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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 32894741)
Except that the size of a Christmas bubble between 23rd and 27th will be limited to two households (plus a single adult) by law but I have not found the relevant legislation/amendment yet. The guidance states:
Between 23 and 27 December:
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Looks like the Tiering system isn't having the hoped-for results.
Coronavirus: UK R number back above oneand Covid: Boris Johnson 'hoping to avoid' national lockdown |
So on hearing of the challenge brought to him by Arlene, Mad Mark has decided a lockdown in Wales is a great plan. Nutty Nicola will be deciding on Tuesday, I have no doubt at all she is coming with a brilliant plan to be even worse than those two! How about a year long lockdown where you cannot go outside at all period? Would not put it past her!
Boris 'hoping to avoid a third lockdown' until Chris Whitty shouts at him and he goes over to his desk cowering and announces it. Honestly by the time you are having third lockdowns, surely its time to question whether lockdowns work or do anything, clearly not. |
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 32894741)
Except that the size of a Christmas bubble between 23rd and 27th will be limited to two households (plus a single adult) by law but I have not found the relevant legislation/amendment yet. The guidance states:
Between 23 and 27 December:
Wales can look forward to the delights of new Alert Levels 1 to 4. I may try and read it later. |
Northern Ireland is to start a six-week lockdown on Boxing Day which is is essentially a return to March's sustained restrictions.During the first week of the lockdown, people are urged only to leave their home for essential reasons. Between 20:00 and 06:00 from 26 December until 2 January:
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I see rumours of travel restrictions for London and the South East since last night, I guess our hopes of a more normal start to 2021 aren't going in the right direction :(
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Originally Posted by alex67500
(Post 32897034)
I see rumours of travel restrictions for London and the South East since last night, I guess our hopes of a more normal start to 2021 aren't going in the right direction :(
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Originally Posted by newbierunner
(Post 32897269)
boris johnson is due to make an announcement about possible tier 4 for london and se england in 45 minutes (16:00 gmt today).
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So is there any legal effect to the new Tier 4 restrictions given parliament hasn't voted? Or are they only advisory?
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Originally Posted by KSVVZ2015
(Post 32897471)
So is there any legal effect to the new Tier 4 restrictions given parliament hasn't voted? Or are they only advisory?
But in the spirit of collegiality, I will say that I’m fairly sure the government can impose legally binding restrictions quickly without the specific assent of parliament. |
From midnight, a new tier four [for England] will be introduced... Tier four restrictions will apply in all tier three areas in the South East, covering Kent, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey (excluding Waverley), Gosport, Havant, Portsmouth, Rother and Hastings. It will also apply in London (all 32 boroughs and the City of London) and the East of England (Bedford, Central Bedford, Milton Keynes, Luton, Peterborough, Hertfordshire, Essex (excluding Colchester, Uttlesford and Tendring).
In tier four areas, all non-essential retail will have to close, along with hairdressers, nail bars, indoor gyms and leisure facilities. People will be advised not to travel into a tier four area. The restrictions will last for two weeks, with the first review due on 30 December. Those in tier four cannot mix indoors with anyone not from their household. A stay-at-home order will be issued to residents in tier four, with those travelling to work or for education exempt. Social mixing will be cut to meeting one person in an open public space. For the rest of the country, the three household mixing limit has been cut from five days to just Christmas Day. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55379220 |
Wasn’t Lockdown 1.0 approved without Parliamentary voting?
(BTW, off-topic but couldn’t resist asking: in normal times Parliament has that delightfully démodé voting procedure where ayes go in a corridor and nays in another. In this day of remote working, how do they do it? I imagine some sort of digital polling?) |
The whole of Wales will be placed under lockdown from midnight with festive plans cancelled for all but Christmas Day.
From 23 to 28 December rules had been due to be relaxed to allow people to celebrate the holidays with loved-ones. But now this is limited to just Christmas Day. The changes mean that a Wales-wide lockdown, which was due to come into effect from 28 December, has been brought forward and will begin at midnight tonight. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55379237 |
Originally Posted by KSVVZ2015
(Post 32897471)
So is there any legal effect to the new Tier 4 restrictions given parliament hasn't voted? Or are they only advisory?
The basis behind this is that many pieces of primary legislation - the sort you see discussed in parliament and goes for Royal Assent - have enabling clauses in them, which allows the government to put forward a SI in particular circumstances, without a parliamentary vote. In many cases this goes back to the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984, which was written in anticipation of a pandemic happening. And that piece of legislation allows the government to push out the SIs. Parliament has several methods of stopping an SI if it chooses. HMG did commit, between Lockdown 1.0 and Lockdown 2.0, to get parliamentary approval before further changes, but Parliament is currently not due to sit until the New Year, but I expect there will be a debate with a vote of some sort then. |
Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 32897535)
(BTW, off-topic but couldn’t resist asking: in normal times Parliament has that delightfully démodé voting procedure where ayes go in a corridor and nays in another. In this day of remote working, how do they do it? I imagine some sort of digital polling?)
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