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Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 33155882)
My main goal for this summer is to see my mother who is in a country where covid is not doing so great and she herself is not doing very well. My goal is to see her in a third country to avoid a hotel quarantine, so which vaccine I get, if any at all any time soon, restrictions from Scotland, etc. etc are all such a worry. Being in April already I want to plan but I feel like I can't at all. Strange times.
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Originally Posted by bluemoon68
(Post 33153977)
Probably because people were told to book first vaccines prior to 29/3, even if the date of their appointment was later. Second vaccines are being prioritised at the moment.
That said, speaking to work colleagues could yield results. Even turning up at a mass vaccination centre or pharmacy, may allow her a walk-in appointment. if that fails then follow the advice on the booking page -“You may find it harder to book 1st vaccination appointments in April. If you are eligible to use this service but cannot get an appointment, speak to your GP surgery.” |
Appearing on the BBC’s Good Morning Scotland programme on Monday, health secretary Jeane Freeman was asked whether the changes could mean people in England being allowed to travel abroad while those in Scotland are told not to. “I don’t know the answer to that yet,” she said. “What I do know is that we only need to look at the situation in France to see what can happen if you move too fast and you have, as France does, more than one variant to contend with. “What I know for sure is that I don’t want us to move back into a third lockdown. I am absolutely certain that businesses don’t want that too. “If that means we can ease domestically, whilst restricting ourselves in terms of international travel, then that might be the right choice to make. “But at this point, it’s too early to have a definitive view on that. We need to see how we make progress.” |
EasyJet with something to say on testing, via BBC:
EasyJet: Two test travel plan would be too expensive The boss of EasyJet has said testing requirements under a proposed "traffic light" system for international travel would be too expensive. Under the system, no isolation would be necessary on return to the UK from so-called "green" countries. But pre-departure and post-arrival tests would be required, potentially costing up to £200 each. Johan Lundgren said: "You wouldn't open up international travel for everyone, but only those who can afford it." Mr Lundgren told the BBC's Today programme that the cost of getting the tests would exceed a typical EasyJet fare. |
Originally Posted by KSVVZ2015
(Post 33155881)
Which is better than zero!! And most importantly, if one country is green it means presumably that the non-essential travel ban was lifted with respect to at least non-red list countries. Meaning we get our freedom to make decisions back. One could choose to travel to most of the world based solely on (i) the destination country's policies and (ii) willingness to comply with the green or amber testing and isolation requirements. Right now, those rights are taken away.
Sure, we'd all like COVID to disappear and travel to revert to 2019 tomorrow. But since that's impossible, I'll take something over the status quo. |
Originally Posted by DaveS
(Post 33155905)
EasyJet with something to say on testing, via BBC:
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Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 33155838)
Very interesting stuff, I am not clear, are they really suggesting mixing vaccines? Even vaccines of different types? This is very odd - there is no approval for this and no trials have been put forward for approval for this. It would be going in to the unknown currently.
https://www.rki.de/SharedDocs/FAQ/CO...#FAQId15294220
Originally Posted by STIKO translated using google
The STIKO recommendation is always based on the best scientific knowledge currently available. New knowledge is continuously assessed and the recommendations are adapted and updated accordingly.
New recommendation from April 1st, 2021 at a glance:
The STIKO recommendation is based on the current state of knowledge and therefore only takes into account those vaccines that are already approved and used in Germany or that will soon be used in Germany. The recommendation is continuously updated by the STIKO in the sense of a “Living Guideline” . This happens as soon as additional vaccines are approved and available in Germany or new relevant findings that influence this recommendation become known. The updated STIKO recommendation with scientific justification for COVID-19 vaccination will soon be published in the Epidemiological Bulletin. The current recommendation with information on practical implementation is here to find. Status: 04/01/2021 |
Originally Posted by VSLover
(Post 33155927)
you know what else is more than a typical easyjet fare? selecting a seat, checked bags, fast trak and a can of pringles.
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 33155863)
but I think this goes into the vaccine discrimination thing; e.g. forcing people to self isolate just because they haven’t been vaccinated. As the press says ‘two-tier’
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33152642)
I know you can do this on the English system, there is a cancel option online. In a way they really should make it easy to cancel since there are a range of circumstances when you can't / shouldn't get a vaccine.
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One of the worrying things about vaccine passports is indeed that pubs and/or travel may reopen for vaccinated people and that others may be left behind. I'm in my 30s, and I've been generally in favour of lockdowns and other measures, to protect the elderly and more vulnerable in society. But if it means being discriminated against now that things are opening up, when I can't yet get a vaccine, I won't be very happy (to be polite).
I have a feeling that BJ left it in his speech ambiguously to see what the reaction would be. From what I can see in my social circles, I wouldn't expect much compliance with new / renewed restrictions if that policy were to be enacted now. |
Originally Posted by Kgmm77
(Post 33155954)
You really aren’t going like it when you find out about the history of the Carte Jaune...
For covid we have a very different situation where that choice isn't available, for many of us we just have to wait and I expect I won't get any vaccine until May/June, and possibly the second does in late summer. Here, you are being discriminated against based on something you can do nothing about. |
Originally Posted by ft101
(Post 33155962)
I got through to the 0800 number with a workaround. Long recorded message but answered and dealt with quickly once through. Will call again when I return if I haven't been jabbed by then.
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Originally Posted by paulaf
(Post 33155976)
Its a shame the website doesn't let you amend a booking, it's only a cancel option and then rebook. We may have to reschedule our 2nd jabs so I guess it means a phone call whereas if they amended the website it would be easier.
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Yesterday the last SAGE meeting minutes from 31st March were posted online. Looking through it seems to be mostly discussion on various models about what will happen
https://www.gov.uk/government/collec...ngs-march-2021 Relevant for travellers: SPI-M-O considers slowing importation of new variants, such as B.1.351, into the UK a very important priority to allow for the next generation of vaccines to be developed. Whilst new vaccines can be developed, this will likely take many months. Measures to prevent and manage importation risks such as testing individuals, sequencing samples, and maintaining strict quarantine measures for those entering the country will remain important and may delay the spread of variants of concern. The central rollout scenario provided by the Cabinet Office is considerably slower, at an average of 2.7m doses per week in England until the end of July (2m thereafter), compared to 3.2m per week in the previous iteration (3.9m thereafter). 19. The models continue to show that retaining a baseline set of measures to reduce transmission after other restrictions have been lifted would significantly reduce the scale of a resurgence and is therefore almost certain to reduce the burden on the NHS and save many lives (high confidence). It is not possible to determine what set of measures or behaviour changes would equate to the transmission reductions modelled. These could include voluntary measures (for example, hygiene measures, mask wearing in certain situations, avoiding crowding), environmental measures (for example, ventilation), or test, trace, and isolate systems. |
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