Nov 23, 2014, 3:59 pm
Last edit by: Cloudship
Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers
Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
Under the 2013 contract of carriage, which is still valid for various tickets outstanding, the cabin baggage rule states a maximum of 45 linear inches combined for the LHW dimensions with no given side exceeding 22 inches. For such tickets, the cabin bag sizers are not lawfully applicable if the LHW combined linear inches don't exceed 45 linear inches and no side of the bag exceeds 22 inches. In other words for tickets issued last year, some bags allowed under the contract of carriage don't fit in the sizer without sticking out on at least one side.
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Briggs & Riley Baseline 20" 03/2014 IAH boraxo Briggs & Riley Torq 01/2014 CLE lordhamster Briggs & Riley Transcend TU220XW-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes. Briggs & Riley U122CX 01/2014 SNA sakaike Briggs & Riley BU119 (BRX 19 upright) 05/2014 SMF PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes: Brookstone Dash Office 01/2014 DSM Fits OH E145/C200 Eagle Creek Hovercraft 22" 03/2014 CLT Not stuffed full eBags TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W 04/2014 swco-not overstuffed, just fit Heys Xcase 12/2013 LAX abaheti Int'l Paper Safeway Grocery 02/2014 IAH IAH-OIL-TRASH Kirkland Signature 21.5 12/2013 SFO Red Oxx Air Boss 02/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Red Oxx Sky Train 01/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Ricardo of BevHills Dash 20inch Dual 01/2014 Fredd Wheel Spinner Costco @ $50-expandable Rick Steves Backpack 12/2013 LAX LaserSailor Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Samsonite Aspire Lite 03/2014 DEN Samsonite Short-Lite 2-wheeled 12/2013 ORD Lightest bag out there Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 21" 05/2014 BOS Fits perfectly but very snugly Tom Bihn Aeronaut 03/2014 Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare Travelite Delite v 2.0 02/2014 ORD exbayern (bag full) TravelPro Crew 4 22" 08/2014 SFO Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 7 20" 12/2013 KWI full - not expanded FriendlySkies TravelPro Crew 8 22" 11/2013 DFW Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 9 21" spinner 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint not stuffed TravelPro FlightCrew3 22" 02/2014 BOS Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing TravelPro FlightCrew4 20" various Not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite2 20in 12/2013 SFO Expandable too TravelPro Maxlite2 22in 03/2014 Snug fit not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite3 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Lite 4 03/2014 IND United747 - pretty empty bag to start with TUMI Alpha 22922 Many FLL DelrayChris TUMI Alpha 28251 lw Continental 03/2014 EWR lensman TUMI Alpha 2 22021 Continental 04/2014 EWR suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH 04/2014 SFO Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1" TUMI T-Tech Int'l Carryon 04/2014 jeremiahsullivan Victorinox Avolve 22" 02/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty Victorinox Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare Victorinox WT 4.0 Duffel 21" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
Briggs & Riley Verb VB414-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ...
Case Logic 14" ZLCS-214 04/2014 EWR Fly5x
eBags TLS Pro Slim Laptop 04/2014
Backpack EB2146-16
Everki Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014 ORD gobluetwo
Skooba Satchel v3 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint
Tom Bihn Co-Pilot 03/2014 SFO frankmu
Tom Bihn Super Ego 03/2014 GRR LufthansaFlyer
Tom Binh Western Flyer 01/2014 DSM when packed "right"
Waterfield Cargo Large 01/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels
LL Bean North Ridge Backpack 04/2014 LAX fgirard Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside
Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Eagle Creek Tarmac 20 wide 03/3014 AUS Curvature on back increases width Eagle Creek Tarmac ES 22 03/2014 1/2 inch too tall Gregory Cache 22 03/2014 BOS Cloudship Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller 12/2014 BOS Cloudship Tumi Alpha Backpack 03/2014 SEA Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Items That Meets United's Sizer Box? Enforcement? [ARCHIVE]
Mar 22, 2014, 7:50 pm
#1637
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: GRR, USA
Posts: 3,298
Oh I went back.....I like hanging my personal item bag off a 2 wheel trolley and dragging it behind me. An old habit that won't die. Besides, I always fear that 4 exposed wheels will no doubt break off at some point if gate checked.
Mar 22, 2014, 8:41 pm
#1638
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 8,634
Second, I (and others) completely disagree that it's honest to promulgate one's own rule, get it blessed by the FAA, and then blame the FAA for the rule. Which is what's happening. It's dishonest and disgusting.
And the whole the-employees-don't-know-better argument is BS. UA should train them not to say things that are dishonest.
It's the Dulles sizer situation all over again.
Mar 23, 2014, 5:06 am
#1639
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AADULtArer
Posts: 5,697
I just don't see the advantage of the spinner wheels. Maneuverability? Are we in a dogfight with a Zero? I want pure line speed for when I'm trying to be first in line at customs or I need to bust tail to get to the high RJ gates in DEN because I've been trying to get $400 bucks in cheese out of the UC.
Speed and stability first.
Speed and stability first.
They did make great music in the 60s
Mar 23, 2014, 8:18 am
#1640
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Mass
Programs: Independent
Posts: 4,829
Torque effect. You are not pushing on the center line, so you always have to give it a little twist to keep it in line. And as soon as you hit a change in surface - going from hard floor to carpet - you end up pushing the bag over because of the extra resistance.
Mar 23, 2014, 10:34 am
#1641
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: Hotels.com WR Silver ;)
Posts: 240
Spinners work great on a perfectly flat smooth floor. Try taking one from the TBIT to T7 at LAX and then tell me if you still like them.
Mar 23, 2014, 10:46 am
#1642
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 422
yes still like them TBIT to T7
Mar 23, 2014, 10:49 am
#1643
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,172
Mar 23, 2014, 11:08 am
#1644
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: CO
Programs: UA OG-1K, Marriott Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,360
Four wheels good, two wheels bad
Four wheels good, two wheels bad
Four wheels good, two wheels bad
Four wheels good, two wheels bad
Four wheels good, two wheels bad
Four wheels good, two wheels bad
Four wheels good, two wheels bad
Mar 23, 2014, 11:20 am
#1645
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 8,634
People toting a spinner next to them look like they're walking a dog.
Mar 23, 2014, 3:12 pm
#1646
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: London; Bangkok; Las Vegas
Programs: AA Exec Plat; UA MM Gold; Marriott Lifetime Titanium; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 8,745
Regarding the slightly off topic spinner debate: I like them because they basically take 100% of the weight of the bag so with good wheels they are easier to pull/push. Also takes much more of the weight of my briefcase/backpack when I put it on top.
Regarding the slightly off topic arguing about why we have to do this debate: I view this argument as either senseless or cathartic. The new deal is what it is. The question is how to live with it or, as some seem to be proposing, gaming the system. I'm not against that as I think my bags may not pass the "meniscus" test but unless the gate agent bends over or uses a straight edge to check for level, I don't think it will be an issue. Please post if you see either of these types of behavior from the GAs.
Regarding the slightly off topic arguing about why we have to do this debate: I view this argument as either senseless or cathartic. The new deal is what it is. The question is how to live with it or, as some seem to be proposing, gaming the system. I'm not against that as I think my bags may not pass the "meniscus" test but unless the gate agent bends over or uses a straight edge to check for level, I don't think it will be an issue. Please post if you see either of these types of behavior from the GAs.
For a check-in bag? Forget it. I had a wheel broken off on two separate occasions on a Rimowa bag.
Mar 23, 2014, 3:12 pm
#1647
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: GRR, USA
Posts: 3,298
And they take up an extra 'lane' when walking in already congested terminals....where as my 2-wheeler is mostly behind me and then I try to clip the 4 wheeler as I pass by.... 
Can you tell I'm watching a car race at the moment?
Can you tell I'm watching a car race at the moment?
Mar 23, 2014, 5:56 pm
#1648
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NJ EWR
Programs: UA*S GE
Posts: 23
I have interest in this forum mainly to be advised/read up on the "crackdown" by UA. This coming Friday it will be my first trip, since the (infamous) crackdown.
If there is any one out there that tested the TravelPro Platinum Magna 22" rollaboard in the UA's sizer please let me know/please post your findings.
If I see some one at EWR with it, I will not be shy, I will ask to see for myself it it fits and post the results. (maybe even with a pic or 2)
TravelPro customer service department refuses to provide me that (top secret) information.
p.s. I will choose my word carefully for this modified quote/paraphrase I heard from an old wise man, " If it has bosoms or wheels, sooner or later, your will have problem with it"
Mar 23, 2014, 6:01 pm
#1649
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: GRR, USA
Posts: 3,298
What else are bored 'type-A's ' going to do?
You also mentioned that your reasons were personal preference? Since you're new to FT, you'll find out sooner than later that you will be told what your preferences are and that anything you think to the contrary is wrong! Welcome to the Friendly skies, er FT.
You also mentioned that your reasons were personal preference? Since you're new to FT, you'll find out sooner than later that you will be told what your preferences are and that anything you think to the contrary is wrong!
Welcome to the Friendly skies, er FT.
Mar 23, 2014, 6:01 pm
#1650
Join Date: May 2003
Location: At This Point, Only G*d Knows!
Posts: 3,467
Got off the phone with my Dad and apparently it is the Maroon Coats (aka security guards) at EWR who are enforcing the new size requirements, but the odd parts was only the Maroon Coat checking the TSAPre line was.
He was sending people back left and right, he attempted to send my Dad back but my Father just scanned his BP on the scanner, the scanner made its the three beeps and off he went. The Maroon Coat followed him all the way up to the TSA Employee yelling you must go back and check your bag.
At which point he told the TSA Employee that my Dad must check his bag to which the TSA Employee responded no he doesn't unless he has something that is not allowed past the checkpoint and even then if he is willing to surrender the item, he can take his bag with him. The TSA Employee went on saying I told you (the Maroon Coat) twice now to stay at the entrance to line, you have no power over here and if you come over here again I am going to report you to your superiors.
So apparently the Maroon Coats (or at least that one) are attempting to enforcing the new rules.
Dan
He was sending people back left and right, he attempted to send my Dad back but my Father just scanned his BP on the scanner, the scanner made its the three beeps and off he went. The Maroon Coat followed him all the way up to the TSA Employee yelling you must go back and check your bag.
At which point he told the TSA Employee that my Dad must check his bag to which the TSA Employee responded no he doesn't unless he has something that is not allowed past the checkpoint and even then if he is willing to surrender the item, he can take his bag with him. The TSA Employee went on saying I told you (the Maroon Coat) twice now to stay at the entrance to line, you have no power over here and if you come over here again I am going to report you to your superiors.
So apparently the Maroon Coats (or at least that one) are attempting to enforcing the new rules.
Dan