I just might SNAP if another person cuts in front of me!
#61
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I've never understood the urge to be first onboard. Who the hell wants to sit inside a pressurized aliminum tube any longer then they have to. I think I've been dead last to walk onto my flights about 99% of time. Seems to me most need to get on first because they get off on having people look at them up in first/business. Sad.
#62
Join Date: Oct 2006
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You'll have an aneurysm if you ever go to the Former Soviet Union. Trying explaining what a line is to a Russian or Ukrainian.
#63
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 27
I've never understood the urge to be first onboard. Who the hell wants to sit inside a pressurized aliminum tube any longer then they have to. I think I've been dead last to walk onto my flights about 99% of time. Seems to me most need to get on first because they get off on having people look at them up in first/business. Sad.
-I have walked down from the club at the right time to board the plane
-there is nowhere else to sit, as US airport have woeful seating at gates
-I need the overhead space, since 25% of F is usually filled with FA luggage
This can be resolved:
-call the flight at the right time
-have adequate gate seating
-don't allow FAs to store luggage in paying customers overhead space
Also the number one cause of gate lice behavior is one single announcement 'In a few minutes we will begin pre-boarding......', why bother making the annnouncement?
#64
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SEA/PBI/SVO/DME
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For me, it is really simple
-I have walked down from the club at the right time to board the plane
-there is nowhere else to sit, as US airport have woeful seating at gates
-I need the overhead space, since 25% of F is usually filled with FA luggage
This can be resolved:
-call the flight at the right time
-have adequate gate seating
-don't allow FAs to store luggage in paying customers overhead space
Also the number one cause of gate lice behavior is one single announcement 'In a few minutes we will begin pre-boarding......', why bother making the annnouncement?
-I have walked down from the club at the right time to board the plane
-there is nowhere else to sit, as US airport have woeful seating at gates
-I need the overhead space, since 25% of F is usually filled with FA luggage
This can be resolved:
-call the flight at the right time
-have adequate gate seating
-don't allow FAs to store luggage in paying customers overhead space
Also the number one cause of gate lice behavior is one single announcement 'In a few minutes we will begin pre-boarding......', why bother making the annnouncement?
We all have our own quirks, fair enough. The next time you're waiting to take off and the FA is waiting on one more person to board the plane, odds are it's probably me, your welcome to curse me out I'm used to it
#65
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SNA
Programs: UA 1P, A|Club G, DL SM, SPG G
Posts: 383
I personally ask people if they're in line for a specific group and try to gauge the end of the line by answers. If I cut someone, it's certainly because the gate needs to be deloused. I can understand the desire to stand after a 14 hour flight while waiting for a connect, but people can go stand somewhere else. I would hope that nobody would sit and steam over me cutting them and would just let me know that I had so I could correct myself. What I really wish is that the GAs would be more firm and tell people to clear the .... out.
As far as the mention of luggage having a correlation with respect shown by others, I too sometimes pack my daypack instead of a roller if I'm going overseas. It's just easier to maneuver if I'm going to be mobile. People certainly try to cut me since I look very young and have a half sleeve. Clearly a guy dressed like that couldn't be in F! Of course, my daypack probably cost more than some middle manager's cheap suit... My former boss used to get the same treatment from old stuffed shirts as he sat in first class to Japan with his washed-out punk tee shirts and flannel buttondown. In our industry, nobody really cares how you dress or how you look. It's normal to dress however you want to the office.
I really don't know why old, overweight men would want to mess with the guy who looks like he doesn't take any ...., but whatever. If someone really wants to cut in line, I just correct them firmly and figure they must be a miserable human being if they do it often.
As far as the mention of luggage having a correlation with respect shown by others, I too sometimes pack my daypack instead of a roller if I'm going overseas. It's just easier to maneuver if I'm going to be mobile. People certainly try to cut me since I look very young and have a half sleeve. Clearly a guy dressed like that couldn't be in F! Of course, my daypack probably cost more than some middle manager's cheap suit... My former boss used to get the same treatment from old stuffed shirts as he sat in first class to Japan with his washed-out punk tee shirts and flannel buttondown. In our industry, nobody really cares how you dress or how you look. It's normal to dress however you want to the office.
I really don't know why old, overweight men would want to mess with the guy who looks like he doesn't take any ...., but whatever. If someone really wants to cut in line, I just correct them firmly and figure they must be a miserable human being if they do it often.
#66
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: RDU, Delta GM/1MM, Hilton Diamond (for now), Bonvoy Titanium
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#67
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I agree - and people need to BACK UP OFF THE LINE before their zone is called. Often I am in first class and there's ten elite lice blocking the sky priority line so I can't board even when it's my right to do so before the others. I have no problem cutting in front. People still give me the evil eye anyway. Simply because they don't know the rules/procedures.
I hate sky priority. Boarding should be segmented by status level, end of story. Why should some platinum or gold be allowed to line up before me? That's what causes the gate lice syndrome anyway.
I hate sky priority. Boarding should be segmented by status level, end of story. Why should some platinum or gold be allowed to line up before me? That's what causes the gate lice syndrome anyway.
#68
Join Date: Dec 2003
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If you are in a first bulkhead on say a MD88 many times you can't find a spot for your bag until row 10 if you don't get on in the first few people - which is a pain when you get off.
#69
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: PWM/BOS/MHT
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Posts: 252
Not trying to hijack the thread but this has happened to me several times....How about when you're in the Security Line and someone bee lines right by everybody without saying excuse me. Of course when they're questioned it's "I'm late for my flight", without making eye contact. No thanks, no nothing. Last year this happened in BOS in the DL Priority Line. 15 minutes later I run into this schlub in the SC. Not only was he relaxing with a beverage...he was on my flight in FC to MSP, and we had plenty of time to make the flight! I was on my best non confrontational and didn't confront him...I look back and wish I did.
#70
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Daytona Beach
Posts: 586
+1
Sometimes, when people cut in front of me in line, I say loudly and to no one in particular "I must be invisible today". The line cutters either ignore me or say something like I'm sorry and then move. But saying it loudly, I bring their rude behavior to the attention of everyone near me.
#71
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 785
Wall-leaning lice at DFW
These wall-leaners were in Zone 2 or later and they were there before the incoming flight even arrived - probably about 90 minutes before boarding. The guy in front on a very important call was in Zone 4, but I heard him tell the agent he had "special needs" when he ran up during PREM boarding after me (I was in first on that flight) - no idea what those needs were as he was moving about just fine.
One thing to note - they obviously have major amounts of carryon baggage and are desperate for overhead space. Except for turqoise Sam. I also like DYKWIA jeans dude smack in the middle of it all as if the wall-leaning line matters not to him. He's walking right through the second the GA shows up, he'll have you know.
One thing to note - they obviously have major amounts of carryon baggage and are desperate for overhead space. Except for turqoise Sam. I also like DYKWIA jeans dude smack in the middle of it all as if the wall-leaning line matters not to him. He's walking right through the second the GA shows up, he'll have you know.
#72
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: AA, DL
Posts: 326
-outfit planes with larger overhead storage bins
#75
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,877
How about GA's and FA's start, hold your breath here, enforcing the rules:
a) One carry-on and one personal item, period.
b) Carry-on doesn't fit in the template thingy, gate-check, period.
c) Y PAX stowing items in FC OH: "Sorry sir, these bins are for FC PAX, here's your bag."
d) "Sorry sir, we are boarding Zone 1, please step aside and wait until we call Zone 4."
e) When flying Southwest: "Sorry sir, next in line is A2, you are A15, please step aside and wait your turn."
The less the rules are enforced, the more DYKWIA folks are going to intentionally break them for their own self-gain.
Last edited by DelrayChris; Jul 2, 2010 at 1:42 pm