Window Shade Etiquette
#76

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Can this be a US centric problem? My thousands of flying hours on EU3 metal have never been crossed by a request to shut the blind on a day flight, although I do close it for an "overnight" even if it's day light outside. Maybe we're not quite so superglued to a screen over here and the eye shades I have used when I've wanted to doze have been quite acceptable in letting no light in at all.
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Can this be a US centric problem? My thousands of flying hours on EU3 metal have never been crossed by a request to shut the blind on a day flight, although I do close it for an "overnight" even if it's day light outside. Maybe we're not quite so superglued to a screen over here and the eye shades I have used when I've wanted to doze have been quite acceptable in letting no light in at all.
Don't understand why someone would ever need an FA to make such a basic request of a fellow passenger.
#78


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I've got the opposite problem tbh. With claustrophobia, having the window shades down is really hard to bear so I tend to get window seats and keep them open pretty much no matter what. While I've taken crap for it in the past, its better than having to pull back to the gate for anxiety.
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It depends where you're sitting on the plane too. Especially if you're on/just behind the wing, the glare reflecting off the wing can be pretty strong. On a recent TATL I had the 'amusing' experience of going almost blind when just looking to my left. I think the whole row sighed relief when I (politely) asked the lady in the A-seat of my row to close her shade. She had been so occupied by her book that she had not once looked up or noticed the bright lights.
Don't understand why someone would ever need an FA to make such a basic request of a fellow passenger.
Don't understand why someone would ever need an FA to make such a basic request of a fellow passenger.
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Maybe he just shouldn't fly long-haul red-eyes.
There are primarily-daytime alternatives on pretty much every route out there, even if there are some where the overnight flights are the main options.
If you've got a flight leaving at say, 10AM or noon, and you're complaining about the light and not being able to sleep, it's particularly disingenuous. Even with a 12-hour long-haul, that's going to be primarily waking hours for someone on the local clock.
There are primarily-daytime alternatives on pretty much every route out there, even if there are some where the overnight flights are the main options.
If you've got a flight leaving at say, 10AM or noon, and you're complaining about the light and not being able to sleep, it's particularly disingenuous. Even with a 12-hour long-haul, that's going to be primarily waking hours for someone on the local clock.
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The FA dimmed the cabin (no shades on this 787, just tinted windows), but you can manually control the tint - I didn't 'open' it all the way, just enough to see out of, and the FA seemed fine with that. It was the middle of the day (based on our destination time) so being awake (even if others felt it was still the middle of the night departure time) is valid IMO - the sooner you get on to destination time, the less jet lag will bother you.
On other flights, e.g. Trans-Atlantic overnight, I have seen amazing arrays of stars, so clear, thousands upon thousands of them, absolutely breathtaking. I haven't been lucky enough to see the Northern Lights from a flight, but I imagine that would be spectacular.
One of my favourite views when flying is the approach over the UK coming in to Heathrow from N. America. Seeing the first cliffs of Cornwall, then the farmlands of the home counties, and, if you are really lucky, the approach up the Thames where you can see the Houses of Parliament, Tower of London, Tower Bridge etc. It's home to me, and I love watching it.
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When looking out the window, I think a lot of people get so concerned with looking at the ground that they forget to look straight out and above. I love clouds! i love to watch for other planes - flying along side, crossing paths, speeding by in the opposite direction. Or the numerouse stars you can see on a dark night. But nothing beast the full moon over moonlit clouds.
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#84




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As a serious suggestion - if you have issues with reading in a darkened cabin, I highly recommend investing in a Kindle Paperwhite or Kindle Voyage. It will allow you to increase the font size larger than an ordinary printed book, and the screen backlight gets surprisingly bright at its highest setting. It will likely improve your reading experience both at home and while traveling, regardless of ambient lighting conditions.
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As a serious suggestion - if you have issues with reading in a darkened cabin, I highly recommend investing in a Kindle Paperwhite or Kindle Voyage. It will allow you to increase the font size larger than an ordinary printed book, and the screen backlight gets surprisingly bright at its highest setting. It will likely improve your reading experience both at home and while traveling, regardless of ambient lighting conditions.
). I'd imagine the Voyage is even nicer if you're willing to spend $200 on an e-reader.
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So I am choosing seats for a flight cross country east to west. I can choose a window seat on either side of the plane. There are more interesting things to see on the A side of the plane, but that is going to be the side the sun is shining in from. I can choose the F side to avoid the sun factor, but then I won't get to see those interesting parts.
So, do I give up watching what I want to watch so that the other passengers can get to watch what they want to watch? Does the fact that hey can watch those same shows and movies from home too, but I can't see the ground from my living room factor in?
So, do I give up watching what I want to watch so that the other passengers can get to watch what they want to watch? Does the fact that hey can watch those same shows and movies from home too, but I can't see the ground from my living room factor in?

