Jun 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Last edit by: TWA884
ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
Jul 6, 2017, 10:51 am
#1441
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Platinum Elite, National Executive, United Gold
Posts: 1,181
Thank you - I assume I can book this ticket in the US? Any way I can do it without a travel agent?
KLRCVAO is a public fare on public sale, it's been around for a couple of years.
Code:
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG 1 KLRCVAO K‡O 530.00 ---- -/‡ -/ - PA01 PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES FROM-SGN TO-EWR CXR-UA TVL-06JUL17 RULE-JN24 IPRP/3 FARE BASIS-KLRCVAO SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP FARE TYPE-SAP OW-ADVANCE PURCHASE USD 530.00 0502 E01APR12 D-INFINITY FC-KLRCVAO FN-8Q SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 13MAY15/1219 EXPIRES INFINITY
Jul 6, 2017, 11:17 am
#1442
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Jul 6, 2017, 11:28 am
#1443
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Platinum Elite, National Executive, United Gold
Posts: 1,181
Jul 6, 2017, 11:48 am
#1444
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
The good news is that by setting the UA.com location to Vietnam/English, and then using the multicity search to specify the exact legs [SGN-TYO/TYO-EWR], I am able to obtain the flights for a grand total of 695 USD. This is a bit more than I had expected and I cannot explain why the 530 fare is not selected.
The bad news is that I have a feeling the payment page will demand that my credit card billing country is in Vietnam.
Some credit card companies don't check if the billing country is correct ...
Jul 6, 2017, 11:53 am
#1445
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Platinum Elite, National Executive, United Gold
Posts: 1,181
Thank you again for the help - very much appreciated! ^
There's a married segment restriction which is zeroing the K bucket on UA 78 when the sale is made from within the US. This restriction does not appear to apply if the sale is made from within Vietnam.
The good news is that by setting the UA.com location to Vietnam/English, and then using the multicity search to specify the exact legs [SGN-TYO/TYO-EWR], I am able to obtain the flights for a grand total of 695 USD. This is a bit more than I had expected and I cannot explain why the 530 fare is not selected.
The bad news is that I have a feeling the payment page will demand that my credit card billing country is in Vietnam.
Some credit card companies don't check if the billing country is correct ...
The good news is that by setting the UA.com location to Vietnam/English, and then using the multicity search to specify the exact legs [SGN-TYO/TYO-EWR], I am able to obtain the flights for a grand total of 695 USD. This is a bit more than I had expected and I cannot explain why the 530 fare is not selected.
The bad news is that I have a feeling the payment page will demand that my credit card billing country is in Vietnam.
Some credit card companies don't check if the billing country is correct ...
Jul 6, 2017, 3:56 pm
#1446
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
^
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Is anyone else getting a white blank page instead of the normal ITA Matrix page?
It didn't work for me earlier when I was investigating 764toHI's query and now I am getting withdrawal symptoms ...!
Works for me now, must be a glitch on my end
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It didn't work for me earlier when I was investigating 764toHI's query and now I am getting withdrawal symptoms ...!
Works for me now, must be a glitch on my end
Last edited by Calchas; Jul 6, 2017 at 4:04 pm
Jul 14, 2017, 1:55 am
#1448
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Valencia, Spain
Programs: Pascal and Python, no C++
Posts: 738
Interesting question, how can we make up for a missing "-F".
I shall omit the obvious answer to simply search without a fare restriction and ignore the unwanted fare basis. (but seriously, why don't you?)
One less obvious way would be to only look for fares that start with other letters, like so
F ..a-|..b-|..c-|..e- (omitting a fare basis code starting with the letter "d", for instance). But I haven't tried this with 25 letters of the alphabet, which you would neeed if you don't know anything about that airline's fare code structure
And of course, maybe you should rather look into ExpertFlyer for that
I shall omit the obvious answer to simply search without a fare restriction and ignore the unwanted fare basis. (but seriously, why don't you?)
One less obvious way would be to only look for fares that start with other letters, like so
F ..a-|..b-|..c-|..e- (omitting a fare basis code starting with the letter "d", for instance). But I haven't tried this with 25 letters of the alphabet, which you would neeed if you don't know anything about that airline's fare code structure
And of course, maybe you should rather look into ExpertFlyer for that
Jul 14, 2017, 2:20 am
#1449
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
If, for example, you wanted all BA fares except BA fare Y1N0O4C5, use the & operator to specify both restrictions: f ~BA..Y1N0O4C5&BA.. .
As WolfvanWeen suggests, ExpertFlyer can be better suited to this because you can set a ticketing date in the future to see what fares are presently scheduled to be available on that date. However it cannot price an itinerary for you.
One less obvious way would be to only look for fares that start with other letters, like so
F ..a-|..b-|..c-|..e- (omitting a fare basis code starting with the letter "d", for instance). But I haven't tried this with 25 letters of the alphabet, which you would neeed if you don't know anything about that airline's fare code structure
F ..a-|..b-|..c-|..e- (omitting a fare basis code starting with the letter "d", for instance). But I haven't tried this with 25 letters of the alphabet, which you would neeed if you don't know anything about that airline's fare code structure
Last edited by Calchas; Jul 14, 2017 at 2:30 am
Jul 14, 2017, 7:23 am
#1452
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Aug 9, 2017, 12:24 pm
#1454
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
matrix.itasoftware returns incomplete list
For the past month or so matrix.itasoftware.com seems likely to return a very incomplete list of flights, even for very simple queries.
e.g. "One-way: Los Angeles to DFW, ORD, SEA, PDX, YVR, YUL, Thu, Aug 10" returns just 10 flights, and the only AA flight is to PDX.
Qualifying the carrier with AA+ returns 8 AA flights, including one to DFW but none to ORD.
Specifying just ORD as the destination (still AA+ for carrier) returns 10 AA flights.
Removing the carrier specification returns a total of 9 flights LAX-ORD, two of which are AA.
Not seeing a general outcry, I suppose I'm the only one with this problem, but it makes the tool essentially useless. Any thoughts?
e.g. "One-way: Los Angeles to DFW, ORD, SEA, PDX, YVR, YUL, Thu, Aug 10" returns just 10 flights, and the only AA flight is to PDX.
Qualifying the carrier with AA+ returns 8 AA flights, including one to DFW but none to ORD.
Specifying just ORD as the destination (still AA+ for carrier) returns 10 AA flights.
Removing the carrier specification returns a total of 9 flights LAX-ORD, two of which are AA.
Not seeing a general outcry, I suppose I'm the only one with this problem, but it makes the tool essentially useless. Any thoughts?
Aug 9, 2017, 1:10 pm
#1455
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,123
For the past month or so matrix.itasoftware.com seems likely to return a very incomplete list of flights, even for very simple queries.
e.g. "One-way: Los Angeles to DFW, ORD, SEA, PDX, YVR, YUL, Thu, Aug 10" returns just 10 flights, and the only AA flight is to PDX.
Qualifying the carrier with AA+ returns 8 AA flights, including one to DFW but none to ORD.
Specifying just ORD as the destination (still AA+ for carrier) returns 10 AA flights.
Removing the carrier specification returns a total of 9 flights LAX-ORD, two of which are AA.
Not seeing a general outcry, I suppose I'm the only one with this problem, but it makes the tool essentially useless. Any thoughts?
e.g. "One-way: Los Angeles to DFW, ORD, SEA, PDX, YVR, YUL, Thu, Aug 10" returns just 10 flights, and the only AA flight is to PDX.
Qualifying the carrier with AA+ returns 8 AA flights, including one to DFW but none to ORD.
Specifying just ORD as the destination (still AA+ for carrier) returns 10 AA flights.
Removing the carrier specification returns a total of 9 flights LAX-ORD, two of which are AA.
Not seeing a general outcry, I suppose I'm the only one with this problem, but it makes the tool essentially useless. Any thoughts?