to route to Asia via Europe via something like this all in J. Can I have two stop overs on a round trip award ticket? I have 234K United Miles.
ATL>>FRA>>NCE stop (Can I get from NCE back to FRA?)
FRA>>HKG stop (Can I stop again in HKG?)
HKG>>FRA>>ATL (do I have to route via Europe on the way back to USA?)
or
HKG>>LAX>>ATL (If possible)
Do I have to fly the same carrier? ex. LH
Thanks for your help, I am still learning.
My first post. Woot. Long time lurker and have a quick question. I would like to route to Asia via Europe via something like this all in J. Can I have two stop overs on a round trip award ticket? I have 234K United Miles.
ATL>>FRA>>NCE stop (Can I get from NCE back to FRA?)
FRA>>HKG stop (Can I stop again in HKG?)
HKG>>FRA>>ATL (do I have to route via Europe on the way back to USA?)
or
HKG>>LAX>>ATL (If possible)
Do I have to fly the same carrier? ex. LH
Thanks for your help, I am still learning.
To answer your question you can have one stopover (i.e. a stop on the ground of longer than 24 hours) in addition to your destination.
Your proposed itinerary looks fine although you will almost certainly be unable to get this to price online. Potential issues are:
1. Many agents will state that crossing both the Pacific and Atlantic oceans makes it a round-the-world itinerary - it does not.
2. Many agents will say you are not allowed an open jaw at a stopover - you are. You may wish to try and book the route without the openjaw and then create it later by deleting the relevant segment. Backtracking through FRA is also likely to make it harder to book.
3. You can have a maximum of four flights each way, you're going to be tight up against this on the outbound with a stop in Europe.
You don't need to (nor probably can you) fly the same carrier throughout, I have an itinerary booked that involves SK, NZ, TG and LX flights.
I would identify space segment by segment and then call in to book this. If you're elite they'll waive the phone booking fee.
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Call back. Some agents allow this, some don't. Sometimes the rate desk allows it, sometimes they don't. I've done JFK-FRA-NRT(stop)-BKK half a dozen times w no problems. That's almost same thing your doing except I stopped in NRT & your stopping in BKK but same route
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Is this valid award
TYO-BKK-PVG-AKL-PPT Destintion
PPT-AKL-PVG-TPE Stopover
TPE-TYO
I have some doubt about the number of regions.
TYO-BKK-PVG-AKL-PPT Destintion
PPT-AKL-PVG-TPE Stopover
TPE-TYO
I have some doubt about the number of regions.