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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
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directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
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http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
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https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
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https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
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http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
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Jul 17, 2011 | 12:08 pm

#4246

garaba2

Join Date: Apr 2010

Location: Madison, WI (ORD)

Programs: United, AA, BA, SPG

Posts: 21

CO award in EVA?

Can I see CO award availability in Eva Air using KVS Tool?
I saw BR is supported by KVS, but I don't know how to do it. I have a diamond membership.
thanks

Jul 17, 2011 | 12:52 pm

#4247

KVS

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by britinva79

More and more I am traveling with just my ipad2 and sometimes it is useful to be able to check award availability but the mobile app does not seem to support that.

The Mobile Companion is designed to handle the most common on-the-go tasks (currently Flight Availability, Timetables, Operational Flight Info; Seat Maps are coming soon), and is not intended as a replacement for the main KVS Tool application.

Quote:

Originally Posted by britinva79

Any thoughts on when it might be available or if there's another way of checking awards when traveling and not using a PC?

Have you considered installing the KVS Tool on a MacBook Air?

Jul 17, 2011 | 12:54 pm

#4248

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garaba2

Can I see CO award availability in Eva Air using KVS Tool?
I saw BR is supported by KVS, but I don't know how to do it. I have a diamond membership.
thanks

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgrad...es_NonAlliance for the current list of Non-Alliance airlines, for which Award Availability is currently supported.

Jul 17, 2011 | 1:05 pm

#4249

KVS

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK

Hi KVS,

Been a while since I posted here, still loving the tool after all these years.

Maybe it's because it's Sunday morning in Sydney and I had a few too many last night, but in searching flights I came up with the following:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.2.0/Diamond - Amadeus Operational Info: US 662/18 Sep 2011]

Code:

US AIRWAYS - US 662

[Planned Flight Info]
DEN-PHX         12:15/Sun - 13:04/Sun  01:49
PHX-SNA         13:55/Sun - 15:12/Sun  01:17

[Flight Notes]
PHX-SNA         DEPARTS TERMINAL 4
DEN-PHX         ARRIVES TERMINAL 4
DEN-SNA         CLASSES SHOWN FAYBMHQNVWLSTGKUER
DEN-PHX         MCT FLIGHT TRACKING D/D
DEN-SNA         MCT FLIGHT TRACKING D/D
PHX-SNA         MCT FLIGHT TRACKING D/D
DEN-PHX         ON-TIME PERF 8MAY11
PHX-SNA         ON-TIME PERF 9MAY11
                SECURED FLIGHT
                ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
DEN-PHX         081/006/N/000/ MAY11
PHX-SNA         090/006/N/000/ MAY11

What doe the last two lines mean? I can't for the life of me decipher it. Is it something around on-time performance or open seats or ...

I did a google search, searched this thread, and searched the KVS website and came up with donuts.

The on-time performance decoding info has now been added to http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Features

Jul 19, 2011 | 3:54 pm

#4250

britinva79

Join Date: Jul 2009

Location: Washington DC

Programs: Lifetime Globalist - Hyatt

Posts: 356

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Have you considered installing the KVS Tool on a MacBook Air?

I do not have a MacBook Air so have not considered it. I have a netbook which has KVS on there but I'm hoping someday not to have to carry that as well as my ipad. Would be great if there was an ipad app someday! Love the tool though.

Jul 20, 2011 | 2:54 am

#4251

jasonvr

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: So Cal

Programs: UA 1K/0.828MM, WN ALP, Hyatt Diamond, MR Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC,AA Gold

Posts: 5,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by britinva79

Any way you can VPN and/or Remote Desktop into a PC somewhere else that is running KVS from your iPad (not sure if that is possible since I don't have an iPad)? You'd need to leave that PC running and connected somewhere, but it seems like it would work.

Jul 20, 2011 | 10:11 am

#4252

BradnerBoy

Join Date: Oct 2006

Location: YLW

Posts: 285

Different availability for same flights depending on query

When I query KVS for two, one way segments - ATH FRA, then FRA YVR, it shows seats available. But when I query ATH YVR, there is no availability for the same flights.

Why is that?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.3.0/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

ATH  Athens Eleftherios Venizelos GR [LGAV]
YVR  Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
WED  05 Oct 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         1285    ATH   05:55     FRA   08:00     321  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH     492     FRA   13:30     YVR   14:35     346  0   FS-  CS-  YS-

OR

[KVS Availability Tool 6.3.0/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

ATH  Athens Eleftherios Venizelos GR [LGAV]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
WED  05 Oct 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         1285    ATH   05:55     FRA   08:00     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
A3         832     ATH   11:25     FRA   13:25     320  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
LH         1279    ATH   13:35     FRA   15:30     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
LH         1283    ATH   18:45     FRA   20:40     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

[KVS Availability Tool 6.3.0/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
YVR  Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
WED  05 Oct 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         492     FRA   13:30     YVR   14:35     346  0   FS-  CS-  YS+

Jul 20, 2011 | 10:58 pm

#4253

KVS

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by britinva79

Glad you're enjoying your KVS Tool membership! It is certainly something that may become possible in the future, however, for the time being, the main KVS Tool application does require a 'real' machine to run on, while the KVS Tool Mobile Companion is optimized for mobile & tablet devices (incl. iPhone/iPad).

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonvr

It is certainly a viable set-up. Here is an example of an App for iPad that can be used for this:

http://ITunes.Apple.com/us/app/itap-...or/id345580433

Jul 20, 2011 | 10:59 pm

#4254

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BradnerBoy

When I query KVS for two, one way segments - ATH FRA, then FRA YVR, it shows seats available. But when I query ATH YVR, there is no availability for the same flights.

Why is that?

It appears that LH is applying Segment Marriage Logic to Award Availability (most likely in-error): http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

Last edited by KVS; Jul 21, 2011 at 9:34 am

Jul 21, 2011 | 2:54 am

#4255

balima

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Chicago

Programs: UA, AA, US, DL, PC Plat, Dollar, Avis, National, SPG, HH Gold, CC Gold

Posts: 1,212

I'm trying to book 4 seats to Europe using oneworld awards. According to KVS there are Z9 seats for ORD-LHR on June 3rd. When I call American to try to book the award, they tell me there is no availablity. KVS shows two flights 4674 & 4676, both having Z9. AA tells me neither flight is available.

Why the disparity?

At the same time AA tells me that flights 296 & 294 have first class award seats available, but I can't use them because they are code share. I understand that, but when I look up those flights, Z fare class doesn't even show up.

I'm so confused.

Jul 21, 2011 | 9:41 am

#4256

KVS

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by balima

I'm trying to book 4 seats to Europe using oneworld awards. According to KVS there are Z9 seats for ORD-LHR on June 3rd.

Which Method(s) are you using to check?

Quote:

Originally Posted by balima

When I call American to try to book the award, they tell me there is no availablity. KVS shows two flights 4674 & 4676, both having Z9. AA tells me neither flight is available.

Why the disparity?

But AA 4674 is an American Eagle regional flight to Cleveland, and BA 4676 is an AA codeshare to Orlando :confused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by balima

At the same time AA tells me that flights 296 & 294 have first class award seats available, but I can't use them because they are code share. I understand that, but when I look up those flights, Z fare class doesn't even show up.

BA 294/296 are flights to London; they are not codeshares.

Quote:

Originally Posted by balima

I'm so confused.

So are we...

Jul 21, 2011 | 9:50 am

#4257

balima

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Chicago

Programs: UA, AA, US, DL, PC Plat, Dollar, Avis, National, SPG, HH Gold, CC Gold

Posts: 1,212

OK When I use the Availability tool I see IB4676 Z9

Plus How do I see if it is a codeshare flight. When I try to check the exclude codeshare box on filters it doesn't work. Please excuse my ignorance since this is the first time I'm using KVS and I am still in the process of learning.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.2.0/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/GTC/US-LTR]

Code:

ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
FRI  15 Jun 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
IB         4216    ORD&  21:40     LHR&  11:25 +1  777  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         4676    ORD&  20:05     LHR&  09:45 +1  777  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 Z9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         4188    ORD&  19:10     LHR&  09:00 +1  777  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         4208    ORD&  18:00     LHR&  07:50 +1  777  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         4674    ORD&  17:10     LHR&  06:55 +1  777  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 Z9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         4212    ORD&  08:55     LHR&  22:45     763  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         4194    ORD&  18:00     MAN&  07:45 +1  757  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> IB     7677    MAN&  10:00 +1  LHR&  11:05 +1  319  0   Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 O9 Q9 V9 N9
IB         4194    ORD&  18:00     MAN&  07:45 +1  757  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> IB     7683    MAN&  13:25 +1  LHR&  14:30 +1  319  0   Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 O9 Q9 V9 N9
IB         4194    ORD&  18:00     MAN&  07:45 +1  757  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> IB     7685    MAN&  15:30 +1  LHR&  16:30 +1  319  0   Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 O9 Q9 V9 N9
IB         4118    ORD&  17:55     CDG&  09:10 +1  763  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> IB     7674    ORY&  15:30 +1  LHR&  16:00 +1  319  0   Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 O9 Q9 V9 N9
IB         7038    ORD&  17:20     ATL&  20:10     CR7  0   Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 Q9 V9 N9 O9
 -> IB     4646    ATL&  21:15     LHR&  10:15 +1  777  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 Z9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         7076    ORD&  16:50     LAX&  19:20     738  0   J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 Q9 V9 N9 O9
 -> IB     4662    LAX&  21:20     LHR&  15:25 +1  744  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 Z9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         6274    ORD&  16:40     MAD&  07:40 +1  340  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 P9
 -> IB     3162    MAD&  08:55 +1  LHR&  10:15 +1  321  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 P9
IB         6274    ORD&  16:40     MAD&  07:40 +1  340  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 P9
 -> IB     3174    MAD&  09:50 +1  LHR&  11:10 +1  321  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 P9
IB         6274    ORD&  16:40     MAD&  07:40 +1  340  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 P9
 -> IB     7442    MAD&  12:35 +1  LHR&  13:55 +1  319  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 O9 Q9 V9 N9
IB         6274    ORD&  16:40     MAD&  07:40 +1  340  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 P9
 -> IB     3164    MAD&  13:10 +1  LHR&  14:35 +1  321  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 Z9 L9 A9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 P9
IB         7157    ORD&  16:35     SAN&  18:45     738  0   J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 Q9 V9 N9 O9
 -> IB     4658    SAN&  20:05     LHR&  14:25 +1  777  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 Z9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         7032    ORD&  16:30     DFW&  19:05     M80  0   J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 Q9 V9 N9 O9
 -> IB     4206    DFW&  21:05     LHR&  12:25 +1  763  0   J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         7155    ORD&  16:20     PHX&  18:10     M80  0   J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 Q9 V9 N9 O9
 -> IB     4672    PHX&  19:25     LHR&  13:05 +1  744  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 Z9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
IB         7105    ORD&  16:00     BOS&  19:20     738  0   J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 Q0 V9 N9 O9
 -> IB     4641    BOS&  22:00     LHR&  09:15 +1  744  0   F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 Z9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

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Jul 21, 2011 | 10:06 am

#4258

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by balima

OK When I use the Availability tool I see IB4676 Z9

For OneWorld Award Availability, you need to switch to the [Awards/Upgrades] Tab -- please see the table at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes for the correct Method(s) to use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by balima

Plus How do I see if it is a codeshare flight. When I try to check the exclude codeshare box on filters it doesn't work.

You need to switch to [Sabre: FS], as [Sabre: GTC] does not indicate codeshares. Alternatively, you can double-click a flight and request Amadeus Operational Info to verify.

Quote:

Originally Posted by balima

Please excuse my ignorance since this is the first time I'm using KVS and I am still in the process of learning.

Not a problem

Jul 22, 2011 | 3:09 pm

#4259

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Does the KVS Tracking have a time delay? Or is some information restricted from publication?

I was looking at BA875 21 July. Flight was due to depart DME, was moved to SVO

KVS shows

[KVS Availability Tool 6.3.0/Diamond - Amadeus Operational Info: BA 875/21 Jul 2011]

Code:

BRITISH AIRWAYS - BA 875

[Planned Flight Info]
DME-LHR         21:20/Thu - 22:20/Thu  04:00

[Flight Notes]
DME-LHR         MEMBER OF ONEWORLD
DME-LHR         ARRIVES TERMINAL 5
DME-LHR         9/ NON-SMOKING
DME-LHR         ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE

[Operational Flight Info]
DME      00:00  ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE
DME      00:00  NEXT INFO WILL BE AT
LHR      00:51  ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL
LHR      03:29  AIRCRAFT LANDED
LHR      03:38  ARRIVED

ba.com confirms the change of airport

I'm new to KVS, so not sure if there is something I need to do in settings (I have Diamond subscription)

Jul 22, 2011 | 3:19 pm

#4260

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heckenhocker

Does the KVS Tracking have a time delay? Or is some information restricted from publication?

I was looking at BA875 21 July. Flight was due to depart DME, was moved to SVO

KVS shows

I'm new to KVS, so not sure if there is something I need to do in settings (I have Diamond subscription)

The data is real-time. The system does handle diversions to alternate airports (after departure), but it gets confused by certain 'unconventional' scenarios, like the change of the departure airport without the change in flight number in your example.

However, BA had removed the Thursday flight from the schedule, so if you had checked yesterday, you could have probably seen the SVO-LHR flight (but it's too late now):

[KVS Availability Tool 6.3.0.R1/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

Code:

MOW  Moscow Metro RU = SVO DME VKO BKA
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP
WED  20 Jul 2011 - 27 Jul 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
BA         881     DME   05:50     LHR   06:55     EQV  0   1234567     04:05       -       5   20 Jul   27 Jul
BA         873     DME   17:15     LHR   18:20     767  0   1234567     04:05       -       5   19 Jul   27 Jul
BA         875     DME   21:20     LHR   22:20     EQV  0   123-567     04:00       -       5   20 Jul   27 Jul