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#1097
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Marriott Titanium
Posts: 2,861
I have yet another wonderful fare and flight combination supplied by ITA, but I can't find ANYWHERE to book it:
Business class fare, prices out to $3225.40. I want to book two tickets:
10/23 LAX-ZRH-MUC-TBS on UA9729, LH2371, LH2556
10/29 TBS-MUC-FRA-SEA-LAX on LH2557, LH95, LH490, UA5611 (or ANY other last flight)
I have tried to find the exact fares on United, Lufthansa, Expedia, Travelocity, and Orbitz, and have called Expedia, IFlyBusiness, and AlphaFlightGuru. Can't find anyone who can stick in the exact flights - they all seem to want to select alternates, and these flights are important to me.
Can ANYONE help me figure out how to get these exact flights booked? If I don't take the UA codeshare on the outbound, the ticket price doubles. If I don't take the flight thru SEA on the return, I don't get a great benefit to me.
Can anyone help?
Itinerary
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tbilisi (TBS) — Fri, Oct 23
Overnight flight
Los Angeles (LAX) to Zurich (ZRH) — Fri, Oct 23
United 9729
Dep: 7:30 pm
Arr: 3:50 pm
11h 20m
Airbus A340
Business (Z)
Meal
OPERATED BY SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES
Layover in ZRH
Sat, Oct 24
1h 5m
Zurich (ZRH) to Munich (MUC) — Sat, Oct 24
Lufthansa 2371
Dep: 4:55 pm
Arr: 5:50 pm
0h 55m
Embraer RJ-195
Business (Z)
Snack or Brunch
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA CITYLINE GMBH
Layover in MUC
3h 30m
Munich (MUC) to Tbilisi (TBS) — Sat, Oct 24
Lufthansa 2556
Dep: 9:20 pm
Arr: 3:05 am
3h 45m
Airbus A319
Business (Z)
Meal
Sun, Oct 25
Tbilisi (TBS) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Thu, Oct 29
Long layover
Tbilisi (TBS) to Munich (MUC) — Thu, Oct 29
Lufthansa 2557
Dep: 5:10 am
Arr: 6:20 am
4h 10m
Airbus A319
Business (Z)
Meal
Layover in MUC
1h 40m
Munich (MUC) to Frankfurt (FRA) — Thu, Oct 29
Lufthansa 95
Dep: 8:00 am
Arr: 9:10 am
1h 10m
Airbus A321
Business (Z)
Snack or Brunch
Layover in FRA
1h 25m
Frankfurt (FRA) to Seattle (SEA) — Thu, Oct 29
Lufthansa 490
Dep: 10:35 am
Arr: 1:20 pm
10h 45m
Airbus A340
Business (Z)
Meal
Layover in SEA
5h 25m
Seattle (SEA) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Thu, Oct 29
United 5611
Dep: 6:45 pm
Arr: 9:30 pm
2h 45m
Canadair RJ 700
First (Z)
Dinner
OPERATED BY SKYWEST DBA UNITED EXPRESS
Mileage
15,650 total miles
CO2 Emissions
4,982 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Tbilisi International (TBS)
Zurich Airport (ZRH)
Munich Franz Joseph Strauss Int'l (MUC)
Frankfurt International (FRA)
Seattle/Tacoma Sea/Tac (SEA)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
$3,225.40
Total cost for 1 passenger
$3,225.40
How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier UA ZLNC5N LAX to TBS (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers LAX-ZRH (Business), ZRH-MUC (Business), MUC-TBS (Business)
$1,299.50
Fare 2: Carrier LH ZLNC5N TBS to LAX (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers TBS-MUC (Business), MUC-FRA (Business), FRA-SEA (Business), SEA-LAX (First)
$1,299.50
German Passenger Service Charge (RA)
$42.60
Switzerland Airport Passenger Security And Noise Charge (CH)
$19.40
UA YQ surcharge (YQ)
$215.00
US International Departure Tax (US)
$17.70
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
$11.20
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
$9.00
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
$5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY)
$7.00
US Customs Fee (YC)
$5.50
Germany DE (DE)
$15.70
LH YQ surcharge (YQ)
$215.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
$17.70
German Passenger Service Charge (RD)
$18.50
Georgia GE (GE)
$23.00
Georgia JA (JA)
$4.10
Subtotal per passenger
$3,225.40
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
$3,225.40
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
LAX UA X/ZRH LH X/MUC LH TBS 1299.50ZLNC5N LH X/MUC LH X/FRA LH X/SEA UA LAX 1299.50ZLNC5N NUC 2599.00 END ROE 1.00 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 35.40US 11.20AY 19.40CH 15.70DE 42.60RA 18.50RD 23.00GE 4.10JA 430.00YQ 9.00XF LAX4.50 SEA4.50
Total Airfare & Taxes
$3,225.40
Business class fare, prices out to $3225.40. I want to book two tickets:
10/23 LAX-ZRH-MUC-TBS on UA9729, LH2371, LH2556
10/29 TBS-MUC-FRA-SEA-LAX on LH2557, LH95, LH490, UA5611 (or ANY other last flight)
I have tried to find the exact fares on United, Lufthansa, Expedia, Travelocity, and Orbitz, and have called Expedia, IFlyBusiness, and AlphaFlightGuru. Can't find anyone who can stick in the exact flights - they all seem to want to select alternates, and these flights are important to me.
Can ANYONE help me figure out how to get these exact flights booked? If I don't take the UA codeshare on the outbound, the ticket price doubles. If I don't take the flight thru SEA on the return, I don't get a great benefit to me.
Can anyone help?
Itinerary
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tbilisi (TBS) — Fri, Oct 23
Overnight flight
Los Angeles (LAX) to Zurich (ZRH) — Fri, Oct 23
United 9729
Dep: 7:30 pm
Arr: 3:50 pm
11h 20m
Airbus A340
Business (Z)
Meal
OPERATED BY SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES
Layover in ZRH
Sat, Oct 24
1h 5m
Zurich (ZRH) to Munich (MUC) — Sat, Oct 24
Lufthansa 2371
Dep: 4:55 pm
Arr: 5:50 pm
0h 55m
Embraer RJ-195
Business (Z)
Snack or Brunch
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA CITYLINE GMBH
Layover in MUC
3h 30m
Munich (MUC) to Tbilisi (TBS) — Sat, Oct 24
Lufthansa 2556
Dep: 9:20 pm
Arr: 3:05 am
3h 45m
Airbus A319
Business (Z)
Meal
Sun, Oct 25
Tbilisi (TBS) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Thu, Oct 29
Long layover
Tbilisi (TBS) to Munich (MUC) — Thu, Oct 29
Lufthansa 2557
Dep: 5:10 am
Arr: 6:20 am
4h 10m
Airbus A319
Business (Z)
Meal
Layover in MUC
1h 40m
Munich (MUC) to Frankfurt (FRA) — Thu, Oct 29
Lufthansa 95
Dep: 8:00 am
Arr: 9:10 am
1h 10m
Airbus A321
Business (Z)
Snack or Brunch
Layover in FRA
1h 25m
Frankfurt (FRA) to Seattle (SEA) — Thu, Oct 29
Lufthansa 490
Dep: 10:35 am
Arr: 1:20 pm
10h 45m
Airbus A340
Business (Z)
Meal
Layover in SEA
5h 25m
Seattle (SEA) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Thu, Oct 29
United 5611
Dep: 6:45 pm
Arr: 9:30 pm
2h 45m
Canadair RJ 700
First (Z)
Dinner
OPERATED BY SKYWEST DBA UNITED EXPRESS
Mileage
15,650 total miles
CO2 Emissions
4,982 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Tbilisi International (TBS)
Zurich Airport (ZRH)
Munich Franz Joseph Strauss Int'l (MUC)
Frankfurt International (FRA)
Seattle/Tacoma Sea/Tac (SEA)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
$3,225.40
Total cost for 1 passenger
$3,225.40
How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier UA ZLNC5N LAX to TBS (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers LAX-ZRH (Business), ZRH-MUC (Business), MUC-TBS (Business)
$1,299.50
Fare 2: Carrier LH ZLNC5N TBS to LAX (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers TBS-MUC (Business), MUC-FRA (Business), FRA-SEA (Business), SEA-LAX (First)
$1,299.50
German Passenger Service Charge (RA)
$42.60
Switzerland Airport Passenger Security And Noise Charge (CH)
$19.40
UA YQ surcharge (YQ)
$215.00
US International Departure Tax (US)
$17.70
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
$11.20
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
$9.00
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
$5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY)
$7.00
US Customs Fee (YC)
$5.50
Germany DE (DE)
$15.70
LH YQ surcharge (YQ)
$215.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
$17.70
German Passenger Service Charge (RD)
$18.50
Georgia GE (GE)
$23.00
Georgia JA (JA)
$4.10
Subtotal per passenger
$3,225.40
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
$3,225.40
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
LAX UA X/ZRH LH X/MUC LH TBS 1299.50ZLNC5N LH X/MUC LH X/FRA LH X/SEA UA LAX 1299.50ZLNC5N NUC 2599.00 END ROE 1.00 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 35.40US 11.20AY 19.40CH 15.70DE 42.60RA 18.50RD 23.00GE 4.10JA 430.00YQ 9.00XF LAX4.50 SEA4.50
Total Airfare & Taxes
$3,225.40
#1098
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Somewhere between if and else
Posts: 142
Use Priceline
*fare gone*
Or if you want to book with UA (itinerary comes up.. so it should work) use this tool
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...serscript.html
p.s. You could could stay a night in SEA as well and take UA6371 the next day.
*fare gone*
Or if you want to book with UA (itinerary comes up.. so it should work) use this tool
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...serscript.html
p.s. You could could stay a night in SEA as well and take UA6371 the next day.
Last edited by Steppo; Aug 19, 2015 at 8:47 am Reason: gone
#1099
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: N/A
Programs: N/A
Posts: 823
I have been working on this for days, and just cannot figure out how to find this fare, so figured I would take a stab on FT...
The routing is CMB-(MLE)-IST-JFK. Departing 29 May 2016 completely on Turkish Airlines
ITA is finding a fare in Sri Lankan Rupee of 185,962 and has shown available for weeks on ITA
Turkish won't even quote the fare in Rupee, will only quote in USD and can't find the lowest fare on this routing. I have called a few times.
I have checked every OTA I can find, but no one can find this damn fare. The only odd fare rule I see is "Must be ticketed in Sri Lanka", but Turkish won't even do that for me.
Any ideas on this??? Appreciate any help.
Fare for 2 adults
Fare 1: Carrier TK JLF2BOX CMB to NYC (rules)
Passenger type ADT, ONE-WAY-ONLY fare, booking code J
Covers CMB-IST (Business), IST-JFK (Business)
SLRs177,019.00
Sri Lanka Embarkation Tax (LK)
SLRs3,250.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
SLRs2,437.00
Turkey TR (TR)
SLRs764.00
US Customs Fee (YC)
SLRs758.00
US Immigration Fee (XY)
SLRs964.00
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
SLRs689.00
Subtotal per passenger
SLRs185,962.00
Number of passengers
x2
Subtotal For 2 adults
SLRs371,924.00
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
CMB TK X/IST TK NYC Q268.81 1052.31JLF2BOX NUC 1321.12 END ROE 133.99 XT 3250LK 764TR 758YC 964XY 689XA 2437US
The routing is CMB-(MLE)-IST-JFK. Departing 29 May 2016 completely on Turkish Airlines
ITA is finding a fare in Sri Lankan Rupee of 185,962 and has shown available for weeks on ITA
Turkish won't even quote the fare in Rupee, will only quote in USD and can't find the lowest fare on this routing. I have called a few times.
I have checked every OTA I can find, but no one can find this damn fare. The only odd fare rule I see is "Must be ticketed in Sri Lanka", but Turkish won't even do that for me.
Any ideas on this??? Appreciate any help.
Fare for 2 adults
Fare 1: Carrier TK JLF2BOX CMB to NYC (rules)
Passenger type ADT, ONE-WAY-ONLY fare, booking code J
Covers CMB-IST (Business), IST-JFK (Business)
SLRs177,019.00
Sri Lanka Embarkation Tax (LK)
SLRs3,250.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
SLRs2,437.00
Turkey TR (TR)
SLRs764.00
US Customs Fee (YC)
SLRs758.00
US Immigration Fee (XY)
SLRs964.00
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
SLRs689.00
Subtotal per passenger
SLRs185,962.00
Number of passengers
x2
Subtotal For 2 adults
SLRs371,924.00
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
CMB TK X/IST TK NYC Q268.81 1052.31JLF2BOX NUC 1321.12 END ROE 133.99 XT 3250LK 764TR 758YC 964XY 689XA 2437US
#1100
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 538
I have yet another wonderful fare and flight combination supplied by ITA, but I can't find ANYWHERE to book it:
Business class fare, prices out to $3225.40. I want to book two tickets:
10/23 LAX-ZRH-MUC-TBS on UA9729, LH2371, LH2556
10/29 TBS-MUC-FRA-SEA-LAX on LH2557, LH95, LH490, UA5611 (or ANY other last flight)
Business class fare, prices out to $3225.40. I want to book two tickets:
10/23 LAX-ZRH-MUC-TBS on UA9729, LH2371, LH2556
10/29 TBS-MUC-FRA-SEA-LAX on LH2557, LH95, LH490, UA5611 (or ANY other last flight)
#1101
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 538
I have been working on this for days, and just cannot figure out how to find this fare, so figured I would take a stab on FT...
The routing is CMB-(MLE)-IST-JFK. Departing 29 May 2016 completely on Turkish Airlines
ITA is finding a fare in Sri Lankan Rupee of 185,962 and has shown available for weeks on ITA
Turkish won't even quote the fare in Rupee, will only quote in USD and can't find the lowest fare on this routing. I have called a few times.
I have checked every OTA I can find, but no one can find this damn fare. The only odd fare rule I see is "Must be ticketed in Sri Lanka", but Turkish won't even do that for me.
Any ideas on this??? Appreciate any help.
The routing is CMB-(MLE)-IST-JFK. Departing 29 May 2016 completely on Turkish Airlines
ITA is finding a fare in Sri Lankan Rupee of 185,962 and has shown available for weeks on ITA
Turkish won't even quote the fare in Rupee, will only quote in USD and can't find the lowest fare on this routing. I have called a few times.
I have checked every OTA I can find, but no one can find this damn fare. The only odd fare rule I see is "Must be ticketed in Sri Lanka", but Turkish won't even do that for me.
Any ideas on this??? Appreciate any help.
In addition, TK is selling the 13hr layover itinerary on its website (set for Sri Lanka) for US$1414/person, which is the USD equivalent of the ITA fare you saw. It is also selling your preferred itinerary for US$2039/person.
#1102
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Somewhere between if and else
Posts: 142
Steppo's advice is very sound, although it looks like you will now need to book UA8717 codeshare instead of LH490 on the FRA-SEA segment to get the price you want on United and Priceline (PL also hits you for a small additional, $7 multi-carrier ticketing fee). Good luck.
#1103
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: N/A
Programs: N/A
Posts: 823
You may be stuck buying in USD. I saw your preferred itinerary on Orbitz for US$1460/person, but the price seems to have climbed now to ~US$2100/person. The lower fare now requires a 13hr layover in IST.
In addition, TK is selling the 13hr layover itinerary on its website (set for Sri Lanka) for US$1414/person, which is the USD equivalent of the ITA fare you saw. It is also selling your preferred itinerary for US$2039/person.
In addition, TK is selling the 13hr layover itinerary on its website (set for Sri Lanka) for US$1414/person, which is the USD equivalent of the ITA fare you saw. It is also selling your preferred itinerary for US$2039/person.
I also came across another FT thread saying TK fares are often not matching ITA which is probably the problem here.
The whole thing is just odd. I am able to price out the shorter layover leg by leg on the turkish website to $1414, but then they try to charge me $125 in booking fees, which they don't do on the 13 hour layover fare.
I think I am just giving up and booking a Qatar flight.
Again, thanks for your help.
#1107
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Anyone else having the QPX issue? I had problems on my work PC, now I'm having problems on my macbook. Getting either internal server error, or QPX capacity exceeded.
I thought maybe it had something to do with how many criteria I was using, so I really stripped down my search but still had the same thing.
I thought maybe it had something to do with how many criteria I was using, so I really stripped down my search but still had the same thing.
#1108
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite/Lifetime Titanium, Delta Platinum Medallion, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 722
Anyone else having the QPX issue? I had problems on my work PC, now I'm having problems on my macbook. Getting either internal server error, or QPX capacity exceeded.
I thought maybe it had something to do with how many criteria I was using, so I really stripped down my search but still had the same thing.
I thought maybe it had something to do with how many criteria I was using, so I really stripped down my search but still had the same thing.