Nov 23, 2014, 3:59 pm
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Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers
Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
Under the 2013 contract of carriage, which is still valid for various tickets outstanding, the cabin baggage rule states a maximum of 45 linear inches combined for the LHW dimensions with no given side exceeding 22 inches. For such tickets, the cabin bag sizers are not lawfully applicable if the LHW combined linear inches don't exceed 45 linear inches and no side of the bag exceeds 22 inches. In other words for tickets issued last year, some bags allowed under the contract of carriage don't fit in the sizer without sticking out on at least one side.
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Briggs & Riley Baseline 20" 03/2014 IAH boraxo Briggs & Riley Torq 01/2014 CLE lordhamster Briggs & Riley Transcend TU220XW-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes. Briggs & Riley U122CX 01/2014 SNA sakaike Briggs & Riley BU119 (BRX 19 upright) 05/2014 SMF PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes: Brookstone Dash Office 01/2014 DSM Fits OH E145/C200 Eagle Creek Hovercraft 22" 03/2014 CLT Not stuffed full eBags TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W 04/2014 swco-not overstuffed, just fit Heys Xcase 12/2013 LAX abaheti Int'l Paper Safeway Grocery 02/2014 IAH IAH-OIL-TRASH Kirkland Signature 21.5 12/2013 SFO Red Oxx Air Boss 02/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Red Oxx Sky Train 01/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Ricardo of BevHills Dash 20inch Dual 01/2014 Fredd Wheel Spinner Costco @ $50-expandable Rick Steves Backpack 12/2013 LAX LaserSailor Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Samsonite Aspire Lite 03/2014 DEN Samsonite Short-Lite 2-wheeled 12/2013 ORD Lightest bag out there Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 21" 05/2014 BOS Fits perfectly but very snugly Tom Bihn Aeronaut 03/2014 Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare Travelite Delite v 2.0 02/2014 ORD exbayern (bag full) TravelPro Crew 4 22" 08/2014 SFO Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 7 20" 12/2013 KWI full - not expanded FriendlySkies TravelPro Crew 8 22" 11/2013 DFW Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 9 21" spinner 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint not stuffed TravelPro FlightCrew3 22" 02/2014 BOS Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing TravelPro FlightCrew4 20" various Not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite2 20in 12/2013 SFO Expandable too TravelPro Maxlite2 22in 03/2014 Snug fit not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite3 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Lite 4 03/2014 IND United747 - pretty empty bag to start with TUMI Alpha 22922 Many FLL DelrayChris TUMI Alpha 28251 lw Continental 03/2014 EWR lensman TUMI Alpha 2 22021 Continental 04/2014 EWR suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH 04/2014 SFO Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1" TUMI T-Tech Int'l Carryon 04/2014 jeremiahsullivan Victorinox Avolve 22" 02/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty Victorinox Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare Victorinox WT 4.0 Duffel 21" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
Briggs & Riley Verb VB414-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ...
Case Logic 14" ZLCS-214 04/2014 EWR Fly5x
eBags TLS Pro Slim Laptop 04/2014
Backpack EB2146-16
Everki Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014 ORD gobluetwo
Skooba Satchel v3 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint
Tom Bihn Co-Pilot 03/2014 SFO frankmu
Tom Bihn Super Ego 03/2014 GRR LufthansaFlyer
Tom Binh Western Flyer 01/2014 DSM when packed "right"
Waterfield Cargo Large 01/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels
LL Bean North Ridge Backpack 04/2014 LAX fgirard Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside
Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Eagle Creek Tarmac 20 wide 03/3014 AUS Curvature on back increases width Eagle Creek Tarmac ES 22 03/2014 1/2 inch too tall Gregory Cache 22 03/2014 BOS Cloudship Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller 12/2014 BOS Cloudship Tumi Alpha Backpack 03/2014 SEA Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Items That Meets United's Sizer Box? Enforcement? [ARCHIVE]
Mar 17, 2014, 2:38 pm
#1517
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Mar 17, 2014, 2:41 pm
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Starting with post #160 in this thread is discussion of the B&R Baseline 20" Widebody vs. UA sizers.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ellers-11.html
TL;DR - The width makes this bag stick out the top of the sizer, but it is still technically within the total linear dimensions since it's a shorter bag.
Since I was just asking the question and haven't actually flown UA with this bag recently, I'm hesitant to add to the wiki, but wanted to at least leave the reference here for anyone interested.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ellers-11.html
TL;DR - The width makes this bag stick out the top of the sizer, but it is still technically within the total linear dimensions since it's a shorter bag.
Since I was just asking the question and haven't actually flown UA with this bag recently, I'm hesitant to add to the wiki, but wanted to at least leave the reference here for anyone interested.
Mar 17, 2014, 2:41 pm
#1519
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Mar 17, 2014, 3:20 pm
#1520
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Yes the bag failed the sizer. I looked at it when she got home and it was not overstuffed and in fact was the smallest bag we have. She probably could have worked it into the sizer but didn't want to hold up the line. Waiting for her bag for 20 minutes at 345 am on a flight that was 3 hours late to begin with did not leave her humming the united Gershwin theme.
Incidentally, I looked and found references to bag sizes going back to 2001-2005 (luggage store airline tables), and in every one I found both United and Continental were listed as 22x14x9, so the published size isn't new (I do understand the CoC may have only called out the total linear dimension until recently)
Mar 17, 2014, 4:13 pm
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This is possibly the most well written, accurate post of this very long thread. My hat is off to you.
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"If" UA figures out how to turn this into a profit source, all other domestic carriers are likely to follow suit. I'm not switching airlines this year, at least, so the $1000 is worth it to me. If OALs pick it up, then I'll be prepared (ostensibly). If not, well I'll have nice new bags that are easy to carry on board.
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"If" UA figures out how to turn this into a profit source, all other domestic carriers are likely to follow suit. I'm not switching airlines this year, at least, so the $1000 is worth it to me. If OALs pick it up, then I'll be prepared (ostensibly). If not, well I'll have nice new bags that are easy to carry on board.
I've spent hours of time in the last two weeks (online and at brick/mortar stores)... for a personal item that protects laptops and meets these dimensions... they do not exist. And a backpack personal item (which is what I need) is even more troublesome.
Some come close...but no cigar. The common sin, is the 11" side (which is normally the "side" that doesn't succumb to "over-stuffing", but could cause a GA to tell you "sorry, that doesn't fit in the sizer"). I have found no personal item bag that is made for laptops that is 11" or less... whether it's a shoulder bag or backpack.
If anyone has, get back to me.
Mar 17, 2014, 4:20 pm
#1523
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Agree. But if you are shopping for a "personal item" carry-on bag that protects a laptop.. that meets even the actual sizer dimensions of 9"x11"x18"... good luck.
I've spent hours of time in the last two weeks (online and at brick/mortar stores)... for a personal item that protects laptops and meets these dimensions... they do not exist. And a backpack personal item (which is what I need) is even more troublesome.
Some come close...but no cigar. The common sin, is the 11" side (which is normally the "side" that doesn't succumb to "over-stuffing", but could cause a GA to tell you "sorry, that doesn't fit in the sizer"). I have found no personal item bag that is made for laptops that is 11" or less... whether it's a shoulder bag or backpack.
If anyone has, get back to me.
I've spent hours of time in the last two weeks (online and at brick/mortar stores)... for a personal item that protects laptops and meets these dimensions... they do not exist. And a backpack personal item (which is what I need) is even more troublesome.
Some come close...but no cigar. The common sin, is the 11" side (which is normally the "side" that doesn't succumb to "over-stuffing", but could cause a GA to tell you "sorry, that doesn't fit in the sizer"). I have found no personal item bag that is made for laptops that is 11" or less... whether it's a shoulder bag or backpack.
If anyone has, get back to me.
Mar 17, 2014, 4:26 pm
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These personal item carry-on dimension rules were clearly made by idiots. Probably by some bean counter at a desk in Chicago... who never flies the airline in which he/she works for...
Mar 17, 2014, 4:33 pm
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I have yet to be asked to size either my rollerboard (which I think will not fit as being to fat) or personal item. But I have been seeing a few people get "sized" since this new policy kick. They were gross violators though.
Mar 17, 2014, 4:56 pm
#1526
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Agree. But if you are shopping for a "personal item" carry-on bag that protects a laptop.. that meets even the actual sizer dimensions of 9"x11"x18"... good luck.
I've spent hours of time in the last two weeks (online and at brick/mortar stores)... for a personal item that protects laptops and meets these dimensions... they do not exist. And a backpack personal item (which is what I need) is even more troublesome.
Some come close...but no cigar. The common sin, is the 11" side (which is normally the "side" that doesn't succumb to "over-stuffing", but could cause a GA to tell you "sorry, that doesn't fit in the sizer"). I have found no personal item bag that is made for laptops that is 11" or less... whether it's a shoulder bag or backpack.
If anyone has, get back to me.
I've spent hours of time in the last two weeks (online and at brick/mortar stores)... for a personal item that protects laptops and meets these dimensions... they do not exist. And a backpack personal item (which is what I need) is even more troublesome.
Some come close...but no cigar. The common sin, is the 11" side (which is normally the "side" that doesn't succumb to "over-stuffing", but could cause a GA to tell you "sorry, that doesn't fit in the sizer"). I have found no personal item bag that is made for laptops that is 11" or less... whether it's a shoulder bag or backpack.
If anyone has, get back to me.
I really doubt that UA will stop anyone from carrying on a personal size bag that extends above the sizer by and inch or two as long as the bag is not very thick. The moment they become completely unreasonable about sizers of personal briefcases I would elect to stop flying this airline. Most of us have other choices.
Mar 17, 2014, 5:16 pm
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good point. And while I am not an "anal" person... I try to follow rules. I don't want surprises. My time is too valuable. I do my best to comply.
These personal item carry-on dimension rules were clearly made by idiots. Probably by some bean counter at a desk in Chicago... who never flies the airline in which he/she works for...
These personal item carry-on dimension rules were clearly made by idiots. Probably by some bean counter at a desk in Chicago... who never flies the airline in which he/she works for...
Mar 17, 2014, 10:36 pm
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New United Carry-On Sizer and Enforcement of Policy (eff. 1 March 2014)
Yet another reason not to fly via EWR! Thankfully most of my connections run via IAH,FRA or ORD. And very happy that I bought PS to JFK, which was cheaper as well.
Mar 18, 2014, 12:53 am
#1529
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Assuming that UA wants to cater to business travellers, you'd think that that bean counter might consider just *what* a biz traveller would carry, esp the 15-inch laptop dilema that appears to be a recent topic in this thread. QED: there *should* be a personal item criterion with enuf flexibility to accomodate such a laptop. BTW, I carry a 13-inch Mac Air in a padded Briggs & Reilly bag that's technically a tad too tall, but it does squish to meet the sizer.
Reasonable stuff is going to get on the plane, obviously oversize stuff isn't. The whole exercise is an effort to get a few more bags in the hold which is good for United and the on time departure stats at the margins but isn't going to have any impact at all on anyone on this site, IMHO.
Mar 18, 2014, 5:13 am
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LHR-SFO, 3/17, no checking of luggage when I boarded in group 1.