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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Mar 5, 2005, 12:40 pm
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Well KVS I officially give up. There is no way in h*ll that AUA will work on my system. Nothing fancy here, Windows XP, rogers extreme hi-speed etc.

Your mods did nothing other than now get the tool to display transferrring data across the top before sitting there for minutes. I give up.
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Old Mar 7, 2005, 2:56 pm
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Post ITN.net [Temporarily] Down: 07 Mar 2005

At the moment, ITN.net appears to be down for some reason.

This outage impacts not only the tool, but also most of the functionality of United's website as discussed in this UA thread
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Old Mar 8, 2005, 4:14 pm
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Exclamation Version 1.3.8 Released: Apollo+Sabre+Worldspan

Version 1.3.8 of the KVS Availability Tool is now available for download.

As it turns out, ITN can provide access to more than one GDS system. After doing some research, I have re-organized the access methods list and the tool is now able to provide access to 3 major GDS systems:

New Access Method Structure:
  1. Apollo: ITN/CWT
  2. Sabre: AUA/*A
  3. Worldspan: ITN/CWT
  4. Apollo: ITN/UA
  5. Galileo (restricted access)
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FAQ: Differences Between The Various Access Methods (Version 1.3.8+):
  • Apollo: ITN/CWT
    • [+]: Good for general use
    • [+]: Ability to limit results to certain airlines
    • [+]: Displays cancelled flights ("CANCELLED")
    • [+]: Displays same-day and already departed flights ("PAST SCHEDULE")
    • [+]: Complete seat maps for AC flights (not just the first few rows as was often the case with Worldspan)

  • Sabre: AUA/*A
    • [+]: Award availability for most *A airlines
    • [+]: Can limit results to *A flights only.
    • [-]: Does not always provide same-day availability data
    • [-]: Cannot limit results to a particular airline.

  • Worldspan: ITN/CWT
    • [+]: Ability to limit results to certain airlines
    • [-]: Seat map issues for certain carriers
    • [-]: Some users have reported that in certain cases, results returned may not be as accurate as those returned by other methods.

  • Apollo: ITN/UA:
    • [+]: Expanded class availability for UA
    • [+]: Provides availability info for same-day/already departed flights
    • [-]: Displays a rather strong 'preference' for UA's own flights

  • Galileo: (restricted access)
    • [+]: Access to airlines that publish their flights in Galileo, but not in Sabre
    • [+]: Often shows more connecting options that ITN/Sabre
    • [+]: Ability to limit results to any specific airline.
    • [-]: Slower, limited server capacity, requests are handled 1 class at a time.

Last edited by KVS; Mar 8, 2005 at 4:36 pm
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Old Mar 9, 2005, 12:42 pm
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The old tool was really good - looking forward to the new one ...
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Old Mar 10, 2005, 4:37 pm
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Not sure if this is just me, but getting the following error when I try and get a seatmap through ITN/CWT, after searching on Sabre AUA/*A. Works fine if seatmapping through ITN/UA, or after getting availability from ITN/CWT etc.

Only seems to be happening since my update to v1.3.8.


ERR NO: ENG-AM-131

Processing Error

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A system error has occurred while processing your request.
The system administrators have been alerted to the problem and
will have it resolved as quickly as possible.

Please try again later.

load_agency_site_id_info: Missing or invalid Site ID!
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Old Mar 10, 2005, 4:44 pm
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Thanks again. Mine is working perfectly.
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Old Mar 10, 2005, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by MEH
Not sure if this is just me, but getting the following error when I try and get a seatmap through ITN/CWT, after searching on Sabre AUA/*A. Works fine if seatmapping through ITN/UA, or after getting availability from ITN/CWT etc.

Only seems to be happening since my update to v1.3.8.
Looks like you've just found a small bug . It will be corrected in version 1.3.9. However, for now, here's a work-around:

After you see the AUA/*A results, select one of the ITN/CWT options (Apollo ITN/CWT or WorldSpan ITN/CWT) depending on which system you want the seatmaps to come from. Do not click the Go button. You should then be able to request seatmaps using the ITN/CWT option.
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Old Mar 11, 2005, 4:09 am
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Great... works fine. Thank you!
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Old Mar 11, 2005, 11:25 am
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Dear KVS

I am truly amazed by your developement skills and the usefulness of this tool!!! THANK YOU very much for making it available to the community. I can't believe I didn't discover it earlier ...

I did just send you a PM about the registration code - and I apologize for my brief tone, and hope it doesn't come across as demanding or unfriendly as some other PM's seem to be.

Would you be able to post a little bit more detail about the POS feature, and what difference it might make, in which situation?

Also, I am sure a short 1/2-page "Quick Reference User Guide" in the first post of this thread would be greatly appreciated ... However, with the drop-down I guess it really is very simple to use.

Regards

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Old Mar 11, 2005, 2:54 pm
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Arrow New Consolidated FAQ Is Now Available

Originally Posted by f4free
Would you be able to post a little bit more detail about the POS feature, and what difference it might make, in which situation?
As of version 1.3.8, POS selection shouldn't make any difference, unless one of the POS'es becomes no longer valid.

Originally Posted by f4free
Also, I am sure a short 1/2-page "Quick Reference User Guide" in the first post of this thread would be greatly appreciated ... However, with the drop-down I guess it really is very simple to use.
The new consolidated FAQ is now available at the top of the thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...20#post2804874
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Old Mar 12, 2005, 12:55 am
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This may be a really stupid question, but.......


....everytime I run the program (newest version), windows installer comes up and "installs" "it's deductible express". I get several prompts to insert the cd rom for "it's deductible express". After always clicking cancel and always getting an error message, the tool comes up and works just fine!!!!! It's just a pain in the butt.

Any thoughts?
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Old Mar 13, 2005, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Nobbi
....everytime I run the program (newest version), windows installer comes up and "installs" "it's deductible express". I get several prompts to insert the cd rom for "it's deductible express". After always clicking cancel and always getting an error message, the tool comes up and works just fine!!!!! It's just a pain in the butt.
This is likely caused by the absence of a fixed drive C: on your system and/or improper installation of the other program. If you are not using "it's deductible express", you may wish to completely uninstall it from your system to see if that fixes the problem.
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Old Mar 13, 2005, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
This is likely caused by the absence of a fixed drive C: on your system and/or improper installation of the other program. If you are not using "it's deductible express", you may wish to completely uninstall it from your system to see if that fixes the problem.
Thanks! Didn't even know I had it on the system. Pre-loaded I suppose. Got rid of it and now there's no problem.

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Old Mar 14, 2005, 3:04 pm
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Hello All!

First of all, thank you very much KVS!! In a word: excellent!!

Now to all you gurus out there: I'm looking at availability on a flight from FRA to TLS, which is operated by Lufthansa Cityline. Using Sabre AUA I was getting C9 D9 Z9 etc. which I know is wrong. I then tried Apollo (not sure whether it was CWT or UA) which was giving C4 D4 Z1 etc. which I know is correct. However, since three days (IIRC) this is also giving C9 D9 Z9 etc.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

Another GoldMember

PS Now I know that this is actually the Aeroplan forum so if I'm in the wrong place please tell me!
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Old Mar 15, 2005, 1:24 pm
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Is it possible to see availability for AA's award classes (T, U, Z)?
I do see A class (upgrade with miles), but the straight award classes
are missing. Thanks.
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