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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?
The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).
Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.
Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:
http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:
https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:
https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:
https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:
https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:
https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:
https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:
https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:
https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:
https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:
https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:
https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:
https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:
https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:
https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:
http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:
http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).
Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.
Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;
http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:
Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.
This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:
Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.
This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.
http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:
http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.
http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.
https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.
3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.
3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.
https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:
https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:
https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);
https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:
https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:
https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:
https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,
https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.
https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:
https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities
You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.
You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.
You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.
You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.
When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.
You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.
Prohibited Activities
You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.
You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.
You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.
You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.
When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.
You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.
https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:
https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:
https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:
https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:
https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions
3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);
3. Licence restrictions
3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);
https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:
https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en
2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
Terms of Use:
https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.
https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:
https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:
https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:
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KVS Availability Tool
#4081
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 288
Ok, sorry for not being clear enough.
What I mean is, let's say I want to figure out how much it costs in cash and points to fly from HKG to JFK using BAEC miles, including fees.
If I put that into BA.com, it will only give me HKG-LHR-JFK for 60,000 BA miles and $500.
I know for a fact that I can fly other routes, like HKG-NRT-JFK on JAL or HKG-AMM-JFK on RJ for 25,000 BA miles and whatever the YQ might be. However, I can't find what that is on BA.com because it won't give me partner airlines unless BA doesn't fly that route.
What I already know is that KVS Tool will give me award availability for RJ and JL, but my question is will it also tell me how many miles and YQ it'd cost. I'm guessing at this point that BA doesn't make this information available publicly.
What I mean is, let's say I want to figure out how much it costs in cash and points to fly from HKG to JFK using BAEC miles, including fees.
If I put that into BA.com, it will only give me HKG-LHR-JFK for 60,000 BA miles and $500.
I know for a fact that I can fly other routes, like HKG-NRT-JFK on JAL or HKG-AMM-JFK on RJ for 25,000 BA miles and whatever the YQ might be. However, I can't find what that is on BA.com because it won't give me partner airlines unless BA doesn't fly that route.
What I already know is that KVS Tool will give me award availability for RJ and JL, but my question is will it also tell me how many miles and YQ it'd cost. I'm guessing at this point that BA doesn't make this information available publicly.
#4082
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,952
Ok, sorry for not being clear enough.
What I mean is, let's say I want to figure out how much it costs in cash and points to fly from HKG to JFK using BAEC miles, including fees.
If I put that into BA.com, it will only give me HKG-LHR-JFK for 60,000 BA miles and $500.
I know for a fact that I can fly other routes, like HKG-NRT-JFK on JAL or HKG-AMM-JFK on RJ for 25,000 BA miles and whatever the YQ might be.
What I already know is that KVS Tool will give me award availability for RJ and JL, but my question is will it also tell me how many miles and YQ it'd cost. I'm guessing at this point that BA doesn't make this information available publicly.
What I mean is, let's say I want to figure out how much it costs in cash and points to fly from HKG to JFK using BAEC miles, including fees.
If I put that into BA.com, it will only give me HKG-LHR-JFK for 60,000 BA miles and $500.
I know for a fact that I can fly other routes, like HKG-NRT-JFK on JAL or HKG-AMM-JFK on RJ for 25,000 BA miles and whatever the YQ might be.
What I already know is that KVS Tool will give me award availability for RJ and JL, but my question is will it also tell me how many miles and YQ it'd cost. I'm guessing at this point that BA doesn't make this information available publicly.
- Award Availability, which is relevant to the KVS Tool.
- Mileage Cost Information, which is static and readily available on the BAEC website at
- BritishAirways.com/travel/ecspendlanding/public/en_gb
- -> Select One partner airline only (not British Airways)
- -> Select Far East To North America = 50 000 miles R/T.
- Taxes/Surcharges, which can be calculated/estimated via ITA.
#4083


Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Programs: *A "Top 1000 2015", FB L/T Plat; BA Silver; Hilton Diamond;Marriott Gold; Turkish M&S Elite
Posts: 554
Re-running queries -- how easy for multiple trips?
I've tried searching for this info, but can't find the answer either on the KVS web site or here -- apols if I've missed it.
I'm looking for *A reward availability from Europe to North America (west coast) on a small number of dates this summer. Currently unavailable, but of course that may change...
There are of course many ways of getting to the west coast. Can I set up the various segments of possible interest and save into My Trips, and then run all the searches with a small number of clicks/key strokes each day; or will I have to run each segment/search separately? The latter will be tedious (though better than ANA direct of course), and might make it worth paying the extra money for award nexus.
thanks.
I'm looking for *A reward availability from Europe to North America (west coast) on a small number of dates this summer. Currently unavailable, but of course that may change...
There are of course many ways of getting to the west coast. Can I set up the various segments of possible interest and save into My Trips, and then run all the searches with a small number of clicks/key strokes each day; or will I have to run each segment/search separately? The latter will be tedious (though better than ANA direct of course), and might make it worth paying the extra money for award nexus.
thanks.
Last edited by Leedsflyer; May 14, 2011 at 10:33 am Reason: added missing hyphen
#4084




Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: So Cal
Programs: UA 1K/0.828MM, WN ALP, Hyatt Diamond, MR Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC,AA Gold
Posts: 5,666
I've tried searching for this info, but can't find the answer either on the KVS web site or here -- apols if I've missed it.
I'm looking for *A reward availability from Europe to North America (west coast) on a small number of dates this summer. Currently unavailable, but of course that may change...
There are of course many ways of getting to the west coast. Can I set up the various segments of possible interest and save into My Trips, and then run all the searches with a small number of clicks/key strokes each day; or will I have to run each segment/search separately? The latter will be tedious (though better than ANA direct of course), and might make it worth paying the extra money for award nexus.
thanks.
I'm looking for *A reward availability from Europe to North America (west coast) on a small number of dates this summer. Currently unavailable, but of course that may change...
There are of course many ways of getting to the west coast. Can I set up the various segments of possible interest and save into My Trips, and then run all the searches with a small number of clicks/key strokes each day; or will I have to run each segment/search separately? The latter will be tedious (though better than ANA direct of course), and might make it worth paying the extra money for award nexus.
thanks.
#4085


Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Programs: *A "Top 1000 2015", FB L/T Plat; BA Silver; Hilton Diamond;Marriott Gold; Turkish M&S Elite
Posts: 554
#4086




Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: So Cal
Programs: UA 1K/0.828MM, WN ALP, Hyatt Diamond, MR Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC,AA Gold
Posts: 5,666
Each search is a "leg", but the leg could involve multiple segments, I believe, as long as the award engine supports it. I just used UA and I tests HKG-LAX and I can see the connections. I believe the *A search (which uses ANA) will do the same but it is down for maintenance right now so I can't test.
Note that there is no way to force or only display a specific connection point when the leg contains multiple segments.
Note that there is no way to force or only display a specific connection point when the leg contains multiple segments.
#4087



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
DONE4 Fare ex-KRT
There appears to be a discrepancy between the fare showing in KVS and the fare shown on the Oneworld booking engine
KVS
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/AU]
Oneworld
Any ideas why?
KVS
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/AU]
Code:
KRT Khartoum Civil SD [HSSS]
KRT Khartoum Civil SD [HSSS]
SUN 15 Jan 2012 | SUN 01 Apr 2012 | RTW | Business
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------
RJ KRT KRT 4684 USD DONE4
Price
Travellers Fare Taxes
1 Adult(s) x (5,496.00 + 523.87) = 6,019.87 USD
total price for all travellers 6,019.87 USD
Travellers Fare Taxes
1 Adult(s) x (5,496.00 + 523.87) = 6,019.87 USD
total price for all travellers 6,019.87 USD
#4088
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
Programs: Amex Gold/Plat, UA *G, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat Marriott LT Gold, NEXUS, TSA Disparager Unobtanium
Posts: 22,644
Having a bit of a senior moment.. In trying to search for upgrade availability on UA flights, where can I go to see NF/NC? Can I see specific numbers, or will I just get FS+ CS+ YS+?
#4089




Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: So Cal
Programs: UA 1K/0.828MM, WN ALP, Hyatt Diamond, MR Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC,AA Gold
Posts: 5,666
Edit: To be more clear (i.e. less brief
), Use the Awards/Upgrades tab and set the method as ITA: Awards-Upgrades/X1 which will bring up the UA class availability including NC/NF/NY/XC/XFEdit 2: My 1000th post!!
#4090




Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ZRH
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hyatt Global, Miles and More SEN,
Posts: 338
Datasource Error:
"(Incorrect input Parameters/Cookies Disabled/Engine Error)"
Hi FT and KVS,
When I check flight "Fares" from MXP-HKG on July 1st I get this error. I have not disabled cookies to my knoweldge.
Any advice?
Thanks,
Bege
Edit: Also I notice ths POS is greyed out on "RU"
Hi FT and KVS,
When I check flight "Fares" from MXP-HKG on July 1st I get this error. I have not disabled cookies to my knoweldge.
Any advice?
Thanks,
Bege
Edit: Also I notice ths POS is greyed out on "RU"
Last edited by begemot; May 15, 2011 at 10:29 am Reason: addition
#4091




Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: So Cal
Programs: UA 1K/0.828MM, WN ALP, Hyatt Diamond, MR Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC,AA Gold
Posts: 5,666
Same error here. Switching the method off of Galileo works though.
#4092
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,952
#4093


Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Programs: *A "Top 1000 2015", FB L/T Plat; BA Silver; Hilton Diamond;Marriott Gold; Turkish M&S Elite
Posts: 554
Each search is a "leg", but the leg could involve multiple segments, I believe, as long as the award engine supports it. I just used UA and I tests HKG-LAX and I can see the connections. I believe the *A search (which uses ANA) will do the same but it is down for maintenance right now so I can't test.
Note that there is no way to force or only display a specific connection point when the leg contains multiple segments.
Note that there is no way to force or only display a specific connection point when the leg contains multiple segments.
Since ANA doesn't find all appropriate routings, I'll need to search segment by segment, so I've just gone with a set of imacros for firefox to directly interface to the ANA tool, and I can then search 12 legs in a single ANA search. A bit clunky but probably still faster than individually clicking on all the saved searches in KVS. I'll see how I get on with that approach. (Award Nexus would be ideal, but rather expensive for the number of searches I estimate I'll need to do.)
#4094
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,952
There appears to be a discrepancy between the fare showing in KVS and the fare shown on the Oneworld booking engine
KVS
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/AU]
Oneworld
Any ideas why?
KVS
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/AU]
Code:
KRT Khartoum Civil SD [HSSS]
KRT Khartoum Civil SD [HSSS]
SUN 15 Jan 2012 | SUN 01 Apr 2012 | RTW | Business
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------
RJ KRT KRT 4684 USD DONE4
Any ideas why?

It's a SDG currency issue. The IATA ROE is currently set to 3.10, while the BSP/interbank rate is around 2.67. The Base Fare is 14 700 SDG:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Routing Rules: KRT-KRT/RJ/DONE4/14700 SDG]
Code:
KRTKRT-RJ 15MAY11 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0346 RULE 3015 * ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES * -FARE BASIS SDG NUC PTC FT GI DONE4 R 14700.00 4741.92 ADT EX RW DONE4/CH25 R 11025.00 3556.44 CNN EX RW DONE4/IN90 R 1470.00 474.18 INF EX RW BOOKING CODES D INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BRW - BUSINESS CLS AROUND THE WORLD MPM - RW NO ROUTING FOUND ---------------------------------------------------------------
#4095



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
It's a SDG currency issue. The IATA ROE is currently set to 3.10, while the BSP/interbank rate is around 2.67. The Base Fare is 14 700 SDG:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Routing Rules: KRT-KRT/RJ/DONE4/14700 SDG]
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Routing Rules: KRT-KRT/RJ/DONE4/14700 SDG]
Code:
KRTKRT-RJ 15MAY11 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0346 RULE 3015 * ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES * -FARE BASIS SDG NUC PTC FT GI DONE4 R 14700.00 4741.92 ADT EX RW DONE4/CH25 R 11025.00 3556.44 CNN EX RW DONE4/IN90 R 1470.00 474.18 INF EX RW BOOKING CODES D INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BRW - BUSINESS CLS AROUND THE WORLD MPM - RW NO ROUTING FOUND ---------------------------------------------------------------



