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Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 32789291)
I was referring to the news reports today about what applies after their fire break.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54778942 How will travel ban work? Mr Drakeford stressed that people who live and work on different sides of the Wales-England border will still be able to travel between the two nations. The Welsh Government will introduce a "restricted list of essential purposes" to allow people to travel between the countries. He said "it will be the same broad system on both sides of the border". "People who live in Wales but work in England will have a reasonable reason for travelling to work," he said. "And people who live in England and work in Wales really clearly have a reasonable excuse for coming across the border to work here. "But it will be a restricted list of essential purposes, rather than the normal too-ing and fro-ing across the border that you would have seen in less fraught and difficult times". No trips abroad but holidays can happen in Wales The first minister says people living in Wales can go on holiday in Wales when the Covid firebreak comes to an end next week. People in Wales will be subject to the same ban on international travel as people in England. Mark Drakeford said: "I can confirm that people will be able to travel within Wales, they won't be confined to their local authority area as was the case during the firebreak." He added that "tourism will be able to reopen". |
Originally Posted by paulaf
(Post 32789278)
What's your cunning plan?
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
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If anyone close to me, relative or otherwise, is suffering anxiety, stress, bordering on a breakdown, and thinks my presence may help or is required, I will go and see them. End of. So, not a plan as such.
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Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 32789281)
I have a relative abroad currently in ICU. Things are looking stable but if things get worse/are looking really bad, is going to see a relative in ICU abroad allowed? I would only go if it is looking like, to be blunt, death is inevitable, so I can say goodbye. (I assume going for a funeral is fine.)
It's not difficult really - work allowed, leisure not allowed, socialisation not allowed, care and protection allowed. |
Indeed. Perhaps the test people should have in their heads is “how would I feel if Dominic Cummings did this?”! If the answer is outraged, dinnae dae it! If you would be okay with him doing it, on you go.
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So its started my outbound to TFS on 28th November is no longer for sale but a connection via MAD is still available, will that stick if I transfer to that?
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Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 32789276)
Have I seen correctly that people in Wales are banned not just from going to England but also from travel abroad, during the English lockdown?
Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 32789291)
I was referring to the news reports today about what applies after their fire break.
Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 32789302)
this is what was said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54778942 No trips abroad but holidays can happen in Wales The first minister says people living in Wales can go on holiday in Wales when the Covid firebreak comes to an end next week. People in Wales will be subject to the same ban on international travel as people in England. Mark Drakeford said: "I can confirm that people will be able to travel within Wales, they won't be confined to their local authority area as was the case during the firebreak." He added that "tourism will be able to reopen". |
Originally Posted by paulaf
(Post 32789457)
So its started my outbound to TFS on 28th November is no longer for sale but a connection via MAD is still available, will that stick if I transfer to that?
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Originally Posted by paulaf
(Post 32789271)
A shame mental health isn't considered "essential" by this government.
People will still be allowed to make visits to another person's home in Wales if they are concerned about their mental well-being, Mr Drakeford said. He explained that mental health was already a "reasonable excuse" to leave one's home and this would continue under the new rules taking effect when the firebreak lockdown in Wales ends next Monday. |
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I don't see anything specific relating to travel there - have I missed something?
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On my quick read through whilst sat on the bus it seems:
- movement restrictions like March, so you cannot leave home without reasonable excuse, there is a non-exhaustive list of things which are considered reasonable excuse - these include the obvious like going to buy food or going to any business which is allowed to be open, taking medical help - going to a remembrance service is allowed - Go to work where reasonably necessary and where it’s not reasonably possible for you to work at home - Returning home is ok if you were on holiday before the regulations come into force - Obvious restrictions on gatherings - Closure of places providing food and drink for consumption on premises Nothing specific on international travel (it’s possible this may be covered in amendments to the SI concerning travel corridors). However, if you leave home for the purposes of going on holiday (Regardless of whether you go abroad or not) you will have committed an offence since this is not likely to be deemed a reasonable excuse. In a sense we are back to where we were in March, albeit the reasons you can leave home are a bit broader now. |
Originally Posted by designzer123
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I don't see anything specific relating to travel there - have I missed something?
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Originally Posted by KARFA
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See above, you would already commit an offence leaving home if you were leaving for leisure travel since it’s not likely to be deemed a reasonable excuse. Clearly going in to an airport which is heavily policed is likely to add additional possiblity of scrutiny.
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