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stifle Jan 6, 2014 2:33 pm
Originally Posted by dolfinco (Post 22097584)
Im fairly new to this forum but an avid traveller. On another few threads people have came up with great Bus Class fares from Dub-JFK-MCO however i would rather have a better final destination.

Does the KVS tool allow you to see the above fare rules to easily work out if there are other destination options ?
It does when it's working properly. Right now it isn't.

Avnu Jan 6, 2014 2:57 pm
Originally Posted by dolfinco (Post 22097584)
Im fairly new to this forum but an avid traveller. On another few threads people have came up with great Bus Class fares from Dub-JFK-MCO however i would rather have a better final destination.

Does the KVS tool allow you to see the above fare rules to easily work out if there are other destination options ?
Yes and no. Fare rules are often the same or quite similar for a whole list of destinations, but in my experience they will never present you with a list of possible destinations. So you'd have to try a few places to see if anything similar comes up.

If you want to see whether there are other possibilities to get from DUB to MCO, then yes, KVS can - when it works - show you the routing rules attached to a certain fare which can help you find different or additional stopovers.

dolfinco Jan 6, 2014 3:33 pm
Originally Posted by Avnu (Post 22098001)
Yes and no. Fare rules are often the same or quite similar for a whole list of destinations, but in my experience they will never present you with a list of possible destinations. So you'd have to try a few places to see if anything similar comes up.

If you want to see whether there are other possibilities to get from DUB to MCO, then yes, KVS can - when it works - show you the routing rules attached to a certain fare which can help you find different or additional stopovers.
Thanks. I thought it would be that and probably not of any value to me at this stage then.

BangkokTraveler Jan 6, 2014 4:48 pm
KVS shows this availability. But every booking engine, including United.com, only offers me a W seat. Can anyone explain?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
Code:
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
LAS  Las Vegas McCarran Intl NV US [KLAS]
FRI  31 Jan 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
UA        1134    ORD  12:10    LAS  14:08    738      F9 C9 A9 D9 Z7 P5 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W1 S1 T1 L1 K1 G1 N1

st1575 Jan 6, 2014 5:08 pm
Originally Posted by BangkokTraveler (Post 22098814)
KVS shows this availability. But every booking engine, including United.com, only offers me a W seat. Can anyone explain?
Just because there is availability in a particular class for this flight doesn't mean that there is an eligible fare for it at the moment. If the KVS were showing fares, you could cross-check this and the applicable rules.

stifle Jan 7, 2014 3:09 am
Could be any number of reasons.
  1. No W class fare defined between your start and end points.
  2. You don't meet the advance reservation, minimum stay, or maximum stay rules for a W fare
  3. W fare not available on your return leg (if a roundtrip) and the fare you are using for your return is non-combinable with a W fare, or vice-versa
  4. You are booking for two or more people and only 1 W fare is offered
  5. KVS listing is out of date
  6. KVS listing relates to a different point of sale than that which you are looking to book from
  7. Married segments
  8. Starnet blocking

OK maybe not the last one.

BostonFlyer1624 Jan 7, 2014 12:21 pm
Help?
 
:-:

Question:

I'm thinking about getting KVS.

Are there any airlines that have restricted access or just simply never show up on KVS? I'll be doing a lot of BOS-ATH searching, using multiple via points to get there. Thanks!

croberts134 Jan 8, 2014 2:06 am
Originally Posted by stifle (Post 22101591)
Could be any number of reasons.
  1. No W class fare defined between your start and end points.
  2. You don't meet the advance reservation, minimum stay, or maximum stay rules for a W fare
  3. W fare not available on your return leg (if a roundtrip) and the fare you are using for your return is non-combinable with a W fare, or vice-versa
  4. You are booking for two or more people and only 1 W fare is offered
  5. KVS listing is out of date
  6. KVS listing relates to a different point of sale than that which you are looking to book from
  7. Married segments
  8. Starnet blocking
I believe the poster of this particular question was wondering why there is availability below W class, but united.com only gives him/her a W class fare. In this case, there are fares cheaper than W in the market, but the routing rules require travel through IAH or DEN. The cheaper fares are not allowed on the non-stop service.

KVS Jan 9, 2014 1:52 am
Originally Posted by BostonFlyer1624 (Post 22104753)
Question:

I'm thinking about getting KVS.

Are there any airlines that have restricted access or just simply never show up on KVS? I'll be doing a lot of BOS-ATH searching, using multiple via points to get there. Thanks!
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q1 and make sure that you are meeting the rules of the lower Fares:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:
CHI  Chicago Metro IL US = ORD MDW RFD
LAS  Las Vegas McCarran Intl NV US [KLAS]
R/T  31 Jan 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
UA        CHI    LAS      312  USD    14 Days            LAU14KS      24 Dec-26 Mar
UA        CHI    LAS      330  USD    21 Days            LA21KN      24 Dec-26 Mar
UA        CHI    LAS      330  USD    14 Days            TAU14KS      18 Jan-21 May
UA        CHI    LAS      330  USD    21 Days            LA21KN      18 Jan-21 May
UA        CHI    LAS      349  USD    14 Days            TAG14KS      18 Jan-21 May
UA        CHI    LAS      440  USD    14 Days            SA14KN      18 Jan-21 May
UA        CHI    LAS      441  USD    14 Days            WAK14QS      22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      478  USD    14 Days            WA14QS      22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      510  USD    14 Days            WA14KN      22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      593  USD    14 Days            QA14KN      22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      690  USD    7 Days            HA7KN        22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      949  USD        ***            EA0KY        22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      1051  USD    14 Days            V2UP14N3    22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      1135  USD        ***            MA0FY        22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      1237  USD    7 Days            Q2UP7Y3      22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      1431  USD        ***            H2UPY3      22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      1506  USD        ***            BA0FY        22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      2232  USD        ***            YUA          22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      2985  USD        ***            FUA          22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS      2985  USD        ***            YUAUP3      22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS    10847  USD        ***            Y            22 Jan-10 May
UA        CHI    LAS    14462  USD        ***            F            22 Jan-10 May

KVS Jan 9, 2014 1:53 am
Originally Posted by kalendil (Post 22083325)
Is there any delay/lag/discrepancy between what KVS shows for award availability via the StarAlliance7D function vs the web-based ANA tool?
No, that would be technically impossible.

KVS Jan 9, 2014 1:56 am
Resolved: [Fares/PSH] Method Issues
 
[Fares/PSH] Method issues have now been resolved.

Please restart the KVS Tool if necessary.

VictorXray Jan 9, 2014 7:16 pm
Hello KVS, is there a code for a long time FTers avail? I've tried YGPM on Diamond option and it says that it's not valid.

Thanx a lot, regards,
Victor

VictorXray Jan 9, 2014 7:16 pm
deleted.....(double posting by accident)

pdrollins Jan 9, 2014 11:52 pm
Flights to Bkk via NRT
 
I'm trying to use KVS to find some good fares from Mia to Bkk on AA around Feb 10th. Using the Fares/PSH, I see some good fares. When I check Availability, I see Flights on AA to LHR then on TG to Bkk.
How can I see the availability of AA flights to Bkk via NRT?

stifle Jan 10, 2014 12:25 am
Originally Posted by pdrollins (Post 22123518)
I'm trying to use KVS to find some good fares from Mia to Bkk on AA around Feb 10th. Using the Fares/PSH, I see some good fares. When I check Availability, I see Flights on AA to LHR then on TG to Bkk.
How can I see the availability of AA flights to Bkk via NRT?
I would suggest searching one leg at a time for that.


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