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Old Apr 16, 2015, 1:56 pm
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Please also see: http://seatexpert.com/seatmap/320/Un..._First_&_Biz)/ and http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...747-400_B.php]

What follows is my assessment of where to sit on the 744, which I sampled on a recent flight from SYD-SFO. I sat in E+ for three hours before a flight cancellation on Tuesday and in 15K in the upper deck in business for 13 hours the following day, so I feel sufficiently well-informed to dispense advice for those cabins. I cannot, however, make a recommendation for business class seating on the lower deck or the E- minus cabin, so with that caveat, here is my feedback on the upper deck . . .

Where should I sit in the upper deck? Any seats better than others?

Unlike the old configuration of the upper deck where certain seats – especially the exit row seats in row 15 – are appreciably better, on the new configuration, there is not really much to distinguish between the upper deck seats except for the limited caveats noted below.

What seats should I try to avoid?

There are only five seats that are nominally less attractive than the rest. 12 J & K are close to the forward lavatories and the flight deck so you can expect increased foot traffic and noise during the flight. The shell for 14K protrudes backward into the exit door area and partially overlaps with the exit door causing a nominal reduction in the view and a possible cold spot due to airflow penetrating the door seal. 17 J & K lose a good deal of privacy because they are visible from the top of the stairs and suffer from increased noise and light from the galley and traffic to and from the galley.

Window or aisle?

Window, definitely. And I say this as someone who is typically an aisle guy. You get the side bins for storage, the view, a little more peace and privacy being further removed from the aisle, and avoid the possibility of being disrupted by a seatmate climbing over you. Climbing over a seatmate in the aisle seat who is in the sleeping configuration requires a little bit of dexterity, but certainly is not terribly difficult for anyone who is at least 6 feet tall. Those who are substantially shorter than 6 feet may want to avoid the window, however.

Forward or backward?

Doesn’t really matter. Due to the pitch of the aircraft, those facing backwards will have their feet slightly below their heads in the sleeping configuration, but we are really splitting hairs here. Personally, I prefer the backward-facing view from the upper deck because you can see the wing and the engines.

What if I’m traveling with more than two people?

You will not be able to see or converse with the passengers whose feet oppose yours behind the wall adjoining the foot pocket and video panel. In other words, to give one example, the passengers in 15 J & K are fully walled-off from the passengers in 16 J & K. The shell of the seat also provides full privacy from behind. So, if you want to keep an eye on travel companions, you should try to sit diagonally across the aisle from one other. Passengers in 15 J & K, for example, will have a good view of passengers in 16 A & B, and vice versa. Actually, if you are travelling in a group of more than two and being able to chat is important to you, you'll probably want to sit in the middle section of the lower deck.

What happened to the exit row?

For all intents and purposes, it doesn’t exist. The seats in both rows 14 and 15 both back up to the exit area creating something more akin to an exit corridor. No extra legroom or particular advantage to these seats.

How is the seat for sleeping?

It’s a true, parallel-to-the-ground lie-flat seat, which is the big improvement. The arm rests on both sides can be manually lowered so that they don’t extend above the seat in bed configuration, which further increases arm and shoulder room. Unfortunately, for window seaters, there will be a healthy gap between the lowered arm rest and the side bins which means that the extra room on one side isn’t particularly useful since if you stick your arm far enough off the seat, it will essentially drop off a cliff with nothing to prop it up. As a 6-footer, my left foot was a little bit cramped due to the curvature of the foot-pocket, although this was not terribly bothersome. Both my seatmate and I felt that the seat lacked sufficient padding in the lumbar region of the back so we both woke up with sore lower backs.

What is the audio and video on-demand like?

For United and in comparison to the old configuration, great. The video screens are positively huge. There aren’t as many movies as one may find on airlines like Singapore, but still, there should be enough features to keep all but the most demanding and fickle passengers entertained.

As for the E+ cabin . . .

Seat pitch seems indistinguishable throughout, the bulkhead row 19 excepted. I don't care for the seats in row 19 myself because the hard bulkhead without cutouts effectively prevents all but the shortest traveler from stretching out his or her feet. This is true of both the outside seats as well as the middle section.

I would strongly advise against any D seat -- the aisle seats on the port side of the middle section -- because the audio boxes are beneath those seats and inhibit leg room for the left foot. There still should be enough room to place both feet, but only at a fairly sharp and uncomfortable angle.

As an aisle guy, I would go with one of the G seats. No audio box inhibiting leg room and landlocked middle seat passengers can access the aisle in either direction cutting in half your chance of getting bumped or bothered while you are trying to sleep.

There are still no individual seat-back video screens, unfortunately, so you are stuck with whatever programming UA runs on the main screens. Fortunately, the main screens have been upgraded to LCD screens. Sit at least a few rows back from row 19 to avoid being uncomfortably close to the screens.
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Old Oct 7, 2015, 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by lensman
So I find myself in seat 1A but with all the comments from everyone about how special sitting in the upper deck is, I was considering trying to figure out how to downgrade myself to an upper deck seat in C.

I'm guessing this will be my last chance to fly on a 747 and I've never sat in the upper deck.

It's a short SFO-HNL flight so it's not like I'll be regretting the lack of storage space or going crazy for long because of my neighbor. And meal service is likely to be identical for F and C.

Thoughts?
Have you sat in the nose before? All else being equal, I'd take 1A every time. It's equally cool in its own way, and in addition to the extra space and better seat, it's much quieter down there.

That said, if this is really your last chance to fly UD, and you can get one of the good seats (particularly a window in 14 or 15), it is pretty cool. It's a totally different perspective.
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Old Oct 7, 2015, 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by lensman
I'm guessing this will be my last chance to fly on a 747 and I've never sat in the upper deck.
Originally Posted by Kacee
Have you sat in the nose before? All else being equal, I'd take 1A every time.
Boy, this is a tough call

The only time I got myself to pony up miles (no way to afford these on my "help humankind job" salary) was to fly TG A380 on pre devaluation miles in Int'l FC.

But I've read some interesting stories about flying in the nose ^

That said, and without the benefit of flying in the nose, UD is a MUST for any airplane :-: afficianado :-: and would, IMHO without the benefit of flying in the nose, be an experience not to be missed.

Don't know about downgrade, but I suspect if you go to UD, you may find a volunteer to swap places with you. I'd do, as I've been on UD many times, and IMHO there's only one way to fly:

UD on the Queen of the Skies.

My next quest is to to get a seat on UD of 747-8

Sadly, very few of these, and 777X probably put the last nail in the coffin
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Old Oct 7, 2015, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Have you sat in the nose before? All else being equal, I'd take 1A every time. It's equally cool in its own way, and in addition to the extra space and better seat, it's much quieter down there.
I was able to sit in 1A once and 1K once. With the angle of the fuselage and the way the windows are positioned: You can see out the FRONT of the plane! Amazing!
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Old Oct 7, 2015, 9:42 pm
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I was able to sit in 1A once and 1K once. With the angle of the fuselage and the way the windows are positioned: You can see out the FRONT of the plane! Amazing!
Originally Posted by EmailKid
But I've read some interesting stories about flying in the nose ^
As I was saying ....
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Old Oct 7, 2015, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by lensman
So I find myself in seat 1A but with all the comments from everyone about how special sitting in the upper deck is, I was considering trying to figure out how to downgrade myself to an upper deck seat in C.

I'm guessing this will be my last chance to fly on a 747 and I've never sat in the upper deck.

It's a short SFO-HNL flight so it's not like I'll be regretting the lack of storage space or going crazy for long because of my neighbor. And meal service is likely to be identical for F and C.

Thoughts?
I've been on both, and while UD is better than LD J, it pales in comparison to GF experience. I would consider a voluntary downgrade to be a useless exercise.
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Old Oct 8, 2015, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by 747FC
I've been on both, and while UD is better than LD J, it pales in comparison to GF experience. I would consider a voluntary downgrade to be a useless exercise.
But this is a domestic flight, so it's not a "Global First" experience, just a domestic F experience. Personally I wouldn't downgrade myself, just because you don't have direct aisle access on J, although for a 6 hour flight that may not be important to you. You can always seek out LH flights on the 747-4/8, and try for UD J then.
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Can tell on the map. First time in a 747 in many years. Have 20A HKG-SF0. I see this is the first few rows of E+. Are the bathrooms near the front (row 16 or so) I hope not, as I dont like the people hanging around
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Old Oct 8, 2015, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by Flying Machine
Can tell on the map. First time in a 747 in many years. Have 20A HKG-SF0. I see this is the first few rows of E+. Are the bathrooms near the front (row 16 or so) I hope not, as I dont like the people hanging around
No. Even Seatguru has this information.
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Originally Posted by scnzzz
No. Even Seatguru has this information.
Who even thinks of the obvious Thanks and Safe Travels
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I haven't been on a UA 744 in at least 10 years, so pardon the question. What is everyone's thoughts about sitting in an aisle E- seat versus selecting a middle E+ seat at check-in for a 13 hour flight? Does the convenience of aisle access outweigh the benefit of a little bit more legroom and recline?
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Old Dec 10, 2015, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by Brick
I haven't been on a UA 744 in at least 10 years, so pardon the question. What is everyone's thoughts about sitting in an aisle E- seat versus selecting a middle E+ seat at check-in for a 13 hour flight? Does the convenience of aisle access outweigh the benefit of a little bit more legroom and recline?
General view in thread seems to be the marginal increase in E+ legroom isn't worth it in this scenario. At least that's my view, although I've usually been able to select a seat in Row 33 or 45, where legroom isn't an issue.
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Old Dec 10, 2015, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by Brick
I haven't been on a UA 744 in at least 10 years, so pardon the question. What is everyone's thoughts about sitting in an aisle E- seat versus selecting a middle E+ seat at check-in for a 13 hour flight? Does the convenience of aisle access outweigh the benefit of a little bit more legroom and recline?
Originally Posted by drewguy
General view in thread seems to be the marginal increase in E+ legroom isn't worth it in this scenario.
That is the general consensus here, as E+ on the 744 is not much better than E-.

For a 13 hour flight, I would not want the middle in any event.
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Old Dec 10, 2015, 2:03 pm
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Thanks for your input guys! I think I'll stay with the aisle E- and only switch to E+ if a non-C aisle seat opens up.

I thought about grabbing row 33 or 45 if it is available, I think people hanging out in the area or waiting for the lav to open up would just annoy me to no end.
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Old Dec 10, 2015, 5:08 pm
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This might be my first time on the LD . . . Any comments on 7A vs. 6K? I'm in 7A right now on the theory it's farther from the lav. Rear vs. forward facing doesn't matter to me.
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Old Dec 11, 2015, 4:19 pm
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This might be my first time on the LD . . . Any comments on 7A vs. 6K? I'm in 7A right now on the theory it's farther from the lav. Rear vs. forward facing doesn't matter to me.
Feels like 6 of one, half dozen of the other to me. I would go rear facing if I planned to sleep only because that's my personal preference. Otherwise, pick the one closest to the exit. Lav will matter very little -- I find that especially on the older planes, bathroom smells make their way into the cabin no matter where you sit.
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