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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Dec 2, 2007, 1:05 am
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
There may be a glitch with sabre/dotres (3.0.2 version).

Trying to get the economy vs business vs first class fares on Jet Airways (ie YYZ-DEL, or between DEL-SIN), the list of fares for business or first class are the same that are displayed for economy.

Trying this for TG, at least for DEL-SIN, the problem also arises.
I tried this for you as well - common problem with KVS and 9w fares...

Sabre/Zuji is giving biz fares: I/Z/C/J, but no F fares.

Sabre/Dotres is giving only Y fares - nothing else.

I would simply go to www.jetairways.com and see what they are charging there, for reference.

You might wish to check with consolidators, as I know that one (JFK-based) I talked to was going to discuss fare agreements with Jet late summer this year (2007).
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Old Dec 2, 2007, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
There may be a glitch with sabre/dotres (3.0.2 version).

Trying to get the economy vs business vs first class fares on Jet Airways (ie YYZ-DEL, or between DEL-SIN), the list of fares for business or first class are the same that are displayed for economy.

Trying this for TG, at least for DEL-SIN, the problem also arises.
These issues are, most likely, caused due to the way certain Asia-based carriers [mis-]load fares into the system, so there isn't anything I can do to change that...
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 2:21 pm
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Wish: Please make it work in Apple Powerbook (Mac)

Pretty please?
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by enmascarado
Wish: Please make it work in Apple Powerbook (Mac)

Pretty please?
Pls see KVS Tool FAQ under "Mac/Linux Compatibility" ...
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Pls see KVS Tool FAQ under "Mac/Linux Compatibility" ...
I hope that you (and other Windows developers) recognize that for Mac users this is a completely useless Windows-centric answer.

I have been a customer of the tool for some time, but only because I have a Windows laptop in my environment. For those who are solely Mac users, it is unreasonable to expect them to use an emulator to run your application.

My response is - why isn't it written to be platform-independent?

For a Mac person, I would say that EF is a better choice. For now, I use both.
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by RichMSN
My response is - why isn't it written to be platform-independent?
The use of a Mac is one's choice and I certainly respect that. I am willing to make reasonable accommodations in terms of compatibility (for example, an alternative keyboard shortcut was introduced to accommodate Mac users, who couldn't "right click").

Re-writing 15 000+ lines of code and taking a hit on decreased application performance from the use of "platform-independent" solutions? Sorry, but I would have to say no.

In any case, now that Apple had finally acknowledged the idiocy behind using a non-Intel processor architecture on consumer-grade machines, running a Win32 application on a modern Mac is easier than ever: http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Images/...elsDesktop.gif
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
The use of a Mac is one's choice and I certainly respect that. I am willing to make reasonable accommodations in terms of compatibility (for example, an alternative keyboard shortcut was introduced to accommodate Mac users, who couldn't "right click").

Re-writing 15 000+ lines of code and taking a hit on decreased application performance from the use of "platform-independent" solutions? Sorry, but I would have to say no.

In any case, now that Apple had finally acknowledged the idiocy behind using a non-Intel processor architecture on consumer-grade machines, running a Win32 application on a modern Mac is easier than ever: http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Images/...elsDesktop.gif
Please tell me how I can do so without purchasing a copy of Windows for a significant price?

Or, to rephrase, in an Internet world, why a client at all?

Edited to say: I'm not trying to turn this personal against your business. I believe I've purchased 2 full subscriptions at the PLT level now, matter of fact. I'm just saying that pointing Mac users to a virtualization option may not get quite the warm response you expect. Many users would say if they wanted to run Windows, they'd have bought a Windows machine.

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Old Dec 3, 2007, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Please tell me how I can do so without purchasing a copy of Windows for a significant price?
I think that this might be the wrong kind of forum for that .

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Or, to rephrase, in an Internet world, why a client at all?
Firstly, it's a performance issue -- no web-based solution will ever be as fast a well-written native [Win or Mac] application. Secondly, there are currently operational/technical constraints for making the Tool web-based.

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Edited to say: I'm not trying to turn this personal against your business. I believe I've purchased 2 full subscriptions at the PLT level now, matter of fact.
Indeed, and I certainly appreciate your continued support of the project.
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 6:03 pm
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Question

Greetings,

I was wondering if this could be something to work on in the future perhaps. KVS is giving me this as below:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
LAX  Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX]
MON  03 Mar 2008 - 10 Mar 2008

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
SQ        28     SIN  17:15     LAX  18:40     EQV  1    123456-     17:25       3       B   03 Mar   10 Mar   Mon 10 Mar
SQ        28     SIN  17:15     LAX  19:40     EQV  1    1-----7     17:25       3       B   03 Mar   10 Mar   Mon 03 Mar
As you can see it is EQV.

But if you access via another Amadeus system you get this:

TN01MARTPELAX/ASQ -TC-
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** LAX LOS ANGELES.USCA 01MAR08 08MAR08

1 SQ 028 257 TPE 2 LAX B 2255 1840 0 02MAR08 07MAR08 772 11:45
2 SQ 028 1346 TPE 2 LAX B 2255 1840 0 01MAR08 08MAR08 77W 11:45

Which clearly shows B77E operating on Tuesday, Friday Saturday with the B77W operating on all other dates making it a daily service.

Is it just a case of different POS access points?
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 11:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Singapore_Air
Greetings,

I was wondering if this could be something to work on in the future perhaps. KVS is giving me this as below:

As you can see it is EQV.

But if you access via another Amadeus system you get this:

Which clearly shows B77E operating on Tuesday, Friday Saturday with the B77W operating on all other dates making it a daily service.

Is it just a case of different POS access points?
The current timetable engine does not 'break-up' flights if the only difference is the equipment type. This is done by the engine itself, so I have no control over this...
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Old Dec 4, 2007, 3:47 am
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Ahh OK. Thanks KVS!
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Old Dec 5, 2007, 4:53 am
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FYI
The Alaska award tool sometimes seems to do a superior job finding Skyteam bookings in the domestic US, in particular where AS/Horizon or DL/Skywest flights are required (in other words a big swath of the west coast). The AS tool also shows AA awards, and so it's really a nice supplement to both the ST and OW functions you have built into KVS. I know most people dont have AS accounts, but given how well it does building unconventional routes in the domestic US when the NW itool shows the same old 12:55am redeye, it is worth checking out.
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 3:50 am
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Originally Posted by stephem
FYI
The Alaska award tool sometimes seems to do a superior job finding Skyteam bookings in the domestic US, in particular where AS/Horizon or DL/Skywest flights are required (in other words a big swath of the west coast). The AS tool also shows AA awards, and so it's really a nice supplement to both the ST and OW functions you have built into KVS. I know most people dont have AS accounts, but given how well it does building unconventional routes in the domestic US when the NW itool shows the same old 12:55am redeye, it is worth checking out.
Thanks for the info -- I will look into this...
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Old Dec 9, 2007, 1:52 am
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KVS
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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Exclamation Absence Alert

Just a reminder that an absence alert, which has been posted on the KVS Tool's homepage for the last two weeks, will come into effect shortly.

However, please feel free to submit registration/upgrade requests at any time, as I will be responding to all accumulated requests/e-mails upon my return.

For Platinum-tier members, holding a valid registration as of 01 December 2007, access to the KVS Tool Online Companion will continue to be available throughout this entire period (regardless of the actual expiration date).

Thanks for understanding and happy holidays!
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Old Dec 9, 2007, 6:48 am
  #1725  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Have a good trip! You may find my registration renewal when you return!
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