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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

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Dec 7, 2012 | 11:27 am

#5581

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lingua101

It shows a lot of availability on CX367 on V class (V9). When I called CX office, they told me there is no V class availability on that flight and it has to wait list.....

So my question, how can I get very different result?

Do you have any connecting flights in your itinerary?

Dec 7, 2012 | 12:32 pm

#5582

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NWR

Currently I'm trying to see routing for

UA
SFO-SIN r/t
12/11-12/13
KKX0ZMM3

Can you happen to see the routing? Thank you.

You should now be able to access the Routing Rules for this Fare:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1 - Routing Rules: SFO-SIN/UA/KKX0ZMM3/740 USD]

Code:

SFOSIN-UA  5DEC12      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0003 RULE PW2S 
                          
001-FARE BASIS         USD       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
KKX0ZMM3        R    740.00    740.00               ADT  EX  PA 
KKX0ZMM3/CH00   R    740.00    740.00               CNN  EX  PA 
KKX0ZMM3/IN90   R     74.00     74.00               INF  EX  PA 
KKX0ZMM3/CH00   R    740.00    740.00               INS  EX  PA 
KKX0ZMM3        R    740.00    740.00               UNN  EX  PA 

BOOKING CODES        K                                          

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XPN - INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE       
MPM - PA 10130 VIA PACIFIC

---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  502    FROM  SFO-UA/CO/NH-SNA-UA/CO/NH-HNL-            
             OR FROM  SFO-UA/CO/NH-LAX/SEA-UA/CO/NH-            
                      HNL-                                      
             OR FROM  SFO-UA/CO/NH-HNL-                         
                 VIA  UA/CO/HA/WP/NH-ITO/JHM/KOA/               
                      LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-UA/CO/HA/WP/NH-HNL-       
                  TO  UA/CO/NH-OSA/TYO-UA/CO/NH-TYO-            
                      UA/CO/NH-HKG-UA/CO/NH-SIN*                
             OR   TO  UA/CO/NH-OSA/TYO-UA/CO/NH-TYO-            
                      UA/CO/NH-SIN*                             
             OR   TO  UA/CO-GUM-UA/CO-HKG-UA/CO-SIN*

Dec 7, 2012 | 7:20 pm

#5583

lingua101

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Do you have any connecting flights in your itinerary?

I do. Even I did PVG-BKK the result is the same. It still show high availability on CX357 connecting to either CX701/703 on V class. I think even now CX website cannot quote me on V class on CX357/701 or 703. only L class avail for CX357/703 and M class on CX357/701

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.0/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

PVG Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
BKK Bangkok Metro / Suvarnabhumi Intl TH = BKK DMK [VTBS]
SAT 05 Jan 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- --------------------------------------------------
CX/KA 6845 PVG 08:40 HKG 11:25 333 F2 A2 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O4
-> CX 751 HKG 14:25 BKK 16:20 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0
CX 365 PVG 09:45 HKG 12:30 773 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
-> CX 751 HKG 14:25 BKK 16:20 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0
CX 365 PVG 09:45 HKG 12:30 773 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
-> CX 701 HKG 16:05 BKK 17:55 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX/KA 6833 PVG 11:20 HKG 14:05 333 F2 A2 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O0
-> CX 701 HKG 16:05 BKK 17:55 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX/KA 6833 PVG 11:20 HKG 14:05 333 F2 A2 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O0
-> CX 703 HKG 16:45 BKK 18:45 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O2
CX 367 PVG 12:20 HKG 15:05 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 N0 Q0 O0
-> CX 701 HKG 16:05 BKK 17:55 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 367 PVG 12:20 HKG 15:05 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 N0 Q0 O0
-> CX 703 HKG 16:45 BKK 18:45 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O2
CX/KA 6853 PVG 12:50 HKG 15:35 320 J4 C4 D4 I0 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O0
-> CX 703 HKG 16:45 BKK 18:45 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O2
CX/KA 6835 PVG 14:20 HKG 17:05 333 F2 A2 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O4
-> CX 709 HKG 21:35 BKK 23:30 333 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX/KA 6865 PVG 15:20 HKG 18:05 321 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O4
-> CX 709 HKG 21:35 BKK 23:30 333 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX/KA 6859 PVG 16:20 HKG 19:05 333 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O4
-> CX 709 HKG 21:35 BKK 23:30 333 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 369 PVG 17:25 HKG 20:15 333 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
-> CX 709 HKG 21:35 BKK 23:30 333 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Dec 8, 2012 | 2:52 pm

#5584

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lingua101

It's a combination of POS & Segment Marriage factors:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

To take advantage of the better US POS Availability that you see via the [Sabre: FS] Method, you would need to book using a US POS (e.g. by calling CX Reservations in the US).

Otherwise, for Asia-based POSs, there is currently no V Availability on those flights (which you can confirm via [Galileo: ETR]):

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]

Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
BKK  Bangkok Metro / Suvarnabhumi Intl TH = BKK DMK [VTBS]
SAT  05 Jan 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX         6853    PVG   12:50     HKG   15:35     320  0   V9 L9 M9
 -> CX     703     HKG   16:45     BKK   18:45     333  0   V9 L9 M9
CX         369     PVG   17:25     HKG   20:15     333  0   V5 L9 M9
 -> CX     709     HKG   21:35     BKK   23:30     333  0   V5 L9 M9
CX         365     PVG   09:45     HKG   12:30     773  0   V9 L9
 -> CX     751     HKG   14:25     BKK   16:20     333  0   V9 L9
CX         6833    PVG   11:20     HKG   14:05     333  0   L9
 -> CX     701     HKG   16:05     BKK   17:55     333  0   L9
CX         367     PVG   12:20     HKG   15:05     333  0   M2
 -> CX     701     HKG   16:05     BKK   17:55     333  0   M2
CX         367     PVG   12:20     HKG   15:05     333  0   M9
 -> CX     703     HKG   16:45     BKK   18:45     333  0   M9

Dec 9, 2012 | 10:30 am

#5585

mxr

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could someone please help me find award availability for tomorrow (monday, 9 december) on LX from HKG-ZRH in C

On my mac the ANA tool via KVS doesnt seem to work... it always gives me an error message saying that the tool isnt supported on my device

Dec 9, 2012 | 10:52 am

#5586

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Tomorrow (Monday) is the 10th, not the 9th. LX 139 has no award availability in any class.

Dec 9, 2012 | 10:54 am

#5587

davakkar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMCHI

Tomorrow (Monday) is the 10th, not the 9th. LX 139 has no award availability in any class.

EF does show 04 I2 for Miles & More members, but none for Star Alliance partners.

Dec 9, 2012 | 1:13 pm

#5588

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davakkar

04 I2 for Miles & More members, but none for Star Alliance partners.

The OP cannot take advantage of the expanded Award Availability for M&M members, as it is less than 2 days before that flight's departure.

Dec 9, 2012 | 1:14 pm

#5589

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mxr

On my mac the ANA tool via KVS doesnt seem to work... it always gives me an error message saying that the tool isnt supported on my device

If you are using CrossOver Mac, you need to use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method instead of [Awards/StarAlliance]:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxr

could someone please help me find award availability for tomorrow (monday, 9 december) on LX from HKG-ZRH in C

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMCHI

Tomorrow (Monday) is the 10th, not the 9th. LX 139 has no award availability in any class.

Indeed, there is currently no C *A Award Availability on that flight:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
MON  10 Dec 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LX         139     HKG   23:59     ZRH   06:10 +1  343  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
 -> LH     1182    FRA   06:40 +1  ZRH   07:35 +1  319  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
 -> LH     1184    FRA   08:10 +1  ZRH   09:05 +1  E90  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
TK         71      HKG   23:15     IST   05:25 +1  77W  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> TK     1907    IST   08:20 +1  ZRH   10:20 +1  321  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   FS+  CS+  YS+
 -> LH     2366    MUC   07:30 +1  ZRH   08:30 +1  319  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]

Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
MON  10 Dec 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LX         139     HKG   23:59     ZRH   06:10 +1  343  0   YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     1182    FRA   06:40 +1  ZRH   07:35 +1  319  0   YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  1186    FRA   09:50 +1  ZRH   10:45 +1  CR7  0   YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     1190    FRA   13:00 +1  ZRH   13:55 +1  320  0   YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     1196    FRA   16:30 +1  ZRH   17:25 +1  733  0   YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     1198    FRA   18:20 +1  ZRH   19:15 +1  733  0   YS+
TK         71      HKG   23:15     IST   05:25 +1  77W  0   YS+
 -> TK     1907    IST   08:20 +1  ZRH   10:20 +1  320  0   YS+
TK         71      HKG   23:15     IST   05:25 +1  77W  0   YS+
 -> LX     1801    IST   14:05 +1  ZRH   16:20 +1  320  0   YS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   FS+  CS+  YS+
 -> LH     2366    MUC   07:30 +1  ZRH   08:30 +1  319  0   CS+  YS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   FS+  CS+  YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2368    MUC   11:30 +1  ZRH   12:30 +1  E95  0   CS+  YS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   FS+  CS+  YS+
 -> LH     2370    MUC   15:30 +1  ZRH   16:30 +1  319  0   CS+  YS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH     2372    MUC   19:10 +1  ZRH   20:10 +1  319  0   CS+  YS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   CS+
 -> LX/#S  1101    MUC   09:40 +1  ZRH   10:40 +1  AR1  0   CS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   CS+
 -> LX/#S  1105    MUC   14:05 +1  ZRH   15:00 +1  AR1  0   CS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     70      FRA   06:30 +1  MUC   07:35 +1  321  0   YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2368    MUC   11:30 +1  ZRH   12:30 +1  E95  0   YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     98      FRA   07:00 +1  MUC   08:05 +1  320  0   YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2368    MUC   11:30 +1  ZRH   12:30 +1  E95  0   YS+
LH         797     HKG   23:25     FRA   05:15 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     100     FRA   08:00 +1  MUC   09:05 +1  321  0   YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2368    MUC   11:30 +1  ZRH   12:30 +1  E95  0   YS+
LH         731     HKG   23:45     MUC   05:30 +1  346  0   YS+
 -> LH     99      MUC   07:00 +1  FRA   08:10 +1  321  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  1186    FRA   09:50 +1  ZRH   10:45 +1  CR7  0   YS+

Dec 10, 2012 | 6:15 pm

#5590

dingo

Join Date: Sep 1999

Location: Charlotte, NC USA

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Posts: 5,443

Prague

I am trying to use the tool to find awards fro CLT to PRG. I never ge any results; I get a message saying "No Results / Route Too Complex." I believe I can fly a combination of US and LH...why can't I get any results in KVS?

Dec 12, 2012 | 1:51 am

#5591

kats

Join Date: Nov 2008

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When I try to use Awards/OneWorld, I get this error message. Any solution?

Error 12157: The Application Experienced An Internal Error Loading The SSL libraries.
Disconnected.

Error 9002: No Data received
Disconnected.

Dec 12, 2012 | 3:15 pm

#5592

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dingo

If 2+ connections are required, you would need to either use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method or search segment-by-segment using [Awards/StarAllince].

However, using a random date, both Methods work:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

CLT  Charlotte Douglas NC US [KCLT]
PRG  Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR]
MON  01 Apr 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
US         704     CLT   16:40     FRA   07:20 +1  333  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> LH     1394    FRA   10:20 +1  PRG   11:25 +1  733  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
US         706     CLT   19:50     FRA   10:30 +1  333  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> LH     1396    FRA   12:00 +1  PRG   13:05 +1  320  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
LH         429     CLT   17:10     MUC   07:50 +1  346  0   FS-  CS+  YS+
 -> LH     1690    MUC   11:20 +1  PRG   12:20 +1  DH4  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]

Code:

CLT  Charlotte Douglas NC US [KCLT]
PRG  Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR]
MON  01 Apr 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
US         704     CLT   16:40     FRA   07:20 +1  333  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH     1394    FRA   10:20 +1  PRG   11:25 +1  733  0   CS+  YS+
US         704     CLT   16:40     FRA   07:20 +1  333  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH     1396    FRA   12:00 +1  PRG   13:05 +1  320  0   CS+  YS+
US         704     CLT   16:40     FRA   07:20 +1  333  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH     1398    FRA   15:55 +1  PRG   17:00 +1  320  0   CS+  YS+
US         704     CLT   16:40     FRA   07:20 +1  333  0   YS+
 -> LH     1400    FRA   17:20 +1  PRG   18:25 +1  319  0   YS+
US         706     CLT   19:50     FRA   10:30 +1  333  0   CS+
 -> LH     1396    FRA   12:00 +1  PRG   13:05 +1  320  0   CS+
US         706     CLT   19:50     FRA   10:30 +1  333  0   CS+
 -> LH     1398    FRA   15:55 +1  PRG   17:00 +1  320  0   CS+
US         706     CLT   19:50     FRA   10:30 +1  333  0   CS+
 -> LH     1400    FRA   17:20 +1  PRG   18:25 +1  319  0   CS+
LH         429     CLT   17:10     MUC   07:50 +1  346  0   YS+
 -> LH/IQ  1690    MUC   11:20 +1  PRG   12:20 +1  DH4  0   YS+
US         786     CLT   16:50     CDG   06:55 +1  332  0   YS+
 -> LH/EW  3221    CDG   12:55 +1  DUS   14:00 +1  CR9  0   YS+
 -> LH/EW  3052    DUS   14:50 +1  PRG   16:00 +1  CR9  0   YS+
US         786     CLT   16:50     CDG   06:55 +1  332  0   YS+
 -> LH     1027    CDG   09:25 +1  FRA   10:50 +1  320  0   YS+
 -> LH     1396    FRA   12:00 +1  PRG   13:05 +1  320  0   YS+
US         786     CLT   16:50     CDG   06:55 +1  332  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2227    CDG   08:50 +1  MUC   10:20 +1  E95  0   YS+
 -> LH/IQ  1690    MUC   11:20 +1  PRG   12:20 +1  DH4  0   YS+
US         786     CLT   16:50     CDG   06:55 +1  332  0   YS+
 -> LH     2229    CDG   11:05 +1  MUC   12:30 +1  319  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  1692    MUC   15:15 +1  PRG   16:10 +1  E95  0   YS+
US         786     CLT   16:50     CDG   06:55 +1  332  0   YS+
 -> LH     2231    CDG   13:00 +1  MUC   14:25 +1  320  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  1692    MUC   15:15 +1  PRG   16:10 +1  E95  0   YS+
US         786     CLT   16:50     CDG   06:55 +1  332  0   YS+
 -> OS/VO  412     CDG   10:00 +1  VIE   12:05 +1  321  0   YS+
 -> OS/VO  707     VIE   13:10 +1  PRG   14:05 +1  DH4  0   YS+
US         1468    CLT   14:40     DTW   16:31     319  0   FS+
 -> LH     443     DTW   19:15     FRA   09:20 +1  333  0   CS+
 -> LH     1394    FRA   10:20 +1  PRG   11:25 +1  733  0   CS+
US         1468    CLT   14:40     DTW   16:31     319  0   FS+
 -> LH     443     DTW   19:15     FRA   09:20 +1  333  0   CS+
 -> LH     1396    FRA   12:00 +1  PRG   13:05 +1  320  0   CS+
US         704     CLT   16:40     FRA   07:20 +1  333  0   YS+
 -> LH     102     FRA   09:00 +1  MUC   09:55 +1  321  0   YS+
 -> LH/IQ  1690    MUC   11:20 +1  PRG   12:20 +1  DH4  0   YS+
US         704     CLT   16:40     FRA   07:20 +1  333  0   YS+
 -> OS/VO  122     FRA   10:40 +1  VIE   12:05 +1  321  0   YS+
 -> OS/VO  707     VIE   13:10 +1  PRG   14:05 +1  DH4  0   YS+
UA/YV      3776    CLT   19:44     IAD   21:02     CR7  0   YS+
 -> UA     932     IAD   21:45     FRA   11:50 +1  777  0   YS+
 -> LH     1398    FRA   15:55 +1  PRG   17:00 +1  320  0   YS+
UA/YV      3776    CLT   19:44     IAD   21:02     CR7  0   YS+
 -> UA     932     IAD   21:45     FRA   11:50 +1  777  0   YS+
 -> LH     1400    FRA   17:20 +1  PRG   18:25 +1  319  0   YS+
US         732     CLT   18:25     LGW   07:20 +1  333  0   YS+
 -> LH     897     LGW   09:45 +1  FRA   12:25 +1  735  0   YS+
 -> LH     1398    FRA   15:55 +1  PRG   17:00 +1  320  0   YS+
UA         1177    CLT   16:48     ORD   17:55     738  0   CS+
 -> LX     9       ORD   19:15     ZRH   10:50 +1  333  0   YS+
 -> LX/#S  1486    ZRH   12:35 +1  PRG   13:55 +1  AR1  0   CS+

Dec 12, 2012 | 3:23 pm

#5593

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kats

When I try to use Awards/OneWorld, I get this error message. Any solution?

Error 12157: The Application Experienced An Internal Error Loading The SSL libraries.

Please see http://Errors.KVSTool.com/

Dec 13, 2012 | 12:21 pm

#5594

richlondon

Join Date: May 2009

Posts: 48

Amadeus:awards/oneworld asking for Qantas FF no

Hi I an a newbie to KVS, just upgraded to Platinum v 7.1.1

Trying to check First class award/upgrades for a BA flight ICN-LHR on 06/01/13, I have seen the message on the KVS web site saying:

[Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method Temporarily Unavailable 11 Dec 2012
An updated version will be released shortly. In the meantime, please use the [Awards/OneWorld] Method.

So I select method as Amadeus:awards/oneworld

I then get "requested method requires a Qantas FF number, which I don't have as I am BAEC based in London.

The POS offers me values AU-QFA-SP1/SP2/MLT/OWY - not sure what these mean but I am interpreting them as Australia and Qantas in some way, maybe?

Any ideas, all help appreciated.

Rich

Dec 13, 2012 | 1:25 pm

#5595

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richlondon

Please download V7.1.2, which has just been released: http://www.KVSTool.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlondon

So I select method as Amadeus:awards/oneworld

I then get "requested method requires a Qantas FF number, which I don't have as I am BAEC based in London.

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q7