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Old Apr 16, 2015, 1:56 pm
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From SAT Lawyer's First Post:

Please also see: http://seatexpert.com/seatmap/320/Un..._First_&_Biz)/ and http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...747-400_B.php]

What follows is my assessment of where to sit on the 744, which I sampled on a recent flight from SYD-SFO. I sat in E+ for three hours before a flight cancellation on Tuesday and in 15K in the upper deck in business for 13 hours the following day, so I feel sufficiently well-informed to dispense advice for those cabins. I cannot, however, make a recommendation for business class seating on the lower deck or the E- minus cabin, so with that caveat, here is my feedback on the upper deck . . .

Where should I sit in the upper deck? Any seats better than others?

Unlike the old configuration of the upper deck where certain seats – especially the exit row seats in row 15 – are appreciably better, on the new configuration, there is not really much to distinguish between the upper deck seats except for the limited caveats noted below.

What seats should I try to avoid?

There are only five seats that are nominally less attractive than the rest. 12 J & K are close to the forward lavatories and the flight deck so you can expect increased foot traffic and noise during the flight. The shell for 14K protrudes backward into the exit door area and partially overlaps with the exit door causing a nominal reduction in the view and a possible cold spot due to airflow penetrating the door seal. 17 J & K lose a good deal of privacy because they are visible from the top of the stairs and suffer from increased noise and light from the galley and traffic to and from the galley.

Window or aisle?

Window, definitely. And I say this as someone who is typically an aisle guy. You get the side bins for storage, the view, a little more peace and privacy being further removed from the aisle, and avoid the possibility of being disrupted by a seatmate climbing over you. Climbing over a seatmate in the aisle seat who is in the sleeping configuration requires a little bit of dexterity, but certainly is not terribly difficult for anyone who is at least 6 feet tall. Those who are substantially shorter than 6 feet may want to avoid the window, however.

Forward or backward?

Doesn’t really matter. Due to the pitch of the aircraft, those facing backwards will have their feet slightly below their heads in the sleeping configuration, but we are really splitting hairs here. Personally, I prefer the backward-facing view from the upper deck because you can see the wing and the engines.

What if I’m traveling with more than two people?

You will not be able to see or converse with the passengers whose feet oppose yours behind the wall adjoining the foot pocket and video panel. In other words, to give one example, the passengers in 15 J & K are fully walled-off from the passengers in 16 J & K. The shell of the seat also provides full privacy from behind. So, if you want to keep an eye on travel companions, you should try to sit diagonally across the aisle from one other. Passengers in 15 J & K, for example, will have a good view of passengers in 16 A & B, and vice versa. Actually, if you are travelling in a group of more than two and being able to chat is important to you, you'll probably want to sit in the middle section of the lower deck.

What happened to the exit row?

For all intents and purposes, it doesn’t exist. The seats in both rows 14 and 15 both back up to the exit area creating something more akin to an exit corridor. No extra legroom or particular advantage to these seats.

How is the seat for sleeping?

It’s a true, parallel-to-the-ground lie-flat seat, which is the big improvement. The arm rests on both sides can be manually lowered so that they don’t extend above the seat in bed configuration, which further increases arm and shoulder room. Unfortunately, for window seaters, there will be a healthy gap between the lowered arm rest and the side bins which means that the extra room on one side isn’t particularly useful since if you stick your arm far enough off the seat, it will essentially drop off a cliff with nothing to prop it up. As a 6-footer, my left foot was a little bit cramped due to the curvature of the foot-pocket, although this was not terribly bothersome. Both my seatmate and I felt that the seat lacked sufficient padding in the lumbar region of the back so we both woke up with sore lower backs.

What is the audio and video on-demand like?

For United and in comparison to the old configuration, great. The video screens are positively huge. There aren’t as many movies as one may find on airlines like Singapore, but still, there should be enough features to keep all but the most demanding and fickle passengers entertained.

As for the E+ cabin . . .

Seat pitch seems indistinguishable throughout, the bulkhead row 19 excepted. I don't care for the seats in row 19 myself because the hard bulkhead without cutouts effectively prevents all but the shortest traveler from stretching out his or her feet. This is true of both the outside seats as well as the middle section.

I would strongly advise against any D seat -- the aisle seats on the port side of the middle section -- because the audio boxes are beneath those seats and inhibit leg room for the left foot. There still should be enough room to place both feet, but only at a fairly sharp and uncomfortable angle.

As an aisle guy, I would go with one of the G seats. No audio box inhibiting leg room and landlocked middle seat passengers can access the aisle in either direction cutting in half your chance of getting bumped or bothered while you are trying to sleep.

There are still no individual seat-back video screens, unfortunately, so you are stuck with whatever programming UA runs on the main screens. Fortunately, the main screens have been upgraded to LCD screens. Sit at least a few rows back from row 19 to avoid being uncomfortably close to the screens.
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Old Dec 12, 2015, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Have you sat in the nose before? All else being equal, I'd take 1A every time. It's equally cool in its own way, and in addition to the extra space and better seat, it's much quieter down there.

That said, if this is really your last chance to fly UD, and you can get one of the good seats (particularly a window in 14 or 15), it is pretty cool. It's a totally different perspective.
always try to get 1A or 1K to the FE. More privacy and great view on takeoff and landing
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Hi all,
Going to travel with my 6 years son on a 744 later this year, what is the best seat for us in E+? Unfortunately 33/45 is not an option as he is too young to sit in a exit row. How about 19 A/B? I can make him a poor man's lie flat with a carry on in front of his seat, but the immovable armrest prevent him sleeps on my lap as well... Any input is appreciated!
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Any thoughts on 14A vs 15A on the upper deck?
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Old Jan 6, 2016, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by helvetic
Any thoughts on 14A vs 15A on the upper deck?
Both great seats. I have a slight preference for 14A. I'm a left side sleeper and thus sleep toward the window in that seat, as opposed to my neighbor in 15A. Depending on the configuration, 14A may have more space to the side and be easier to exit out the back. Others will say they prefer the rear facing seats in row 15.
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Old Jan 6, 2016, 11:09 pm
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I'm tall 6-6 and have booked 3 transpacs on the 744 this year so far. You scared me out of 19H and into 45C.
My main issue is people reclining into me but between the body shots regarding the restrictive bulkhead and the head shots with the screen comments I bailed.

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Old Jan 13, 2016, 11:53 am
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I have Seat question for 747-400. Currently i pick the last row on the main deck.

60B and 60C. The last row with 2 seats on the side 2-4-2 row config.

Any idea how far is that from the toilet? Will that be too much traffic from people going to the toilet? Also does it recline all the way? In general, good or bad seat?
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Old Jan 30, 2016, 9:14 am
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United 747-400 Biz Class Pitch & Seat Configuration

I'm getting ready to pick our seats for our SFO-LHR flight on the 2nd level in business class seats.

On seatguru, I see the following information:

As seats in Business class recline at 180 degrees, it is often difficult to exit the window seats when the passenger in the aisle is reclined. On the upper deck of the 747, there is 3 inches less seat pitch than on the main deck. Taller passengers in United's Business class are advised to select an aisle row on the main deck.

I know I should know what this means...but I do not. My husband told me what he thought it means and I have my doubts. It was not written by a passenger.

So what does 3 inches less seat pitch actually mean? Do the seats still lie flat or are they slightly angled? I'm 5'8" and hubby is 6'. Should we avoid the top level?

One more question...I see the rear facing seat configuration. Is there anything between the seat between someone that is facing front/rear? A screen or something? Is the person in front of you going to be looking at you all flight and vice versa? If that is the case, I will take that into consideration when selecting flights. I'd rather look at my hubby's mug for 10 hours.

Thanks!!!!

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Old Jan 30, 2016, 9:24 am
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Seats are shorter in the upper cabin....I measured them.

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Originally Posted by kymbakitty
...One more question...I see the rear facing seat configuration. Is there anything between the seat between someone that is facing front/rear? A screen or something?...
You will not see the person in the seat directly in front of you , but you can see people facing you that are across the aisle.

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Old Jan 30, 2016, 9:32 am
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Thank you!

Would this affect someone 6' tall, or someone much taller?

We have sat on the 2nd level on two airlines (Qantas and British Airways) and love the privacy. But 3 inches is a lot IF it affects someone that is 6'.

It may only affect someone that is taller than 6'.

Can I ask what your favorite seat is if you had a choice of any of the Biz Class seats on that plane?

Thank you...

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Old Jan 30, 2016, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by kymbakitty
Would this affect someone 6' tall, or someone much taller?
I'm 5'11" and have no problem. The key might be if your husband likes to fully stretch out or bend his knees when he sleeps.

Originally Posted by kymbakitty
Can I ask what your favorite seat is if you had a choice of any of the Biz Class seats on that plane?
I always take a rear-facing seat on the upper deck.
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Old Jan 30, 2016, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by kymbakitty
Would this affect someone 6' tall, or someone much taller?...
Flew SFO-LHR in an upper-deck seat this past year. I'm 6'3" and I was fine with the seat.

Disclaimer: I tend not to whine about anything when I'm in a long-haul premium seat, but others on this forum will complain about any aspect of a flight that's that's not perfect.
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Old Jan 30, 2016, 10:04 am
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I'm 6'5 and have flown the upper deck several times. The bed length is a bit shorter than the seats on the lower deck and with someone of my height it matters. I don't think it would make that much of a difference with someone 6' tall.

I've also found that the trick for a tall person on the UD is to choose the window seats. The storage bins next to the window seats create a bit of a shelf and you can curl up on your side and take advantage of the extra width. It gives you much more room to bend your knees and slide your torso side to side. It's a bit of a compromise but I find it worth it compared to the relatively restricted width of the LD seats.

As far as getting out of the UD window seats I've always been able to climb over the passenger in the aisle seat with the aisle seat in the bed configuration (I've got longer legs than most though). It's a bit tight for headroom but you've got a lot of surfaces to use as handles for support.

All in all, if it was a flight where I, at 6'5", simply wanted to maximize sleep I'd probably go with the LD solely for the extra length. If I only wanted to sleep for a few hours and also enjoy the flight otherwise I'd definitely choose the UD for the smaller cabin. I also vastly prefer the rear facing seats.
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Old Jan 30, 2016, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by kymbakitty
Would this affect someone 6' tall, or someone much taller?

We have sat on the 2nd level on two airlines (Qantas and British Airways) and love the privacy. But 3 inches is a lot IF it affects someone that is 6'.

It may only affect someone that is taller than 6'.

Can I ask what your favorite seat is if you had a choice of any of the Biz Class seats on that plane?

Thank you...

Dawn
I am just over 6' and prefer rear facing seats on the upper deck. Despite the pitch difference the upper deck feels much less crowded and more private. You and your husband should take the upper deck.
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Old Jan 30, 2016, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by kymbakitty
..... So what does 3 inches less seat pitch actually mean? Do the seats still lie flat or are they slightly angled? I'm 5'8" and hubby is 6'. Should we avoid the top level? ....
Originally Posted by gdavis
Seats are shorter in the upper cabin....I measured them.
See post #1 for individual seat dimensions
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