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Old Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
I feel for you with the UK lockdown. It is useless and is doing nothing to knock down numbers. Too little, too late while your merchants' shops are closing left and right.

The new new infection case rate (per 100,000 people) in Florida (open) is the same, if not LOWER than California (closed).

All experts agree lockdown early in the game would have made a difference (which explains why SFO is way lower infection rates than LA county) but now the virus is everywhere.

The UK lockdown is utterly useless and meaningless.
That makes no sense. Lockdowns force people to have less contact and therefore less virus transmission. UK numbers have dropped significantly in the last week, clearly proving lockdowns work.
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 5:06 pm
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I'm wondering what people's thoughts are regarding travel restrictions when lockdown measures start to ease. We all know lockdown measures will ease slowly, however, what do people think when it comes to the travel restrictions regarding those lockdowns. Will they be one of the first or last measures to be eased? Furthermore, what about, as an example travel to Europe. Do you think European nations will allows Brits in if our numbers (both deaths and cases) are low? Vaccinations in Europe are moving really slowly, and it seems like it will be a while before their populations are protected.
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by HB7
That makes no sense. Lockdowns force people to have less contact and therefore less virus transmission. UK numbers have dropped significantly in the last week, clearly proving lockdowns work.
Lockdowns force people to bring the interaction to their household where that only further worsens the problem.
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
The 7 day average has dropped from 59k to 43k in just over a week. Maybe check your facts before posting.
That 59K figure could be an outlier from when everyone was together at Christmas locked in households.
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
That 59K figure could be an outlier from when everyone was together at Christmas locked in households.
So the logic would be do not mix households?
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 7:10 pm
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So the logic would be do not mix households?
apparently thats your countrys logic. I couldnt visit my sister right down the road when I was there over Christmas.
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
apparently thats your countrys logic. I couldnt visit my sister right down the road when I was there over Christmas.
Sorry, I am just following from what you posted. You said the numbers were higher because of the brief Christmas relaxation where households could mix. So there is a correlation in your mind between mixing households and higher case numbers.
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Old Jan 21, 2021, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by HB7
I'm wondering what people's thoughts are regarding travel restrictions when lockdown measures start to ease. We all know lockdown measures will ease slowly, however, what do people think when it comes to the travel restrictions regarding those lockdowns. Will they be one of the first or last measures to be eased? Furthermore, what about, as an example travel to Europe. Do you think European nations will allows Brits in if our numbers (both deaths and cases) are low? Vaccinations in Europe are moving really slowly, and it seems like it will be a while before their populations are protected.
Nothing will move/change until the summer is my bet.

Also, from the Telegraph, a snippet of news that might be the final nail in the coffin for those wishing to travel this year.

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Old Jan 21, 2021, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by 13901
Nothing will move/change until the summer is my bet.

Also, from the Telegraph, a snippet of news that might be the final nail in the coffin for those wishing to travel this year.
This would effectively kill BA. They won't survive this.
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Old Jan 21, 2021, 2:13 am
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Let's get cases down to Australia levels before adopting the Australian quarantine measures. Also Australia has no road links to foreign countries.
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Old Jan 21, 2021, 2:32 am
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This would effectively kill BA. They won't survive this.
BA, Virgin, easyJet, HAL, GAL, Eurostar, MAC...The list goes on. But this is the f*ck business government so who knows.
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Old Jan 21, 2021, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by 13901
BA, Virgin, easyJet, HAL, GAL, Eurostar, MAC...The list goes on. But this is the f*ck business government so who knows.
Its unbelievable. As you mentioned before - travel may be dead for 2021???
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Old Jan 21, 2021, 3:03 am
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Its unbelievable. As you mentioned before - travel may be dead for 2021???
I read the article on the paper and it seems still far from a done deal. No. 10 seems dead against it. I'm no corporate-wage-slave, whom I imagine sitting at the head of the table in Cobra meetings, but I'd hazard a guess and think that Priti is playing the bad cop, Shapps and Sunak the realistic ones and Boris is the adjudicator.
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Old Jan 21, 2021, 3:11 am
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I read the article on the paper and it seems still far from a done deal. No. 10 seems dead against it. I'm no corporate-wage-slave, whom I imagine sitting at the head of the table in Cobra meetings, but I'd hazard a guess and think that Priti is playing the bad cop, Shapps and Sunak the realistic ones and Boris is the adjudicator.
For the life of me I don't know how Priti still has a job. Her and Gavin Williamson.
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Old Jan 21, 2021, 3:21 am
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For the life of me I don't know how Priti still has a job. Her and Gavin Williamson.
Him especially. He has utterly screwed education at all levels.
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