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Old Nov 23, 2014, 3:59 pm
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Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers

Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"

Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"

Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer

Code:
Bag Manufacturer      Model                   Date Test Location Comment
Briggs & Riley        Baseline 20"            03/2014   IAH      boraxo
Briggs & Riley        Torq                    01/2014   CLE      lordhamster
Briggs & Riley        Transcend TU220XW-4     03/2014   COS      mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes. 
Briggs & Riley        U122CX                  01/2014   SNA      sakaike
Briggs & Riley        BU119 (BRX 19 upright)  05/2014   SMF      PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes:
Brookstone            Dash Office             01/2014   DSM      Fits OH E145/C200     
Eagle Creek           Hovercraft 22"          03/2014   CLT      Not stuffed full
eBags                 TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W  04/2014           swco-not overstuffed, just fit
Heys                  Xcase                   12/2013   LAX      abaheti
Int'l Paper           Safeway Grocery         02/2014   IAH      IAH-OIL-TRASH
Kirkland              Signature 21.5          12/2013   SFO
Red Oxx               Air Boss                02/2014   SFO      N1120A (loaded)
Red Oxx               Sky Train               01/2014   SFO      N1120A (loaded)
Ricardo of BevHills   Dash 20inch Dual        01/2014            Fredd
                        Wheel Spinner                            Costco @ $50-expandable
Rick Steves           Backpack                12/2013   LAX      LaserSailor
Rimowa                Limbo Cabin IATA        02/2014   SEA      MSY-MSP
Rimowa                Salsa Deluxe IATA       02/2014   SEA      MSY-MSP
Samsonite             Aspire Lite             03/2014   DEN     
Samsonite             Short-Lite 2-wheeled    12/2013   ORD      Lightest bag out there
Samsonite             Silhouette Sphere 21"   05/2014   BOS      Fits perfectly but very snugly
Tom Bihn              Aeronaut                03/2014            Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare
Travelite Delite      v 2.0                   02/2014   ORD      exbayern (bag full)
TravelPro             Crew 4 22"              08/2014   SFO      Not stuffed full
TravelPro             Crew 7 20"              12/2013   KWI      full - not expanded FriendlySkies
TravelPro             Crew 8 22"              11/2013   DFW      Not stuffed full
TravelPro             Crew 9 21" spinner      02/2014   ORD      ilovesprint not stuffed
TravelPro             FlightCrew3 22"         02/2014   BOS      Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing
TravelPro             FlightCrew4 20"         various            Not stuffed
TravelPro             Maxlite2 20in           12/2013   SFO      Expandable too
TravelPro             Maxlite2 22in           03/2014            Snug fit not stuffed
TravelPro             Maxlite3 21"            04/2014   EWR      EmileG - full, outside compartment empty
TravelPro             Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014   EWR      EmileG - full, outside compartment empty
TravelPro             Walkabout Lite 4        03/2014   IND      United747 - pretty empty bag to start with
TUMI Alpha            22922                   Many      FLL      DelrayChris
TUMI Alpha            28251 lw Continental    03/2014   EWR      lensman
TUMI Alpha 2          22021 Continental       04/2014   EWR      suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded
TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH         04/2014   SFO      Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1"
TUMI T-Tech           Int'l Carryon           04/2014            jeremiahsullivan
Victorinox            Avolve 22"              02/2014   SFO      MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty
Victorinox            Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20"   03/2014   ORD      gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare
Victorinox            WT 4.0 Duffel 21"       03/2014   ORD      gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer

Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"

Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer

Code:
Bag Manufacturer       Model                 Date Test Location Comment
Briggs & Riley         Verb VB414-4           03/2014   COS      mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ...
Case Logic             14" ZLCS-214           04/2014   EWR      Fly5x
eBags                  TLS Pro Slim Laptop    04/2014
                       Backpack EB2146-16
Everki                 Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014   ORD      gobluetwo
Skooba                 Satchel v3             02/2014   ORD      ilovesprint
Tom Bihn               Co-Pilot               03/2014   SFO      frankmu
Tom Bihn               Super Ego              03/2014   GRR      LufthansaFlyer
Tom Binh               Western Flyer          01/2014   DSM      when packed "right"
Waterfield             Cargo Large            01/2014   SFO      MrOCTeckels
LL Bean                North Ridge Backpack   04/2014   LAX      fgirard  Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside
Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers
Code:
Bag Manufacturer      Model                 Date Test Location Comment
Eagle Creek           Tarmac 20 wide        03/3014   AUS      Curvature on back increases width                                                                                        
Eagle Creek           Tarmac ES 22          03/2014            1/2 inch too tall
Gregory               Cache 22              03/2014   BOS      Cloudship
Timbuk2               Checkpoint Roller     12/2014   BOS      Cloudship
Tumi                  Alpha Backpack        03/2014   SEA      Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.
Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf

Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.

Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.

A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Under the 2013 contract of carriage, which is still valid for various tickets outstanding, the cabin baggage rule states a maximum of 45 linear inches combined for the LHW dimensions with no given side exceeding 22 inches. For such tickets, the cabin bag sizers are not lawfully applicable if the LHW combined linear inches don't exceed 45 linear inches and no side of the bag exceeds 22 inches. In other words for tickets issued last year, some bags allowed under the contract of carriage don't fit in the sizer without sticking out on at least one side.
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by morelegroom
On some occasions that might be me . DW is handicapped and I handle her bags. I got stopped once by a gate attendant, who did admit that the combination of two small rollers, a computer case and a lady's pocketbook should have tipped him off.
Isn't it amazing how you can spend your life in vain, thinking that others are cheating to get ahead of you, and finding out how your worries are in vain?

I'm thankful for my family, friends, health, and lastly my small wealth. Worrying about someone with two rollers ....meh.
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 10:49 am
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Has anyone tried the Victorinox CH22, the one with the single handle?
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Yesterday, UA1707, TPA-IAH there were several announcements pre-boarding about the sizers and the limit on the number of carry-ons. There were at least three announcements stating that if you were in Boarding Group 5 there would be no room for a rollaboard as the flight was full.

I boarded with Group 1 so don't know if anyone checked baggage or not. Towards the end of the boarding process one passenger went towards the back of the aircraft with a rollaboard which was at least 18 inches wide while another had a folding garment bag/luggage, both of which would not have fit the sizers.
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by morelegroom
On some occasions that might be me . DW is handicapped and I handle her bags. I got stopped once by a gate attendant, who did admit that the combination of two small rollers, a computer case and a lady's pocketbook should have tipped him off.
Yeah, I routinely handle her bags until we reach the plane itself. We've been stopped once on JAL, they forced a gate-check even when we explained that I was pulling her rollaboard.
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by morelegroom
On some occasions that might be me . DW is handicapped and I handle her bags. I got stopped once by a gate attendant, who did admit that the combination of two small rollers, a computer case and a lady's pocketbook should have tipped him off.
This has always been my belief about the explanation behind people seen with more bags than allowed. If I had a DW, girlfriend or my elderly father traveling with me, even if my companion was not handicapped, I would probably help them with their bags just to be a gentleman.

Personally, I always carry a CPAP. Rare is the occasion that I am not questioned at the door about why I have three bags. People bringing more than the 2 bags allowed on board are NOT a problem that needs to be addressed unless it is at the individual GA level.
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by KenInEscazu
Personally, I always carry a CPAP. Rare is the occasion that I am not questioned at the door about why I have three bags. People bringing more than the 2 bags allowed on board are NOT a problem that needs to be addressed unless it is at the individual GA level.
No to go too far off topic, but I am going to have to start doing this. I really dread it -- first trip is tomorrow (LAX - DEN, so no connections). How do you find traveling with it and are you really stopped every flight (I will hate that).

Thanks for any advice!
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 4:35 pm
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Better discussed here, please.


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ences-etc.html
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C3 red-coat at EWR was making everyone going through PreCheck lanes with a roller check it in a sizer. Pissing everyone off.

People going through other lines were unaffected. That is unfathomably stupid.
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Originally Posted by mgcsinc
C3 red-coat at EWR was making everyone going through PreCheck lanes with a roller check it in a sizer. Pissing everyone off.

People going through other lines were unaffected. That is unfathomably stupid.
Why not piss ff your most frequent customers? That's (Investor) Friendly!
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 5:42 pm
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Whopper of the day, brought to you by an EWR GA: "Don't bother trying to squeeze your bag into the sizer. The sizer is the same size as the bins, and if you have to squeeze it into the sizer you'll have to squeeze it into the bins. Pit must be checked."
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Why not piss ff your most frequent customers? That's (Investor) Friendly!
Aren't the red coats EWR employees? Are they only checking UA customers ?
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Aren't the red coats EWR employees? Are they only checking UA customers ?
Are there non-UA flights out of C?
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Aren't the red coats EWR employees? Are they only checking UA customers ?
I believe the contractor is now Allied-Barton.
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Originally Posted by mgcsinc
Are there non-UA flights out of C?
nope
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Old Mar 16, 2014, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by KenInEscazu
This is possibly the most well written, accurate post of this very long thread. My hat is off to you.

Not to correct you in any way, but to make an equally valid point, if my laptop bag goes under the seat in front of me, is that not much more important than having it fit in a sizer at the entrance to the jet bridge?

I have found my solution. It's going to cost me about $1000 in new bags that replace perfectly functional bags, one of which fits perfectly into the carry-on sizer. My current carry-on has a shoulder strap, and my laptop case, which is larger than the personal sizer, has wheels. I "can" carry both, but my back would suffer for three to four days after every flight. So I'm buying a new carry-on that has wheels, and a laptop case that will fit the sizer.

All of this is for what, exactly? For me, the decision to buy new bags is based on the fact that I know that I'll run into a GA who will be a "rules are rules" type, giving me a nightmare situation with my laptop, and I will never know when to expect it.

"If" UA figures out how to turn this into a profit source, all other domestic carriers are likely to follow suit. I'm not switching airlines this year, at least, so the $1000 is worth it to me. If OALs pick it up, then I'll be prepared (ostensibly). If not, well I'll have nice new bags that are easy to carry on board.
Thanks, Brother.

I hope that your solution works well for you and that you can continue to travel with what you need onboard without having to worry about your whether your computer bag and medical device(s), etc. fit in the "magic sizer".

I only hope that reason will eventually prevail and we can go to a policy where the standard is whether an item fits in the bin in the correct orientation or under the seat.

Good luck and safe travels!

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