Nov 23, 2014, 3:59 pm
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Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers
Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
Under the 2013 contract of carriage, which is still valid for various tickets outstanding, the cabin baggage rule states a maximum of 45 linear inches combined for the LHW dimensions with no given side exceeding 22 inches. For such tickets, the cabin bag sizers are not lawfully applicable if the LHW combined linear inches don't exceed 45 linear inches and no side of the bag exceeds 22 inches. In other words for tickets issued last year, some bags allowed under the contract of carriage don't fit in the sizer without sticking out on at least one side.
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Briggs & Riley Baseline 20" 03/2014 IAH boraxo Briggs & Riley Torq 01/2014 CLE lordhamster Briggs & Riley Transcend TU220XW-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes. Briggs & Riley U122CX 01/2014 SNA sakaike Briggs & Riley BU119 (BRX 19 upright) 05/2014 SMF PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes: Brookstone Dash Office 01/2014 DSM Fits OH E145/C200 Eagle Creek Hovercraft 22" 03/2014 CLT Not stuffed full eBags TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W 04/2014 swco-not overstuffed, just fit Heys Xcase 12/2013 LAX abaheti Int'l Paper Safeway Grocery 02/2014 IAH IAH-OIL-TRASH Kirkland Signature 21.5 12/2013 SFO Red Oxx Air Boss 02/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Red Oxx Sky Train 01/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Ricardo of BevHills Dash 20inch Dual 01/2014 Fredd Wheel Spinner Costco @ $50-expandable Rick Steves Backpack 12/2013 LAX LaserSailor Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Samsonite Aspire Lite 03/2014 DEN Samsonite Short-Lite 2-wheeled 12/2013 ORD Lightest bag out there Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 21" 05/2014 BOS Fits perfectly but very snugly Tom Bihn Aeronaut 03/2014 Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare Travelite Delite v 2.0 02/2014 ORD exbayern (bag full) TravelPro Crew 4 22" 08/2014 SFO Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 7 20" 12/2013 KWI full - not expanded FriendlySkies TravelPro Crew 8 22" 11/2013 DFW Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 9 21" spinner 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint not stuffed TravelPro FlightCrew3 22" 02/2014 BOS Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing TravelPro FlightCrew4 20" various Not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite2 20in 12/2013 SFO Expandable too TravelPro Maxlite2 22in 03/2014 Snug fit not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite3 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Lite 4 03/2014 IND United747 - pretty empty bag to start with TUMI Alpha 22922 Many FLL DelrayChris TUMI Alpha 28251 lw Continental 03/2014 EWR lensman TUMI Alpha 2 22021 Continental 04/2014 EWR suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH 04/2014 SFO Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1" TUMI T-Tech Int'l Carryon 04/2014 jeremiahsullivan Victorinox Avolve 22" 02/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty Victorinox Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare Victorinox WT 4.0 Duffel 21" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
Briggs & Riley Verb VB414-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ...
Case Logic 14" ZLCS-214 04/2014 EWR Fly5x
eBags TLS Pro Slim Laptop 04/2014
Backpack EB2146-16
Everki Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014 ORD gobluetwo
Skooba Satchel v3 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint
Tom Bihn Co-Pilot 03/2014 SFO frankmu
Tom Bihn Super Ego 03/2014 GRR LufthansaFlyer
Tom Binh Western Flyer 01/2014 DSM when packed "right"
Waterfield Cargo Large 01/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels
LL Bean North Ridge Backpack 04/2014 LAX fgirard Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Eagle Creek Tarmac 20 wide 03/3014 AUS Curvature on back increases width Eagle Creek Tarmac ES 22 03/2014 1/2 inch too tall Gregory Cache 22 03/2014 BOS Cloudship Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller 12/2014 BOS Cloudship Tumi Alpha Backpack 03/2014 SEA Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Items That Meets United's Sizer Box? Enforcement? [ARCHIVE]
Mar 13, 2014, 4:35 am
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I saw my first observation of the "strict enforcement". It was at PHL last night. Mainline plane heading to ORD. Extra staff on hand to do nothing but check carry on bag sizes.
Seemed to focus on rollerboards. Stood right at the podium and observed everyone boarding. Anything not fitting in the sizer was tagged as checked luggage. To my novice eye, seemed many of them would have fit into the overhead wheel first...as in, this wasn't helping anyone.
It was not my flight, so I didn't notice it until they were on group 3, so no data on how they handled GS/First Class/1K passengers.
My later flight (on United Express) was "normal". No one seemed interested in checking anything. No extra staff, anyway.
Seemed to focus on rollerboards. Stood right at the podium and observed everyone boarding. Anything not fitting in the sizer was tagged as checked luggage. To my novice eye, seemed many of them would have fit into the overhead wheel first...as in, this wasn't helping anyone.
It was not my flight, so I didn't notice it until they were on group 3, so no data on how they handled GS/First Class/1K passengers.
My later flight (on United Express) was "normal". No one seemed interested in checking anything. No extra staff, anyway.
Mar 13, 2014, 5:17 am
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Mar 13, 2014, 8:33 am
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I saw my first observation of the "strict enforcement". It was at PHL last night. Mainline plane heading to ORD. Extra staff on hand to do nothing but check carry on bag sizes.
Seemed to focus on rollerboards. Stood right at the podium and observed everyone boarding. Anything not fitting in the sizer was tagged as checked luggage. To my novice eye, seemed many of them would have fit into the overhead wheel first...as in, this wasn't helping anyone.
Seemed to focus on rollerboards. Stood right at the podium and observed everyone boarding. Anything not fitting in the sizer was tagged as checked luggage. To my novice eye, seemed many of them would have fit into the overhead wheel first...as in, this wasn't helping anyone.
I get that people think it's a revenue grab. I just think it's people who simply do not listen that ruin it for all, and this is UA's way of trying to cope with it.
Mar 13, 2014, 8:36 am
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If the latter, it's easy to just remove the tag before boarding and carry the bag on - if the former, then the bag is pretty much gone unless the passenger can somehow grab it back while boarding without being detected.
Mar 13, 2014, 8:43 am
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r a wheelchair is picked up at baggage claim.
Mar 13, 2014, 9:25 am
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I have yet to see any change in carry-on/boarding process after flights thru DEN, CVG, EWR, IAD and DXB. That to me is almost worse. Random enforcement means that I'll get lazy and let my roll on get a little paunchy and I'll be able to get it into the sizer, but not out.
Mar 13, 2014, 9:41 am
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Mar 13, 2014, 9:51 am
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Not where they were checked to - but did they tag the bag at the door then take it from passengers and hold it aside, or tell the passengers to leave it at the end of the jetway?
If the latter, it's easy to just remove the tag before boarding and carry the bag on - if the former, then the bag is pretty much gone unless the passenger can somehow grab it back while boarding without being detected.
If the latter, it's easy to just remove the tag before boarding and carry the bag on - if the former, then the bag is pretty much gone unless the passenger can somehow grab it back while boarding without being detected.
You weren't on SFO-EWR yesterday. I saw people ignore not just the GA, but the FAs as they walked on the plane (I was in 1B). The FAs begged a bunch of them to check, but no. And these were big bags. I think I counted 10 bags that had to be walked back (eventually). Delayed us at least 10 minutes.
I get that people think it's a revenue grab. I just think it's people who simply do not listen that ruin it for all, and this is UA's way of trying to cope with it.
I get that people think it's a revenue grab. I just think it's people who simply do not listen that ruin it for all, and this is UA's way of trying to cope with it.
But we have been through this many times on this thread
Mar 13, 2014, 10:22 am
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I reckon they are only sending emails to known offenders. I haven't got one yet.
ps. joke.
ps. joke.
Mar 13, 2014, 11:20 am
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No enforcement at all on either side of an SFO-SJD I just returned from. At SFO we walked up to the gate after boarding started and GA put gate check tags on our bags even as group 3 had just finished. When we got down the jetway there was a much more friendly GA running the show that told us to bring them on. Sure enough, there were a half dozen completely empty bins and space above row 7 for our bags. At that point it seemed like they completely abandoned gate checking. Even as boarding was nearly complete people were walking on with some truly mind-blowingly large "carry-on" rollerboards. Feeling pretty lucky to have went with an International-sized Tumi Alpha a year ago. Looking at switching to a backpack that fits under the seat for short trips.
Mar 13, 2014, 11:28 am
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This is interesting. Presumably, it's the only way to make this new enforcement actually work, but I'd think it would create a whole new problem of getting bags from there down the jetway. I wonder if they're using carts or something for that.
Mar 13, 2014, 2:46 pm
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No announcement on using sizer at Orlando today. They even have one at the gate.
FA has been making announcements to only put one bag in overhead.
FA has been making announcements to only put one bag in overhead.
Mar 13, 2014, 6:11 pm
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OK, professor, answer me this, is this deadheading or not?:My friend flies out-of-uniform, with a guaranteed seat, paid, to position for his pilot duties.
And, if a seat mate tells me he is a deadheading pilot, why wouldn't I believe him?
How am I to know if he is a non-rev or a commuter?
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Mar 13, 2014, 9:13 pm
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And, if a seat mate tells me he is a deadheading pilot, why wouldn't I believe him?
I will just tell you that deadheading happens far, far less often than it did in the past. It is less common because the airline crew scheduling has gotten better.
As to your DL friend, I suspect he is commuting--not deadheading.
How am I to know if he is a non-rev or a commuter?
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