Does United comply with the IATA interline Most Significant Carrier baggage fee rule?
Jul 24, 2013, 1:30 pm
#91
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Thanks.
I havent made the reservation yet, because I want to avoid additional fees...
So we agree, that most likely UA rules will apply. Since this is an international ticket, which rules will apply? UA international economy rules? UA international business rules (as the highest class in the trip is a C-award) or UA domestic Y rules (no free bag?)
Thanks.
Futhermore I will have 2 layovers of 22 hrs each. Is this a problem for baggage interlining? I fear that I might have to pay domestic Y baggage check fee twice (in LAX and in CLE) in the worst case (if interlining is not possible for connections that long)
I havent made the reservation yet, because I want to avoid additional fees...
So we agree, that most likely UA rules will apply. Since this is an international ticket, which rules will apply? UA international economy rules? UA international business rules (as the highest class in the trip is a C-award) or UA domestic Y rules (no free bag?)
Thanks.
Futhermore I will have 2 layovers of 22 hrs each. Is this a problem for baggage interlining? I fear that I might have to pay domestic Y baggage check fee twice (in LAX and in CLE) in the worst case (if interlining is not possible for connections that long)
Jul 24, 2013, 1:42 pm
#92
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yes, but the change fee might be more expensive for 2 pax than the checked baggage fee :-)
Jul 24, 2013, 1:57 pm
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Jul 24, 2013, 2:04 pm
#94
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Read the rule: http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/EAP...-2012final.pdf
Pg 34, point 35.
And also on FT before:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18518397-post7.html
Pg 34, point 35.
And also on FT before:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18518397-post7.html
Jul 24, 2013, 2:08 pm
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Read the rule: http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/EAP...-2012final.pdf
Pg 34, point 35.
And also on FT before:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18518397-post7.html
Pg 34, point 35.
And also on FT before:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18518397-post7.html
Jul 24, 2013, 6:34 pm
#96
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Read the rule: http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/EAP...-2012final.pdf
Pg 34, point 35.
And also on FT before:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18518397-post7.html
Pg 34, point 35.
And also on FT before:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18518397-post7.html
Jul 25, 2013, 9:54 am
#97
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So we agree, that most likely UA rules will apply. Since this is an international ticket, which rules will apply? UA international economy rules? UA international business rules (as the highest class in the trip is a C-award) or UA domestic Y rules (no free bag?)
Thanks.
Futhermore I will have 2 layovers of 22 hrs each. Is this a problem for baggage interlining? I fear that I might have to pay domestic Y baggage check fee twice (in LAX and in CLE) in the worst case (if interlining is not possible for connections that long)
Thanks.
Futhermore I will have 2 layovers of 22 hrs each. Is this a problem for baggage interlining? I fear that I might have to pay domestic Y baggage check fee twice (in LAX and in CLE) in the worst case (if interlining is not possible for connections that long)
Aug 11, 2013, 5:01 pm
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Baggage question-Middle East
When flying from DFW to Jeddah with Lufthansa we got 2 bags per person but when checking Lufthansa website I read this.Applies only to flights to/from destination airports served by Lufthansa in the United States (Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Charlotte, New York, Washington, Boston, Philadelphia, Detroit, Miami and Orlando) and only for routes via Europe. Applies to the whole journey regardless of stopovers. So we are traveling back to DFW so the same rule would apply correct? When I look at my reservation on the United webpage it says first bag is free then the second is 75 Euros. Which one is correct?
Aug 12, 2013, 12:40 pm
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When flying from DFW to Jeddah with Lufthansa we got 2 bags per person but when checking Lufthansa website I read this.Applies only to flights to/from destination airports served by Lufthansa in the United States (Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Charlotte, New York, Washington, Boston, Philadelphia, Detroit, Miami and Orlando) and only for routes via Europe. Applies to the whole journey regardless of stopovers. So we are traveling back to DFW so the same rule would apply correct? When I look at my reservation on the United webpage it says first bag is free then the second is 75 Euros. Which one is correct?
Oct 22, 2013, 3:29 pm
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Hope you folks can help me clarify baggage allowance on the following:
Flying in Y, will be a Premier Gold when travelling
Outbound YYZ-EWR-SFO-HKG
Inbound HKG-NRT-IAD-YYZ
Inbound HKG-NRT is a UA codeshare operated by Air Japan (now that UA doesn't operate HKG-NRT). Air Japan is a subsidiary of ANA, and uses ANA's NH code. However, technically (as per UA Premier Line) Air Japan is not part of the Star Alliance.
ANA web site says Y class 1@50lb, but the *G benefits, IF APPLICABLE, will bring that up to 2@50lb. Premier Gold gets 3@70lb. This is a revenue ticket, ticketed and booked by UA, with the check-in segment a UA codeshare.
United website shows when plugging in my confirmation 3@70lb outbound, and 1@50lb inbound, but when you check the additional baggage box, it shows 3rd bag at $0.
United Premier Line (and web site) says 1@50lb. ANA customer service line says *G applies.
Do I get 1@50lb, 2@50lb or 3@70lb?
Clear as mud.
TIA.
Flying in Y, will be a Premier Gold when travelling
Outbound YYZ-EWR-SFO-HKG
Inbound HKG-NRT-IAD-YYZ
Inbound HKG-NRT is a UA codeshare operated by Air Japan (now that UA doesn't operate HKG-NRT). Air Japan is a subsidiary of ANA, and uses ANA's NH code. However, technically (as per UA Premier Line) Air Japan is not part of the Star Alliance.
ANA web site says Y class 1@50lb, but the *G benefits, IF APPLICABLE, will bring that up to 2@50lb. Premier Gold gets 3@70lb. This is a revenue ticket, ticketed and booked by UA, with the check-in segment a UA codeshare.
United website shows when plugging in my confirmation 3@70lb outbound, and 1@50lb inbound, but when you check the additional baggage box, it shows 3rd bag at $0.
United Premier Line (and web site) says 1@50lb. ANA customer service line says *G applies.
Do I get 1@50lb, 2@50lb or 3@70lb?
Clear as mud.
TIA.
Last edited by vkykam; Oct 22, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Oct 23, 2013, 9:41 am
#102
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Hope you folks can help me clarify baggage allowance on the following:
Flying in Y, will be a Premier Gold when travelling
Outbound YYZ-EWR-SFO-HKG
Inbound HKG-NRT-IAD-YYZ
Inbound HKG-NRT is a UA codeshare operated by Air Japan (now that UA doesn't operate HKG-NRT). Air Japan is a subsidiary of ANA, and uses ANA's NH code. However, technically (as per UA Premier Line) Air Japan is not part of the Star Alliance.
ANA web site says Y class 1@50lb, but the *G benefits, IF APPLICABLE, will bring that up to 2@50lb. Premier Gold gets 3@70lb. This is a revenue ticket, ticketed and booked by UA, with the check-in segment a UA codeshare.
United website shows when plugging in my confirmation 3@70lb outbound, and 1@50lb inbound, but when you check the additional baggage box, it shows 3rd bag at $0.
United Premier Line (and web site) says 1@50lb. ANA customer service line says *G applies.
Do I get 1@50lb, 2@50lb or 3@70lb?
Clear as mud.
TIA.
Flying in Y, will be a Premier Gold when travelling
Outbound YYZ-EWR-SFO-HKG
Inbound HKG-NRT-IAD-YYZ
Inbound HKG-NRT is a UA codeshare operated by Air Japan (now that UA doesn't operate HKG-NRT). Air Japan is a subsidiary of ANA, and uses ANA's NH code. However, technically (as per UA Premier Line) Air Japan is not part of the Star Alliance.
ANA web site says Y class 1@50lb, but the *G benefits, IF APPLICABLE, will bring that up to 2@50lb. Premier Gold gets 3@70lb. This is a revenue ticket, ticketed and booked by UA, with the check-in segment a UA codeshare.
United website shows when plugging in my confirmation 3@70lb outbound, and 1@50lb inbound, but when you check the additional baggage box, it shows 3rd bag at $0.
United Premier Line (and web site) says 1@50lb. ANA customer service line says *G applies.
Do I get 1@50lb, 2@50lb or 3@70lb?
Clear as mud.
TIA.
Oct 23, 2013, 9:56 am
#103
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My guess is you get Premier Gold outbound, and if lucky, *G out of HKG. At worst, Air Japan will subject you to their baggage rules as Hawaiian Air does on UA codeshares (flying partner, but not *A member). My guess is ANA agent is right - you'll probably get the *A Gold benefit out of HKG.
Nov 9, 2013, 7:24 am
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I'd like to know how the MSC rule applies to my trip. So, who is the MSC here in my case?
Business Award from BOM to SJC. I am going to be checking bags all the way.
BOM (SQ: C/I) > Change Planes.
Connect time in Singapore, Singapore (SIN) is 2 hr 10 mn.
SIN (NH/ ANA: C/I) >
Change Planes. Connect time in Tokyo, Japan (NRT - Narita) is 1 hr 25 mn.
NRT (NH/ ANA: C/I) > SJC
What is my baggage allowance?
When I called SQ to get my seat assignments I just asked the person what was my luggage allowance and he said one bag at certain weight. When I looked at SQ website I realized there is a US and non-US "write up" there with the US matching 2 x 70lb for Business. Did he just make a mistake or do I need to be concerned?
What can I do to ensure I do not get hassled during check-in at BOM? When I booked the award and saw it on UA website it showed me 2 bags (32 kg/ 70lb).
Baggage allowance and charges for this itinerary as per my Receipt is the same as shown below.
Business Award from BOM to SJC. I am going to be checking bags all the way.
BOM (SQ: C/I) > Change Planes.
Connect time in Singapore, Singapore (SIN) is 2 hr 10 mn.
SIN (NH/ ANA: C/I) >
Change Planes. Connect time in Tokyo, Japan (NRT - Narita) is 1 hr 25 mn.
NRT (NH/ ANA: C/I) > SJC
What is my baggage allowance?
When I called SQ to get my seat assignments I just asked the person what was my luggage allowance and he said one bag at certain weight. When I looked at SQ website I realized there is a US and non-US "write up" there with the US matching 2 x 70lb for Business. Did he just make a mistake or do I need to be concerned?
What can I do to ensure I do not get hassled during check-in at BOM? When I booked the award and saw it on UA website it showed me 2 bags (32 kg/ 70lb).
Baggage allowance and charges for this itinerary as per my Receipt is the same as shown below.
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Baggage fees are per traveler In compliance with U.S. Department of Transportation regulations, checked baggage policies for your entire itinerary are determined by Singapore Airlines. Visit united.com/baggage for more information. Origin and destination for checked baggage 1st bag 2nd bag Max wt / dim per piece 11/11/2013 Mumbai (Bombay), India (BOM) to San Jose, CA (SJC) 0.00 USD 0.00 USD 70.0lbs (32.0kg) - 62.0in (158.0cm)
May 3, 2014, 10:31 pm
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I booked an award Y ticket from UA for my nephew flying HKG to DEN via NRT (Fiirst leg HKG-NRT by ANA and the 2nd leg NRT-DEN by UA). My nephew has no status at all. It's obvious that the MSC is UA but my nephew is going to check in at ANA counter in HKG. UA award ticket says the first bag is free but the 2nd bag will cost him $100. If the MSC rules apply, it might save him $100 for the 2nd checked bags since UA allows 2 free bags. Anyone who has any idea about this situation?