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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:

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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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May 15, 2011 | 10:37 pm

#4096

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonvr

Note that there is no way to force or only display a specific connection point when the leg contains multiple segments.

In the KVS Tool Version 6.1.4 (released today), you can now force a specific connection point when using the [Awards/StarAlliance] Method. The chosen connection point will also be saved when you add an itinerary to [My Trips].

For example:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.4/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
BKK  Bangkok Intl TH [VTBS]
WED  01 Jun 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CO         47      FRA   13:50     LAX   20:45     CHG  1+  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> TG     795     LAX   23:20     BKK   06:40 +2  345  0   FS/  CS-  YS-

May 17, 2011 | 10:42 am

#4097

drdrma

Join Date: Aug 2010

Location: YUL

Programs: AC*E

Posts: 779

Hi, I'm getting "The reservation system is temporarily unavailable..." using the KVS mobile tool. This is been going on all morning. I would like to see the availability for AC982 May 21.

May 17, 2011 | 11:14 am

#4098

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdrma

Hi, I'm getting "The reservation system is temporarily unavailable..." using the KVS mobile tool. This is been going on all morning.

Please try again now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdrma

I would like to see the availability for AC982 May 21.

There you go:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.4/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/GTC/US-LTR]

Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MBJ  Montego Bay Sangster Intl JM [MKJS]
SAT  21 May 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------
AC         982     YYZ   10:00     MBJ   12:55     320  0   J0 C0 D0 Z0 Y7 B7 M7 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 L0 R0

May 17, 2011 | 11:17 am

#4099

drdrma

Join Date: Aug 2010

Location: YUL

Programs: AC*E

Posts: 779

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please try again now.
...

Yep. Working now. thanks.

May 19, 2011 | 9:26 am

#4100

jasonvr

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: So Cal

Programs: UA 1K/0.828MM, WN ALP, Hyatt Diamond, MR Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC,AA Gold

Posts: 5,666

Looks like Sabre/FS changed something and it is now messed up. Queries come back with airlines and flights, but Depart/Arrive times are 0:00 and the A/C column is totally messed up, sometimes with strings of HTM, sometimes n/a. Not sure how well this is going to paste in:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.4/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
MON  18 Jul 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------
UA         623           00:00           00:00     n/a
UA         889           00:00           00:00     <a       Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0
UA         885           00:00           00:00     <a       Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0 G0
UA         291           00:00           00:00     n/a
UA         954           00:00           00:00     <a       Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0
UA         900           00:00           00:00     <a       Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H6 Q1 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
UA         556           00:00           00:00     n/a
UA         999           00:00           00:00     n/a
UA         444           00:00           00:00     n/a
UA         466           00:00           00:00     n/a
UA         711           00:00           00:00     n/a
UA         793           00:00           00:00     n/a

May 19, 2011 | 10:56 am

#4101

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonvr

Please download V6.1.5

May 19, 2011 | 7:19 pm

#4102

jasonvr

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: So Cal

Programs: UA 1K/0.828MM, WN ALP, Hyatt Diamond, MR Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC,AA Gold

Posts: 5,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please download V6.1.5

Thanks for the quick response. Got one more - for the Star Alliance search the dropdown for individual airlines is missing Turkish (TK) and it says 26 airlines while there are actually 27.

May 20, 2011 | 10:26 am

#4103

wolam

Join Date: Feb 2011

Location: San Diego, CA

Posts: 38

Diamond or Platinum Level

I'd like to sign up for KVS but not sure if I need Platinum or Diamond level.
I need to search for award availability using AA miles for our upcoming trips to China and Vietnam in Jun 2012. Should I get Diamond or Platinum? I'm mainly interested in the following segments: LAX-PEK, PEK-SGN, SGN-LAX. Please advise.

May 20, 2011 | 12:27 pm

#4104

NWR

Join Date: Feb 2011

Location: SFO

Programs: UA 1K

Posts: 106

Not all UA award/upgrade flights showing

Just upgraded to 6.1.5 and for searches under ITA awards-upgrade/UA I noticed the results are not showing all of the flights that United.com is showing. The flight is simply not listed on KVS, whether or not an upgrade is available, while it is listed on United.com (and sometimes with upgrades available). Any advice?

Thank you.

May 20, 2011 | 2:37 pm

#4105

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NWR

Could you please provide a specific flight #/date example?

May 20, 2011 | 2:43 pm

#4106

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wolam

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

As your itinerary is likely to include segments on CX and/or JL, the Diamond level (which we see you have already selected) would be the recommended option.

May 20, 2011 | 2:51 pm

#4107

NWR

Join Date: Feb 2011

Location: SFO

Programs: UA 1K

Posts: 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Could you please provide a specific flight #/date example?

June 6 IAD-SFO - KVS does not show flt#864 to LAX connect to #829 to SFO

KVS settings:
cabin=economy
limit=all

United.com settings:
one way
eco
upgrade avail=miles-EMUHQ etc

May 20, 2011 | 3:24 pm

#4108

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NWR

June 6 IAD-SFO - KVS does not show flt#864 to LAX connect to #829 to SFO

KVS settings:
cabin=economy
limit=all

United.com settings:
one way
eco
upgrade avail=miles-EMUHQ etc

You just need to narrow-down the search by specifying the departure [Time] (e.g. 19:00):

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.5/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]

Code:

IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
MON  06 Jun 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA         915     IAD   16:37     SFO   19:37     320  0   F2 A2 C2 D2 Z2 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W0 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 J2 XC0 NC0
UA         975     IAD   17:15     SFO   19:58     777  0   F9 A9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 J9 XC0 NC0
UA         647     IAD   18:52     SFO   21:47     320  0   F8 A6 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W8 T2 S2 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0
UA         225     IAD   21:49     SFO   00:35 +1  752  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K3 L9 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF2
UA         903     IAD   16:13     DEN   18:11     320  0   F5 A4 C5 D5 Z5 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L9 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 J5 XC0 NC0
 -> UA     408     DEN   18:51     SFO   20:36     763  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L9 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0
UA         937     IAD   17:38     DEN   19:40     752  0   F9 A9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L9 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 J9 XC0 NC0
 -> UA     423     DEN   21:33     SFO   23:11     752  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K9 L9 G9 XY0 NY0 XF8 NF9
UA         275     IAD   18:39     DEN   20:46     320  0   F8 A7 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L9 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0
 -> UA     423     DEN   21:33     SFO   23:11     752  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K9 L9 G9 XY0 NY0 XF8 NF9
UA/YV      3754    IAD   16:50     DFW   19:11     CR7  0   F6 A6 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q7 V3 W0 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF2
 -> UA     799     DFW   20:02     SFO   21:52     319  0   F6 A5 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W0 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY9 NY9 XF0 NF0
UA         700     IAD   17:13     LAS   19:29     752  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W3 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF3 NF6
 -> UA     899     LAS   20:24     SFO   22:02     752  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF3 NF4
UA         951     IAD   17:28     LAX   20:00     777  0   F6 A2 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L7 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 J9 XC0 NC0
 -> UA     829     LAX   22:30     SFO   23:57     320  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K9 L9 G9 XY9 NY9 XF0 NF0
UA         864     IAD   19:09     LAX   21:50     320  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K4 L9 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF2
 -> UA     829     LAX   22:30     SFO   23:57     320  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K9 L9 G9 XY9 NY9 XF0 NF0
UA         325     IAD   17:27     ORD   18:37     763  0   F6 A5 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W0 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF2 NF3 J9 XC0 NC0
 -> UA     281     ORD   20:53     SFO   23:40     320  0   F7 A6 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W0 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0
UA         953     IAD   16:50     PHX   18:58     320  0   F8 A8 C8 D8 Z8 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L6 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 J8 XC0 NC0
 -> UA     516     PHX   19:38     SFO   21:40     320  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K9 L9 G9 XY9 NY9 XF2 NF4
UA         291     IAD   17:32     SMF   20:23     320  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 T0 S0 K0 L0 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0
 -> UA/OO  6602    SMF   20:54     SFO   21:47          0
UA/AX      3430    IAD   16:47     STL   18:03     ER4  0   Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K1 L9 G0 XY0 NY0
 -> UA     435     STL   19:22     SFO   21:46     320  0   F9 A9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 T9 S9 K0 L9 G0 XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0

May 20, 2011 | 4:15 pm

#4109

NWR

Join Date: Feb 2011

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Programs: UA 1K

Posts: 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

You just need to narrow-down the search by specifying the departure [Time] (e.g. 19:00)

Thanks that worked. I looked for this in the threads and also on the User Guide but couldn't find anything: I don't suppose there is a way to have all flights listed in one search? Or do you recommend a particular method for seeing/gathering all of the flights? Otherwise, it seems a little uncertain/trial and error.

BTW I love KVS...I couldn't fly without it! Thanks again.

May 20, 2011 | 5:35 pm

#4110

KVS

Original Poster

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWR

Thanks that worked. I looked for this in the threads and also on the User Guide but couldn't find anything: I don't suppose there is a way to have all flights listed in one search?

Using the example above, say there are 15 flights per day between origin (e.g. WAS) & each of the 5 possible connecting points (e.g. ORD/DFW/DEN/LAS/STL), as well as between each connecting point and the destination (e.g. SFO).

This means that there can be up to 1125 (15*15*5) possible flight combinations, and that's with just a single connection!

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWR

Or do you recommend a particular method for seeing/gathering all of the flights? Otherwise, it seems a little uncertain/trial and error.

You can be certain to see all non-stop/direct flights (and can build your own connections). Otherwise, you do need to narrow down the search to a reasonable level, since most engines will display the top 15~40 results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWR

BTW I love KVS...I couldn't fly without it! Thanks again.

You're welcome -- glad you're continuing to enjoy your KVS Tool membership!