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Old Aug 17, 2013, 10:44 am
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Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:

SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March

LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.

NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March

ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March

ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March

NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)

Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):

http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/

Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:

http://www.oag.com/Global
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[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014 [and other 747 route changes]

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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
ORD - FRA, ORD - PVG, ORD - NRT back to 744s that will route thru SFO.
Soooooo...what happened to that master plan to consolidate 747s at SFO?
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Originally Posted by kevanyalowitz
What type of 777?
sUA 777.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
Soooooo...what happened to that master plan to consolidate 747s at SFO?
This is what was communicated:

"Last year we decided to move all of this flying to SFO to improve the reliability of this fleet. Now that reliability has been restored, and we have a plan in place to better support the fleet, we can put the 747 on the routes that are better suited for the number of passengers the 747 carries."
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
Soooooo...what happened to that master plan to consolidate 747s at SFO?
They are consolidating at SFO. All 747 flights that are flying those ORD - NRT trips etc will begin/end at SFO. So fly SFO - FRA - ORD - NRT - SFO etc.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
They are consolidating at SFO. All 747 flights that are flying those ORD - NRT trips etc will begin/end at SFO. So fly SFO - FRA - ORD - NRT - SFO etc.
Right - but they still have a lot more "time" away from the SFO base than a basic SFO-FRA-SFO pairing...

Originally Posted by Cbmaz
This is what was communicated:

"Last year we decided to move all of this flying to SFO to improve the reliability of this fleet. Now that reliability has been restored, and we have a plan in place to better support the fleet, we can put the 747 on the routes that are better suited for the number of passengers the 747 carries."
...but there seems to be the answer
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
sUA 777.
If true, I have no problem with this change... ^
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:18 pm
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Too bad the 747 won't fly ORD-SFO. I miss that early ORS-SFO-NRT flight. 10AM.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by kevanyalowitz
If true, I have no problem with this change... ^
Downside, of course, will be the loss of premium seats. C drops to 40 (from 52), and F drops to 8 (from 12).
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
Downside, of course, will be the loss of premium seats. C drops to 40 (from 52), and F drops to 8 (from 12).
Sure, but it won't impact those flying full fare C and F tickets...and its better than 2-cabin any day.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:37 pm
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As several people stated above, those sUA 777s will have a huge payload restriction operating to SYD. Very surprised to hear this.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:46 pm
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Time to change the thread title?
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
SFO - KIX - From 777 & 747 to 787
Changes should be loaded and bookable this Saturday.
So the route is going from 2x daily to 1x? This is a massive capacity reduction if that is the case, or is the route alternating between 747/777 and will go to 787?

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As several people stated above, those sUA 777s will have a huge payload restriction operating to SYD. Very surprised to hear this.
Surprised to see this, sUA 777s are not designed or configured for flights of this length... Guess those who are adamant towards having an F cabin will get to enjoy frequent tech stops in HNL.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 8:53 pm
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Time to change the thread title?
We can all breathe a huge sigh of relief. sUA basically stays sUA, just remix.

Even though I flew the formerly last 747 out of ORD I congratulate ORD getting the queen back.

KIX is seemingly thinner so 787 isn't a bad option.

ORD-HKG no 747? The CX (airline not mechanical) effect?

Btw Thanks to Jose for the update. A pity you weren't on my NRT-SIN-NRT turns this summer.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 9:06 pm
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The sUA 777's should be OK now that they've been upgraded.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 9:12 pm
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UA used to run the 772 LAX-AKL with their de-rated pratts (and also was the longest 1-engine ETOPS diversion. I was always nervous flying that ETOPS 180 route.) Maybe a 787 will eventually show up on the route and tag out to OZ to increase lift. Nah...that would mean UA is restoring service...silly me.
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