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Italy98 Oct 1, 2010 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by etch5895 (Post 11201064)
One would hope in situations like that (multiple full loads arriving at the same time), the CBP supervisor would inspire his/her officers to make the process as quick as possible so people can catch their onward connections. (Meaning: no 20 questions, scan the passport, stamp it and hand it back).

Sadly, I doubt it.

On return to ATL from EZE last month there were a number of Intl in-bounds arriving together. As you stated, sadly, the CBP supervisor did nothing to movtivate his/her subordinates to expedite the process. I timed a number of pax who endured a five minute + CBP process. :( :td:

paule123 Oct 1, 2010 10:07 pm


Originally Posted by MIA-SAT (Post 14871173)
... Agent 2 told me that as a GE member, I was subject to random pullouts of the line.

I don't remember being told such a thing during my interview. Do you mean because you're a GE member, you're subject to random pullouts, or anybody going through customs in general is subject to a random pullout? Somewhat devalues the program if fee was paid, an extensive background check was subjected to, but we are still susceptible to "random" secondary screening. (CBP secondary screening being more serious and time consuming than the cursory secondary screening by the TSA elves)

FriendlySkies Oct 1, 2010 10:43 pm


Originally Posted by paule123 (Post 14872024)
I don't remember being told such a thing during my interview. Do you mean because you're a GE member, you're subject to random pullouts, or anybody going through customs in general is subject to a random pullout? Somewhat devalues the program if fee was paid, an extensive background check was subjected to, but we are still susceptible to "random" secondary screening. (CBP secondary screening being more serious and time consuming than the cursory secondary screening by the TSA elves)

+1

The CBP Officer that did my interview (nicest I've ever met) did not mention anything about being randomly pulled for secondary. Sounds like BS to me :mad:

MIA-SAT Oct 2, 2010 12:06 am


Originally Posted by wilp888 (Post 14871656)
I had a problem one time with my fingerprint scan and got the "X". However, when I went to the CBP agent at the nearest line, the agent had no idea it was the fingerprints that caused the "X" and in fact asked me if I knew what the problem was. So, yes, Agent one wasn't exactly being truthful. When I exited Customs, the agent just took a look at the receipt and waved me through. I think your experience stems from poor training on the part of the agents. BTW, which airport was this?

MIA. BTW, spoke to a buddy of mine after I posted and he raised another possibilty that had not occurred to me. This was my 6th trip to Colombia in the last year. He thought the frequency of my visits to Colombia under Global Entry might trigger the X treatment. I have no idea.

SGJazz Oct 4, 2010 3:46 pm

Thought I would share my experience with the GE application process. I applied 1 week ago, was preliminarily approved 5 days later and just got back from the interview. I was asked to confirm information already given and asked about my frequency of travel abroad and to which countries I have been. I am self employed so I brought along my tax return, I recommend this as I was asked for proof of self employment. I was told it takes 24-48 hours for final approval, it took 2 hours. No card, just use my passport in the kiosk.

Piece of cake;)

c565656 Oct 4, 2010 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by MIA-SAT (Post 14871173)
Foolishly again I thought I could rely on what Agent 2 said, wrong. At customs exit at baggage claim, I was asked why I had not filled out a paper customs form, I told him that I had just been told by Agent 2 that the CBP stamp the back of my GE receipt was sufficient and was told by Agent 3 that if I ever got bounced again I should fill out a paper form.

Just a data point: during my enrollment interview today, I was told by the CBP officer that the only time I'd need to fill out a paper form is if the kiosks are down for maintenance, software update, etc.

Agent 3's advice also doesn't make sense because s/he is basically saying that any "declaration" answer (>$10,000 currency, bringing food, etc.) would require a paper customs form [because it would result in an "X" receipt]. That's definitely what Global Entry is intended to do.

On another note, it seems from previous comments and my experience today that the Global Entry enrollment offices are staffed by really nice CBP officers...too bad they all can't be that friendly!

UALfromMSN Oct 5, 2010 11:07 am

another data point: applied mid September, approved 5 days later. Had my interview just the other day, and the CBP officer I dealt with was fantastic and friendly. Nothing but good things to say about this group.

Plus, my parking stub said door to door, it took only 21 minutes. I've stood on line at Immigration longer than that, but no more.

drewguy Oct 5, 2010 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by MIA-SAT (Post 14871173)
I obtained my Global Entry approval nearly a year ago. I had my first trip to secondary interview at immigration without having declared something. I did not even get to the second screen at the GE kiosk and the slip with the big X printed. Foolishly thinking that I should do what I was told during my GE interview to do when this should happen, and go to the closest window to the GE exit, I was told to go back to the regular lines.

Fortunately, the lines were still short. It was a bit disappointing to be fibbed to by the agent at the immigration line who told me that there was a fingerprint problem, I replied that this was interesting because the machine said all the prints were fine. Then I heard that they were having a problem with "that" kiosk. Agent one leads me to the secondary intereview room and my guess is that I was the sole US citizen in that room judging by what I saw and heard.

About 20 minutes or so later, I was called to a booth in the secondary room and Agent 2 told me that as a GE member, I was subject to random pullouts of the line. I told him that I was aware of that fact because I was told that during my interview. He went through the customs form questions, stamped the back of my big X'd receipt from the kiosk with the CBP stamp and told me to show the form at the exit of immigration.

Foolishly again I thought I could rely on what Agent 2 said, wrong. At customs exit at baggage claim, I was asked why I had not filled out a paper customs form, I told him that I had just been told by Agent 2 that the CBP stamp the back of my GE receipt was sufficient and was told by Agent 3 that if I ever got bounced again I should fill out a paper form.

Despite the obvious lack of truthfulness of the first CBP agent and the 20 minute delay, the rest of the CPB crew that I dealt with was courteous. (You would think that Agent 1 just could have said that I had been bounced to secondary randomly, rather than tell the whopper about the fingerprint scans.) I do not and did not today do anything that might jeopardize my GE registration, and I guess that I was due for a random stop. The good news is that all of the others who were in secondary when I arrived were still waiting when I was allowed to leave, at least I had some priority for my status to be resolved. Bags were so delayed that my bag still had not arrived when I got to the carousel before customs.

So here is a data point for a ramdom stop of a GE registrant.

While perhaps they were "fibbing" (or were lacking "truthfulness") it seems like you hit a combination of misinformation and lack of familiarity with the program in a way that created the "perfect storm" of messups.

loofa133 Oct 6, 2010 7:20 am

As a quick data point, wife and I filled in our applications on a Sunday evening and were approved on Wednesday evening. Did our interview the following week before a trip for Europe. Fairly simple process.

Used it to get into Dulles on Sunday. Lines were very long with numerous Mid East flights landing at the same time. Surprisingly, the lines exiting customs where you hand them the stamped form were extremely long. Customs was quizzing everyone again about their declarations. Luckily the crew/Global Entry line was empty. We handed the print out and they told us to have a nice day. No interrogations or wait. Very pleased.

lazoh Oct 7, 2010 8:54 am


Originally Posted by MIA-SAT (Post 14872303)
MIA. BTW, spoke to a buddy of mine after I posted and he raised another possibilty that had not occurred to me. This was my 6th trip to Colombia in the last year. He thought the frequency of my visits to Colombia under Global Entry might trigger the X treatment. I have no idea.

I truly beleive that your issue was becuase it was Miami!!! The CBP officers at the Miami Airport are not the best, as a matter of fact I dare to say that they are the worst in the entire USA.

sfo Oct 7, 2010 9:59 am

Perhaps a contradiciton in the "food department" as I understand it now the question asked at the kiosk breaks down the type of food items that must be declared. However, since one is still required to fill out a paper form, just in case, that form does not break down food items, it just shows food, so if one proceeds to the exit with food items permitted, such as candy, crackers etc. with the printed slip with no X and the officer decides to check your luggage and finds this food, and questions why you do not have an X on your printed slip and then you show him the blue form with the food checked, could this not be a small problem? One would have to explain the breakdown of the food items at the kiosk vs no breakdown on the blue form.

GoingAway Oct 7, 2010 11:24 am

Wirelessly posted (goingaway\'s phone: BlackBerry8900/4.6.1.231 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Who says a paper is required?

DevilDog438 Oct 7, 2010 11:49 am


Originally Posted by GoingAway (Post 14904138)
Wirelessly posted (goingaway\'s phone: BlackBerry8900/4.6.1.231 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Who says a paper is required?

IIRC, it is not required, but is recommended, specifically for the cases where the kiosks are inoperable for any reason.

VPescado Oct 8, 2010 9:57 am


Originally Posted by DevilDog438 (Post 14904301)
IIRC, it is not required, but is recommended, specifically for the cases where the kiosks are inoperable for any reason.

Note that unlike GE, a written declaration *is* required for Nexus.

sfo Oct 8, 2010 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by GoingAway (Post 14904138)
Wirelessly posted (goingaway\'s phone: BlackBerry8900/4.6.1.231 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Who says a paper is required?

The customs officers at my interview said that if the kiosks were not working then a blue customs form would be "needed" "required" "suggested" whatever word you want to choose.


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