United Airlines Award/Premier Accelerator Rates [2014]
#181
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: UA GS>1K>Nothing; DL DM 2MM; AS 75K>Nothing>MVP
Posts: 9,341
The don't have any room to vary the rates anymore. RDM sales are down because they have raised award redemption prices so a) they can't raise the rate without a further loss of RDM sales, and b) if they lower the rates, it will make management look stupid for devaluing miles earlier this year.
#182
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 10
$0.021/mi RDM (lowest I've seen in this thread)
$0.12/mi PQM (pretty high)
$0.14/mi total
$0.12/mi PQM (pretty high)
$0.14/mi total
#183
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: 1K
Posts: 220
Two upcoming domestic flights
#1
+11,000 miles
0.024 RDM
0.09 PQM
#2
+ 15,000 miles
0.026 RDM
0.09 PQM
#1
+11,000 miles
0.024 RDM
0.09 PQM
#2
+ 15,000 miles
0.026 RDM
0.09 PQM
#184
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
I have YTD Premier qualifying miles of 42,907 with paid bookings that will net me 71,637 PQMs by November. I have plenty of FPQMs to bump that up to 75,000.
Here's what United is offering.
Paid Domestic: 2/3000 miles. RDM=2.6¢, PQM=15¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
My analysis:
In theory, I might be interested in buying 2000-3000 miles to help me get to 75,000, thus United is demanding a lot for that amount of miles. Because I don't need 20,000-30,000 miles United is demanding a lot less.
Conclusion: United knows what it's doing.
Here's what United is offering.
Paid Domestic: 2/3000 miles. RDM=2.6¢, PQM=15¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
My analysis:
In theory, I might be interested in buying 2000-3000 miles to help me get to 75,000, thus United is demanding a lot for that amount of miles. Because I don't need 20,000-30,000 miles United is demanding a lot less.
Conclusion: United knows what it's doing.
#185
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WAS/ BOM
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,567
I have YTD Premier qualifying miles of 42,907 with paid bookings that will net me 71,637 PQMs by November. I have plenty of FPQMs to bump that up to 75,000.
Here's what United is offering.
Paid Domestic: 2/3000 miles. RDM=2.6¢, PQM=15¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
My analysis:
In theory, I might be interested in buying 2000-3000 miles to help me get to 75,000, thus United is demanding a lot for that amount of miles. Because I don't need 20,000-30,000 miles United is demanding a lot less.
Conclusion: United knows what it's doing.
Here's what United is offering.
Paid Domestic: 2/3000 miles. RDM=2.6¢, PQM=15¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
Paid International: 2/30,000 miles. RDM=2.1¢, PQM=10¢
My analysis:
In theory, I might be interested in buying 2000-3000 miles to help me get to 75,000, thus United is demanding a lot for that amount of miles. Because I don't need 20,000-30,000 miles United is demanding a lot less.
Conclusion: United knows what it's doing.
If you are going to only look for 2k or 3k miles, i suggest a small award booking from DC to Boston or EWR. You should see cheaper options than 15c/ PQM. Same goes to some intra-europe awards (I bought some PQM at 8c/PQM for an IST-ATH award booking). Just a suggestion
#186
Join Date: Feb 2014
Programs: UA Plat, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 677
Don't forget to also reduce the cost by the value of the miles you get (including miles from the purchase price using your credit card, etc).
#187
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SF
Programs: UA MM, AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTP, HH Dia
Posts: 1,132
I'm guessing there's no chance you hit $10k in spend? Otherwise, they seem like pretty friendly offers.
#188
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
RNE, reminding everyone that this year's requirements can be changed for 2015. And those changes probably won't be ones we like.
#189
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MDE
Programs: AA EP, CM PP, AV GM, UA Silver, SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,002
I have made two purchases of PAMs this year, both at $0.08/mile + RDM cost. Even at that, it's much more expensive than taking a good MR. If I were not doing an international move that is preventing me from having time/accessibility to MRs, I would not have purchased them at all.
While I have taken a few same day MRs in my life, I prefer to use them to actually go somewhere I will enjoy visiting for a couple of days. That drives the cost up, but it is somewhat offset by the savings compared to buying the accelerators, and I get to do something interesting.
While I have taken a few same day MRs in my life, I prefer to use them to actually go somewhere I will enjoy visiting for a couple of days. That drives the cost up, but it is somewhat offset by the savings compared to buying the accelerators, and I get to do something interesting.
#190
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WAS/ BOM
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,567
I have made two purchases of PAMs this year, both at $0.08/mile + RDM cost. Even at that, it's much more expensive than taking a good MR. If I were not doing an international move that is preventing me from having time/accessibility to MRs, I would not have purchased them at all.
While I have taken a few same day MRs in my life, I prefer to use them to actually go somewhere I will enjoy visiting for a couple of days. That drives the cost up, but it is somewhat offset by the savings compared to buying the accelerators, and I get to do something interesting.
While I have taken a few same day MRs in my life, I prefer to use them to actually go somewhere I will enjoy visiting for a couple of days. That drives the cost up, but it is somewhat offset by the savings compared to buying the accelerators, and I get to do something interesting.
#191
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SIN
Programs: UA 1K, KF
Posts: 59
9.1 all in - tempting
Hi - could use some advice/reality checking.
Family of 4, two already 1K and kids will be platinum by year-end (SIN-based with frequent tpacs). We are all getting offers of 7 cts for pqm plus 2.1 for rdm, which is awfully tempting. Right now all our tpac reservations have this rate, but of course for 40K miles which is way more than they need. Anyone have experience with how rates change halfway through the itin?
In my perfect world, the offer would switch to 20k miles at 9.1 all in, so for about $1800 each I could get the kids 1K. Obviously 12 more GPUs would be great and no doubt we would use them for a redemption value well above $3600, so that looks good to me. We have been pretty successful clearing GPUs. But in your experience do rates jump halfway through? I know they spike year-end, and when you're close to the next level. We are flying in two weeks so I'm trying to get a sense of patterns others have observed.
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.
Family of 4, two already 1K and kids will be platinum by year-end (SIN-based with frequent tpacs). We are all getting offers of 7 cts for pqm plus 2.1 for rdm, which is awfully tempting. Right now all our tpac reservations have this rate, but of course for 40K miles which is way more than they need. Anyone have experience with how rates change halfway through the itin?
In my perfect world, the offer would switch to 20k miles at 9.1 all in, so for about $1800 each I could get the kids 1K. Obviously 12 more GPUs would be great and no doubt we would use them for a redemption value well above $3600, so that looks good to me. We have been pretty successful clearing GPUs. But in your experience do rates jump halfway through? I know they spike year-end, and when you're close to the next level. We are flying in two weeks so I'm trying to get a sense of patterns others have observed.
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.
#192
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MDE
Programs: AA EP, CM PP, AV GM, UA Silver, SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,002
Hi - could use some advice/reality checking.
Family of 4, two already 1K and kids will be platinum by year-end (SIN-based with frequent tpacs). We are all getting offers of 7 cts for pqm plus 2.1 for rdm, which is awfully tempting. Right now all our tpac reservations have this rate, but of course for 40K miles which is way more than they need. Anyone have experience with how rates change halfway through the itin?
In my perfect world, the offer would switch to 20k miles at 9.1 all in, so for about $1800 each I could get the kids 1K. Obviously 12 more GPUs would be great and no doubt we would use them for a redemption value well above $3600, so that looks good to me. We have been pretty successful clearing GPUs. But in your experience do rates jump halfway through? I know they spike year-end, and when you're close to the next level. We are flying in two weeks so I'm trying to get a sense of patterns others have observed.
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.
Family of 4, two already 1K and kids will be platinum by year-end (SIN-based with frequent tpacs). We are all getting offers of 7 cts for pqm plus 2.1 for rdm, which is awfully tempting. Right now all our tpac reservations have this rate, but of course for 40K miles which is way more than they need. Anyone have experience with how rates change halfway through the itin?
In my perfect world, the offer would switch to 20k miles at 9.1 all in, so for about $1800 each I could get the kids 1K. Obviously 12 more GPUs would be great and no doubt we would use them for a redemption value well above $3600, so that looks good to me. We have been pretty successful clearing GPUs. But in your experience do rates jump halfway through? I know they spike year-end, and when you're close to the next level. We are flying in two weeks so I'm trying to get a sense of patterns others have observed.
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.
We are approaching mid-year, and they seldom (but not always) stay flat or get cheaper as the end of year approaches. Unless they change something this year, I'm pretty sure you are seeing the cheapest you'll be offered.
#193
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: TPA
Programs: UA Gold
Posts: 341
Dummy ticket routine?
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#194
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 5
Is this a good deal? 17,500 miles for $368 with the following conditions:
Mileage purchases are nonrefundable and are subject to the MileagePlus® program rules. A federal excise tax is included in the Award Accelerator® price.
Miles purchased with Award Accelerator are redeemable miles only. To receive Premier® qualifying miles, you must add Premier AcceleratorSM to your purchase. Mileage purchases do not count toward Premier qualifying dollars or lifetime miles.
Premier Accelerator alone will not result in Premier status qualification. All qualification criteria still apply.
Miles will credit to your MileagePlus account within 24 hours of purchase.
Mileage purchases are nonrefundable and are subject to the MileagePlus® program rules. A federal excise tax is included in the Award Accelerator® price.
Miles purchased with Award Accelerator are redeemable miles only. To receive Premier® qualifying miles, you must add Premier AcceleratorSM to your purchase. Mileage purchases do not count toward Premier qualifying dollars or lifetime miles.
Premier Accelerator alone will not result in Premier status qualification. All qualification criteria still apply.
Miles will credit to your MileagePlus account within 24 hours of purchase.