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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en...ge_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRe..._lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
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https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
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https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Feb 15, 13, 6:43 am
  #5731  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: London, UK
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Beginner/Training course for KVS?

Hi,

I really find the KVS Tool really intriguing and I have tried to use it in the past (years ago) and remember having found it really intimidating at times and not having understood at least a quarter of the things it wanted from me or could have given me :-)

I'm now trying to get back in the game a bit, so to speak, I'm flying a lot again, and I wondered: Is there some kind of comprehensive online training course out there, you know, with instruction videos, how-to's, tasks to complete, maybe some one-on-one tutoring if required?

I'm thinking, just like you can do those IT trainings, like "Linux for Beginners" or "Poiwershell for Dummies", where you even learn a few tricks you didn't know about if you are a frequent user - just a generally comprehensive training with cases and scenarios that helps you get proficient fast would be really good.
Ideally, it would start at the lowest level for beginners but advance quickly and allow you to get proficient fast without having to find out everything for yourself (which is fun too, but takes ages)...

Does this exist? I for one would be really interested, I'm sure others would, too.

Thanks!
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Old Feb 15, 13, 3:30 pm
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I could not find anything related, so here is my question:

I just changed the Hard Disk in my computer (cloned the old drive). Now KVS wants a license key. It seems that the system code also has changed.
Why is that? Even Microsoft with their fairly paranoic licensing does not require a new code in such circumstances? Does this mean that at every little upgrade to a system you will need a new code?
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Old Feb 15, 13, 4:56 pm
  #5733  
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Originally Posted by Unterwegs View Post
I could not find anything related, so here is my question:

I just changed the Hard Disk in my computer (cloned the old drive). Now KVS wants a license key. It seems that the system code also has changed.
Why is that? Even Microsoft with their fairly paranoic licensing does not require a new code in such circumstances? Does this mean that at every little upgrade to a system you will need a new code?
This is so weird. I just did the same today and it changed my system code too.

Why is that when everything else has worked just fine?
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Old Feb 15, 13, 5:14 pm
  #5734  
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Originally Posted by Unterwegs View Post
I just changed the Hard Disk in my computer (cloned the old drive). Now KVS wants a license key. It seems that the system code also has changed.
Why is that? Even Microsoft with their fairly paranoic licensing does not require a new code in such circumstances? Does this mean that at every little upgrade to a system you will need a new code?
Originally Posted by onlysuites View Post
This is so weird. I just did the same today and it changed my system code too.
Certain major changes in the system may cause the System Code to also change, in which case a Replacement Registration Code should be requested via the Registration Wizard.
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Old Feb 15, 13, 5:18 pm
  #5735  
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
Certain major changes in the system may cause the System Code to also change, in which case a Replacement Registration Code should be requested via the Registration Wizard.
Thanks for the quick response to the new system code request. ^
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Old Feb 18, 13, 8:00 pm
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Is there a problem with CX and BA award searches now? Even with 7.1.6 it seems not really working. Is it being fixed? Thank you.
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Old Feb 18, 13, 9:28 pm
  #5737  
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Originally Posted by IncyWincy View Post
Is there a problem with CX and BA award searches now? Even with 7.1.6 it seems not really working. Is it being fixed? Thank you.
Both Methods continue to function normally:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.6/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP XQE
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
FRI  01 Mar 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX         252     LHR   11:25     HKG   07:00 +1           FS4  YS9
CX         256     LHR   20:40     HKG   16:30 +1           FS1  YS1
BA         25      LHR   18:40     HKG   14:20 +1           YS9
BA         27      LHR   21:00     HKG   16:40 +1           YS9
BA         332     LHR   06:50     ORY   09:05              CS9  YS9
 -> CX     260     CDG   12:25     HKG   06:50 +1           FS1  WS1
BA         304     LHR   07:20     CDG   09:40              CS9  YS2
 -> CX     260     CDG   12:25     HKG   06:50 +1           FS1  WS1
BA         17      LHR   13:00     ICN   08:55 +1           FS1
 -> CX     417     ICN   10:20 +1  HKG   13:15 +1           CS3
BA         572     LHR   07:50     MXP   10:45              CS9
 -> CX     234     MXP   12:20     HKG   06:45 +1           FS5
[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.6/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]
Code:
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP XQE
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
FRI  01 Mar 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
CX         252     LHR   11:25     HKG   07:00 +1  744  0   FS+  [email protected]  [email protected]  YS+
CX         250     LHR   18:05     HKG   13:45 +1  77W  0   [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected]
CX         256     LHR   20:40     HKG   16:30 +1  744  0   FS+  [email protected]  [email protected]  YS+
CX         254     LHR   22:05     HKG   17:45 +1  77W  0   [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected]
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Old Feb 19, 13, 1:03 am
  #5738  
 
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Oh?

How come on my 7.1.6 for 1-march hkg-lhr it says (when searching on cx awards)
Data Source Error L3...
MCL_2999_CLS_AUTH_ERROR...
and then says I should contact KVS!!!


When searching on BA oneworld awards
it mentions something to do with Malaga flights!!!

What do I do?

Last edited by IncyWincy; Feb 19, 13 at 1:37 am
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Old Feb 19, 13, 5:37 am
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Ok, here are screen shots when I try to search for awards

http://incy.shutterfly.com/pictures/10

http://incy.shutterfly.com/pictures/10#9
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Old Feb 19, 13, 1:13 pm
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Can somebody please help me I'm looking for some flights and I see a lot of stuff like this:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.6/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-STD]
Code:
DCA  Washington Ronald Reagan National DC US [KDCA]
BKK  Bangkok Metro / Suvarnabhumi Intl TH = BKK DMK [VTBS]
SUN  31 Mar 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
SK         926     IAD   17:15     CPH   07:15 +1  343  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> TG     951     CPH   14:25 +1  BKK   06:00 +2  773  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
First leg is not available, but the second leg is available. Does it mean that I have to search for alternative ways to get to CPH to be able to fly TG to BKK in C?

Thanks
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Old Feb 19, 13, 1:17 pm
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You are correct. Since there is no space on the SK n/s, you'd need to find another flight, such as LH through FRA/MUC, to make the flight from CPH.
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Old Feb 19, 13, 1:24 pm
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Question

Originally Posted by IncyWincy View Post
Oh?

How come on my 7.1.6 for 1-march hkg-lhr it says (when searching on cx awards)
Data Source Error L3...
MCL_2999_CLS_AUTH_ERROR...
and then says I should contact KVS!!!
The [Awards/CX] Engine is currently experiencing intermittent issues -- you may need to retry your query a few times.

Originally Posted by IncyWincy View Post
When searching on BA oneworld awards
it mentions something to do with Malaga flights!!!
What date are you searching for using the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Engine?
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Old Feb 19, 13, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by bwiadca View Post
Can somebody please help me I'm looking for some flights and I see a lot of stuff like this:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.6/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-STD]
Code:
DCA  Washington Ronald Reagan National DC US [KDCA]
BKK  Bangkok Metro / Suvarnabhumi Intl TH = BKK DMK [VTBS]
SUN  31 Mar 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
SK         926     IAD   17:15     CPH   07:15 +1  343  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> TG     951     CPH   14:25 +1  BKK   06:00 +2  773  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
First leg is not available, but the second leg is available. Does it mean that I have to search for alternative ways to get to CPH to be able to fly TG to BKK in C?

Thanks
Yes you would have to find an alternative way to get to BKK.

Here are some alternative routes:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:
IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
BKK  Bangkok Metro / Suvarnabhumi Intl TH = BKK DMK [VTBS]
SUN  31 Mar 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
UA         974     IAD   17:25     GVA   07:40 +1  763  0   CS+
 -> LX     2809    GVA   11:05 +1  ZRH   12:00 +1  321  0   CS+
 -> TG     971     ZRH   13:30 +1  BKK   05:30 +2  346  0   CS+
UA         974     IAD   17:25     GVA   07:40 +1  763  0   CS+
 -> LX     2807    GVA   10:05 +1  ZRH   11:00 +1  321  0   CS+
 -> TG     971     ZRH   13:30 +1  BKK   05:30 +2  346  0   CS+
UA         100     IAD   18:15     MAN   06:55 +1  752  0   CS+
 -> SK     540     MAN   10:15 +1  CPH   13:05 +1  M81  0   CS+
 -> TG     951     CPH   14:25 +1  BKK   06:00 +2  773  0   CS+
UA         2       IAD   17:05     MUC   07:50 +1  764  0   CS+
 -> LH     2442    MUC   10:50 +1  CPH   12:20 +1  319  0   CS+
 -> TG     951     CPH   14:25 +1  BKK   06:00 +2  773  0   CS+
UA         2       IAD   17:05     MUC   07:50 +1  764  0   CS+
 -> LH     1842    MUC   09:25 +1  FCO   11:00 +1  321  0   CS+
 -> TG     945     FCO   13:55 +1  BKK   05:35 +2  346  0   CS+
UA         2       IAD   17:05     MUC   07:50 +1  764  0   CS+
 -> LH/CL  2368    MUC   11:25 +1  ZRH   12:25 +1  CR9  0   CS+
 -> TG     971     ZRH   13:30 +1  BKK   05:30 +2  346  0   CS+
I would suggest a routing through a *A hub (MUC) so you can access a shower airside after the TATL flight.
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Old Feb 19, 13, 2:24 pm
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Thank you both for the suggestions. I've logged in with my AC number and now I see many more options. (new to KVS tool, used it briefly last year to check upgrade availability, never to look for reward flights).

Thank you again
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Old Feb 19, 13, 4:09 pm
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Hi KVS,

Having trouble looking up RTW fares. Have tried to use the Fares/DotRes, but then I cannot look up business or first fares. It also does not come up with the LONE either =\

I am simply searching, for example, HKG-LAX, return. I try to put in HKG-HKG but this gives error.

Used to be so much easier....

Thanks
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