KathyWdrf

Julie, I think you missed the point entirely.

The post you were responding to, by the-ca-goat, was OBVIOUSLY and INTENTIONALLY humorous.

If you keep responding to humorous posts as though they are serious, you will be perceived to be a dunce and (eventually) will not be taken seriously yourself.

I'm not saying you ARE a dunce, of course (as that would be flaming you), merely that you seem to be unable to recognize obvious humor in others' posts, and that will lead to your being perceived in a negative way.


Kathy

KathyWdrf

I should add that one reason I thought the-ca-goat's humor was so obvious is the fact that virtually all hotels in the USA (as well as many overseas) have a Bible in the room, placed there by the Gideon Society. It's usually in the nightstand drawer.

Thus, if one were THAT offended by the presence of said book, one would have to eschew hotel stays entirely and resort to youth hostels, campgrounds, or park benches!

I've also noticed that the Marriott chain adds the Book of Mormon to the religious-library-in-a-nightstand. (OK, there's also usually a book on the history of the Marriott chain or somesuch as well, perhaps to compete with Conrad Hilton's "Be My Guest.")

Just FYI, none of these "undocumented benefits" offends me in the slightest!


Kathy

ranles

Bearx220

Please avoid posting facts on this subject (as I have), it confuses the some people complaining about something they know nothing about!

It suits their narrow thought process to label the cards, even in total error. It dilutes the meaning of their posts. I was generous enough to post the organization they can join to further their efforts to end this activity by AS.

For over 20 years these cards have been a part of AS. It is not going to change. Don't like it, don't read them, don't fly AS, but also don't put down people that chose to believe in the bible and its teachings. No one is trying to convert anyone with these "feel good" versus. If your faith, what ever it is or isn't can be "corrupted" by reading a short verse once, then your not too stong in your faith.

This country was founded on the belief in God. Our money, oaths, and our pledge alligence is filled with God. No one says you have to believe in God, but the majority of America does. Efforts by a minority not withstanding, America will continue to be a haven for all religious beliefs, but "one nation under God".

csb

I've always gotten a great kick out of the fact that this "righteous" organization is also the single biggest disributor of pornography in the world.

birdstrike

not quite...

http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/federalist/

"IN GOD WE TRUST" was added in 1909

Pledge of Allegiance

"One Nation, Under God". was added in 1954



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zurbec

aside from one's personal opinions on the merits of this practice, I really am interested in knowing if this is current practice at UA,CO,or DL? Sounds like a no for AC and AA, I have been on NW and european carriers for the past few years, so not up on current domestic service among the big carriers.

without adding fuel to the fire, I do wonder what market AS is after with the east coast expansion, adding South Beach, P-Town, Manhattan, to SF, LA, and Palm Springs.... sounds like a circuit party to me!

KathyWdrf

I don't recall seeing any Scripture quotes on ANY carrier I've flown on (the main one being UA, but also AA, DL, and others). I've never flown Alaska and was unaware of the practice till I saw this thread. I don't think it would influence my decision to fly Alaska one way or the other.


Kathy

loomis

I would just like to thank Zurbec for bringing this fine policy to my attention. I try to support any company that encourages Christian faith and I will try to fly AS whenever I can. Thanks for making me aware, Zurbec.

VPescado

You might also be interested in IN N' OUT Burgers (in California). They put bible quotes (well actually citations and not the quotes themselves) in the various burger, fry, and drink packaging.

What is really weird is that they tend to hide them, often under a part of the wrapper that has another piece glued over it, so you need to peel back the paper to see the cite (or wait until the grease soaks through).

Kinda weird, but they make great hamburgers.

bestnana2

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a religious tract on my tray. That might be the very day I might need it. I have gone into public restrooms before and have seen tracts of others than my own belief. I don't let that offend me, but neither do I pick it up.

What is it with all of this recent generation's "it offends me" or "it might offend others"? Bull! The way I see it, you are letting others control your attitude.

BearX220

Clarify. Marriott or the Mormons?

amanuensis

Perhaps that was when the motto was legally codified, but it appears to me that the statement was viewed as being the country's motto much earlier than that, at least since the War of 1812. Recall that it was then that Francis Scott Key wrote what is now the national anthem. In the third verse are these words "and this be our motto 'in God is our trust'".

SRQ Guy

I fail to see how it's remotely possible to be even slightly offended by a piece of paper with a Bible verse on it. If you don't like it, don't read it, or don't fly AS. I'm sure they really miss the 7 people nationwide who are "offended" by it. I think some people CHOOSE to be easily offended by such insignificant events out of some feeling of righteousness or something. Cry me a river.

csb

Easy to say when it's your faith that's being pushed on a captive audience. My hunch is that many conservative christians would have an anurism if a large American corporation chose to hand out religious quotes (or secular humanist quotes in the latter case) from the Koran, the Hindu holy book or John Lennon. I can just see the righteous Pat Robertson praying for god to take out the infidel board members of said corporation.

SRQ Guy

That's quite an assumption you've made.

I am not a Christian, by the way.

Ah, the evil "conservative christians" rearing their ugly heads again I see. Those "conservative Christians" would be just as wrong to be "offended" by seeing Koran verses on their tray as "liberal nonchristians" are in being "offended" by Bible verses.

Since when did the "conservative christians" become the arbiters of good behavior for "liberal nonchristians"? Your best argument is that since they might be upset at a corporation giving out Koran verses, it's ok to have a conniption over Bible verses? Come on you can do better than that!

Lastly, before dragging out the ever-so cliche "conservative christians", please show me one (just 1!) example of "conservative christians" claiming to be "offended" by seeing Koran verses (or other holy book verses) being handed out in a corporate setting.

"Liberal non-christians" drive me into hysterics when they preach "tolerance" all the while slamming everyone who believes differently than they do, most especially the arch-evil "conservative christians".