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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 32999826)
The problem is that this approach, without strict oversight, is tantamount to taking the p*ss. Prior to Lockdown 2.0 I remember going into London (Soho etc) and seeing packed tables with people sitting 30 cm apart. Also, most establishments (I'm thinking at basically every place around my place, including my dearest Japanese restaurant "Makoto" on Turnham Green) are so small that they basically had to limit capacity to one or two tables.
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Some of you are terrific optimists and setting unrealistic expectations so you are only going to be disappointed. Pubs/restaurants and family mixing by Early April? Start thinking about 6 months hence and you might be more in the frame, and that is assuming that there is no additional new variant appearing from anywhere in the world. Have you already discounted what the appearance of just one of them from Kent did in Oct/Nov last year to the hopes of Christmas mixing?
I would love to be wrong, but there will still only be jabs going to the priority groups at that time and there will need to be a lot more cover in the herd before you are roaming the range again. |
Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 32999002)
Matt Hancock is apparently. I believe most people will head to France, Italy, Greece and Spain when they open up and travel corridors are reintroduced.
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Originally Posted by antichef
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Unless you are one of the political elite you are not, or one of the guards/policing team that will have the place locked down like a fortress on security grounds and be the only tourists for the
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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 32999826)
The problem is that this approach, without strict oversight, is tantamount to taking the p*ss. Prior to Lockdown 2.0 I remember going into London (Soho etc) and seeing packed tables with people sitting 30 cm apart. Also, most establishments (I'm thinking at basically every place around my place, including my dearest Japanese restaurant "Makoto" on Turnham Green) are so small that they basically had to limit capacity to one or two tables.
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Originally Posted by HB7
(Post 32999848)
My comment was tongue in cheek.
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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 32999800)
I had hopes of getting into a pub / restaurant by Easter but if these plans are to be unveiled by the end of Feb, as BoJo said, it's perhaps optimistic.
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Originally Posted by paulaf
(Post 33000043)
There's little joy in life left now but to ask us to maintain it for another 3 months really?
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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 33000096)
I know it's easy to jump to conclusions and I absolutely ignore your personal circumstances but... it could be a lot worse. Seeing my mother dying of cancer, a few years ago, aged 62 taught me quite the ultimate lesson in finding joys in life. I must admit, I miss having beers with friends, I miss not seeing a large part of my family, I have a nephew I haven't been able to say hello to since he was born and I absolutely miss the feeling of being able to go travelling... but it could be a lot worse.
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Originally Posted by paulaf
(Post 33000119)
Yes I lost my mum a few years ago too out of the blue, she was fit and active and fairly young, other family all live too far away to see, every day feels like groundhog day, sorry just having a bad day and feeling frustrated.
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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 33000219)
:) No worries, we all have 'em. I'm currently sitting through a wireframe diagram review. It's 3-hours long and it started 51 minutes ago... Aaaargh.
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Originally Posted by plunet
(Post 33000328)
The fact that you're browsing FT and replying to messages kinda indicates how well that meeting is engaging you ;)
Covid: Arrest over suspicious package at vaccine plantA man has been arrested after a suspicious package was sent to a Covid-19 vaccine factory in Wrexham.On Wednesday the Wockhardt UK plant on Wrexham Industrial Estate was evacuated and the Army sent a bomb disposal unit. Kent Police said a 53-year-old man from Chatham had been arrested on suspicion of sending the package and remains in custody as inquiries continue. It said warrants had taken place on Luton Road and Chatham Hill, Chatham, on Thursday morning. There is no evidence to suggest there is an ongoing threat, it added. On Wednesday police said the package had been made safe and its contents would be "taken away for analysis". Wockhardt said staff had been allowed to return and its production schedule had not been affected. The company entered an agreement in August to help prepare the vaccine for distribution. |
Another slowish day vaccine wise: only 282k first jabs today (2k second jabs given). I would have thought that we would be getting much quicker by now, unless supply is a big issue, which may be it - even though we are told its fine. To hit 15 million we need nothing less than 400k a day from here on it.
Some may say its just politics, but Germany said that the AZ Oxford vaccine won't be given to their over 65's: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55839885. That's not great news. The above points I fear will only slow down the easing of any restrictions. |
Originally Posted by HB7
(Post 33000446)
Another slowish day vaccine wise: only 282k first jabs today (2k second jabs given). I would have thought that we would be getting much quicker by now, unless supply is a big issue, which may be it - even though we are told its fine. To hit 15 million we need nothing less than 400k a day from here on it.
Some may say its just politics, but Germany said that the AZ Oxford vaccine won't be given to their over 65's: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55839885. That's not great news. The above points I fear will only slow down the easing of any restrictions. UK doesn't care about Germany's AZ Stance, it has nothing to do with UK. Each country can do as they please. |
Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 33000455)
Supplies limited this week to 300,000 a day, next week will be ramped up. NHS can do millions a day if they want, depends on supply.
UK doesn't care about Germany's AZ Stance, it has nothing to do with UK. Each country can do as they please. My point is not whether the UK 'cares' or not. If the Germans honestly believe the AZ vaccine is not that effective, then that is a worry for us here as well if there is any truth to that. The Americans are still yet to approve it either. Why not? |
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