Nov 1, 2013, 4:08 am
Last edit by: aacharya
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New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Additional details on changing tickets booked prior to 2/3/14 per UA Insider:
Full details are in post #2588 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22283437-post2588.html
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Q: How will award pricing apply to mixed-carrier Saver Awards?
(reverted to J.Edward's rev)
New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
- F awards on partners went up 40-80%
- J awards on partners went up 20-40%
- F and J awards on UA metal (or mixed carriers where UA metal is in premium cabin followed by partner segment in lower class) as well some Y awards increased by 5-20% (US to Europe in F up 19%, US to Middle East in F up 20% for example)
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
US ✈ Southern South America: +10,000 J, +5,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
- Complimentary Premier Upgrades and instant upgrades are not applicable
- Regional Premier Upgrades (for any fare class) and Global Premier Upgrades (for flights booked in fare class Z, P, S, T, L, K, G or N) can no longer be requested on or after November 1, 2013
- There is no co-pay exemption for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards requested on or after November 1, 2013
- The above changes do not apply to Copa-operated flights.
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.
Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:
- Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can't change)
- Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
- Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Updated handling for mixed UA-Partner United/partner award itineraries: As we shared with the initial announcement, the Star Alliance/Partner partner award pricing will apply to Business or First awards for itineraries that include at least one flight segment operated by a MileagePlus partner carrier in Business or First.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
- For example: IAD-FRA in United BusinessFirst connecting to FRA-FCO in Lufthansa Business, will be priced at the United mileage award amount.
- Note that this exception will not apply to a few specific regions and routings, such as intra-Africa connecting segments and certain fifth-freedom routes (e.g. BKK-KUL operated by Lufthansa)
Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. 3-Feb-2014
Nov 8, 2013, 9:53 am
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Nov 8, 2013, 10:02 am
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Thought on burning UA miles
Question. I need a o/w DFW-FRA-DXB in late February in First on LH... I want of course to take advantage of the low award mileage before the new one kicks in... Let's say I book a ticket on January 28th for Feb 10th... If I change on Feb 9th for my date of Feb 15th... would I still be charged the same amount of miles?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Nov 8, 2013, 11:26 am
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That is not true. Familiar with financial underwriting in the industry? Familiar with how credit card receivable securitization works? It appears not.
Nov 8, 2013, 11:32 am
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Anyone charges $10000 per month and pays off on time is valued highly by credit card companies.
Nov 8, 2013, 11:37 am
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Nov 8, 2013, 11:42 am
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One note - I would accept new changes if surcharges on partners are imposed on routes/destinations where UA does fly - UA wants you to fly on UA on NRT-SFO and not ANA, got it.
However, please let me know how I can redeem award flights on SIN-FRA, SIN-PVG, SIN-GRU, SIN-SYD on UA's metal and I'd be happy...
Now the main question is where to go...
Nov 8, 2013, 11:44 am
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Nov 8, 2013, 1:17 pm
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Nov 8, 2013, 3:11 pm
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Well I need to dump a couple of my annual pony up cc's. Thanks United for helping me figure out which accounts to close first.
Nov 8, 2013, 4:24 pm
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Not sure about this scenario:
If I book this trip in Dec. 2013: BKK-MUC-YYZ-ORD by TG F/LH J/UA J (one-way ticket and no stopovers), later on I found MUC-YYZ F availability from LH, and make changes accordingly after Feb. 2014, will more miles be collected? Thanks!
Nov 8, 2013, 5:27 pm
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Almost certainly, although I don't know that I've seen a specific answer to your question from UA.
Nov 8, 2013, 5:39 pm
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the credit card company makes tons of money off of all those transaction fees and never has to worry about the cardholder bailing on them. Steady profit stream if you ask me.
Nov 8, 2013, 6:05 pm
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As the parent of a kid who grew up with total disinterest in Disney but visited four continents by the time he was 12 thanks to FF programs, I object to this sort of cultural condescension. If you have ambitious family travel patterns this devaluation is a seismic event.
When I was a premier executive, I saved up for years to get four business class awards to SYD, and was able to so for a long trip May/June of 2003. I would have been pretty disappointed if UA had make this kind of hike right before a redemption.