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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by jghassell
[LIST][*]Within 24 hours or perhaps until midnight on Monday, I would have let it go. That's their customer policy and no reason it shouldn't be a two-way street.
I fully agree. I actually went to bed Sunday night expecting to wake up Monday morning to find the reservation had magically disappeared. Pretty much the same Monday night (I went to bed before Shannon's post telling us we'd be contacted).
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:30 am
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If UA gets out of the mess and doesn't have to honour the tickets can KE make a claim of unfair treatment?
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by Shanye2233
If UA gets out of the mess and doesn't have to honour the tickets can KE make a claim of unfair treatment?
Probably not, because government regulators have discretion.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by GMUJD06
Can we please stop having the stealing/unethical/immoral back and forth. Its been over three days now. I think everyone's positions are clear. Those who got in didn't wander into grandma's unlocked house and steal her pearls while she was at church baking apple pies for the homeless. United chose to go with a crappy IT system, and it bit them in the butt.

But in all seriousness, everyone's views on the morality question are quite entrenched. Let's move on.
^^ totally agreed. for me it's a 2-way street : if mom-n-pop store has customer-friendly policies, i might cut them some slack once in a while.

but for a multi-billion corp designed to maximize shareholder profit and create traps and fees all around the customer, i have no qualms returning the favor

to quote queen latifah in "Chicago" - when you're good to ma-ma ... ma-ma's good ... to .... you
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by chasingthedream
...I don't understand why the new management is choosing to alienate their most loyal customers.
If I were UA management I would find it very hard to comprehend the notion that my "most loyal customers" were the ones who take gleeful pride in taking advantage of a regrettable but honest mistake.

In fact, I find it hard to comprehend how I or anyone who runs a business - and I'm sure there are more than a few on this discussion who do so - should somehow prefer doing business with those who would gladly hurt me instead of those who seek to conduct their business relationships according to how they would want to be treated.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by Shanye2233
If UA gets out of the mess and doesn't have to honour the tickets can KE make a claim of unfair treatment?
Only if they're senior citizens.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by jghassell
  • Within 24 hours or perhaps until midnight on Monday, I would have let it go. That's their customer policy and no reason it shouldn't be a two-way street.
  • After 24 hours, I consider the minimum now the change/redeposit fee I as a customer would have been charged if I had made a mistake. They make you pay that in new fresh money, too, so I'm not sure that's uncalled for here either? Again, their policy, it should work both ways.

I've been stung by UA's rules and inflexibility many times over the years, so I don't have a lot of compassion now. But yes, I would have let it go on Monday, no questions asked.
That's what is so odd about this whole thing. Had the tickets been cancelled immediately, or on Monday, I would've shrugged it off (full disclosure: no matter what happens, I still have no plans to sue or file a complaint). But after so much time, and so many flying, I can't help but wonder what's going on. Maybe UA has decided they'll let us fly, but we'll have it sweat it out wondering if we'll make it home.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by cblaisd
In fact, I find it hard to comprehend how I or anyone who runs a business - and I'm sure there are more than a few on this discussion who do so - should somehow prefer doing business with those who would gladly hurt me instead of those who seek to conduct their business relationships according to how they would want to be treated.
More of the same jealousy from someone who clearly didn't book a ticket and is now upset that his status on United is devalued as a result. When United starts letting me cancel all my tickets four days after it has been ticketed and booked, I will start showing them the same regard. Until then, I expect them to honor my ticket or possibly face whatever a DOT fine, if the DOT follows its own clearly stated rules.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by cblaisd
If I were UA management I would find it very hard to comprehend the notion that my "most loyal customers" were the ones who take gleeful pride in taking advantage of a regrettable but honest mistake.
OTOH, if you were UA management, perhaps you'd have conducted your business with an eye toward customer "friendly" policies. As opposed - for example - to policies designed and implemented when one's customers don't have a choice. Think CLE. Or IAH. Or GUM.

Does that help????

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JFTR: I do NOT have any tickets to HKG - or anywhere else for that matter - that are priced at anything less than UA's asking rate.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by cblaisd
If I were UA management I would find it very hard to comprehend the notion that my "most loyal customers" were the ones who take gleeful pride in taking advantage of a regrettable but honest mistake.

In fact, I find it hard to comprehend how I or anyone who runs a business - and I'm sure there are more than a few on this discussion who do so - should somehow prefer doing business with those who would gladly hurt me instead of those who seek to conduct their business relationships according to how they would want to be treated.
So you've never flown a mistake fare then?
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:57 am
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In fact, I find it hard to comprehend how I or anyone who runs a business - and I'm sure there are more than a few on this discussion who do so - should somehow prefer doing business with those who would gladly hurt me instead of those who seek to conduct their business relationships according to how they would want to be treated.
there's a 2 way street though; $misek has gleefully stomped on the long term loyalty of customers; through the changes to the million miler program and the elite program itself. Selling upgrades out from under elites for cents on the dollar , etc. These "changes we'll like" violate the rules of the game as set out by United/Continental.

IF they do decide in the end to cancel these tickets, it'll be just one more signal that United cares only about the today's bottom line and not long-term profit.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by cblaisd
If I were UA management I would find it very hard to comprehend the notion that my "most loyal customers" were the ones who take gleeful pride in taking advantage of a regrettable but honest mistake.

In fact, I find it hard to comprehend how I or anyone who runs a business - and I'm sure there are more than a few on this discussion who do so - should somehow prefer doing business with those who would gladly hurt me instead of those who seek to conduct their business relationships according to how they would want to be treated.
From the casino perspective, every one of your loyal customers would gladly hurt you financially! That's the whole point. But guess what? The last thing a casino wants is for someone to hurt them (win big) and then leave...... they know that over time, the odds are in their favor. All they have to is keep the customer coming back, and eventually they win.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 8:08 am
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what a drama

UA should have cancelled all the 4 mile tickets on Monday. Personally I think the whole “honor error fare” is nonsense, plus it will set a bad example for the future. What UA needs to do right now is improving its service and performance, not rewarding greedy. People attracted to here because of error fares will normally show no-loyalty to UA. They will hope the mistakes keep coming and each time they will jump in with no mercy. On the other hand, the potential revenue passengers may end up with no seat to buy or think twice before purchase since UA ticket can be obtained at zero cost.

By the way, I am also in the game, bought 1 RT on Sunday. Maybe greedy is indeed part of human nature like others said. I just so sad today America gives so many opportunities to people to release such nature, from wall-street to main-street.

Oh, forget to add, For UA elite member, don’t be silly to think it’s a good revenge time. The current UA management team will not swallow the cost peacefully. You may see further benefit cuts in near future.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by chasingthedream
I don't understand why the new management is choosing to alienate their most loyal customers.
I don't understand why you believe that this mistake has much to do with UA's most loyal customers.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 8:11 am
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Would or Could UA Do this

Just leave us forever hanging in the breeze and never give us an answer? If nobody actually files a complaint with the DOT because of an "action" taken by UA, then UA just keeps us guessing until our flight time. Or is the DOT compelled at this point to issue a ruling on their investigation?

I'm assuming no one has filed an official complaint at this point. Has anyone?
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