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Originally Posted by pone66
(Post 32011032)
Is that query feature you reference something that is only exposed to a paying account?
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 32009874)
There has been no change ...
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Is there a way to setup a flight alert for an airline that has not posted up their christmas schedule? I am trying to book a flight to Hawaii around Christmas on westjet but they have not released their flights. I was hoping to use expert flyer for notifications the second the flights are available.
I have a pro membership but recieve error messages anytime I try to set this up. |
Originally Posted by kross123
(Post 32020792)
Is there a way to setup a flight alert for an airline that has not posted up their christmas schedule? I am trying to book a flight to Hawaii around Christmas on westjet but they have not released their flights. I was hoping to use expert flyer for notifications the second the flights are available.
I have a pro membership but recieve error messages anytime I try to set this up. |
I booked a flight through AMEX travel using points. Today I was notified that the flight schedule changed by AMEX. I then checked the Delta website to confirm the change. I went back over my emails to make sure I didn't miss the alert from EF informing me of the schedule change. There was none. The EF website Is still showing the old schedule for the flight DL 1664 on Oct. 20, 2020.
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Originally Posted by tbrein
(Post 32048852)
I booked a flight through AMEX travel using points. Today I was notified that the flight schedule changed by AMEX. I then checked the Delta website to confirm the change. I went back over my emails to make sure I didn't miss the alert from EF informing me of the schedule change. There was none. The EF website Is still showing the old schedule for the flight DL 1664 on Oct. 20, 2020.
The other thing that I wonder is whether there's been some glitch caused by the fact that DL1664 appears to operate both JFK-JAX and JAX-JFK - has something got confused about the directionality? |
Something weird happening with EF.
Award availability CUN-LGW Jan 2021 shows as 0 every day, no alerts arrived, but in fact, there are lots available. Paying a premium for what? Expertflyer website - 0 available, Rewardflightfinder website - flights available, BA website - flights available, BA call - flights available. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2c0a3f3664.png https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...847a7aacb4.png https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...062cfd8002.png |
Originally Posted by oruvin
(Post 32070937)
Something weird happening with EF.
Award availability CUN-LGW Jan 2021 shows as 0 every day, no alerts arrived, but in fact, there are lots available. Paying a premium for what? Expertflyer website - 0 available, Rewardflightfinder website - flights available, BA website - flights available, BA call - flights available. If you have further questions about specific searches you should email us directly at [email protected] we didn't see that you did. |
Few days later, ExpertFlyer still doesn't work properly. It's not my (customer's) business how you fetching the data, for me it only matters if the service is working or not. The fact is - service is not working as advertised. Any random excuse will go, but from the customer's point of view, it's irrelevant - advertised service is not being provided.
Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 32073420)
As Rewardflightfinder just scrapes from BA.com so there won't be any difference between the two.
Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 32073420)
If you try to find the inventory on a partner airline website you'll find you can't. In fact Qantas, for example, just returns an error. It's likely BA isn't publishing the inventory correctly and when they do it will be reflected on EF as well.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f9f2b10ce4.png https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...97d6f3a735.png
Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 32073420)
If you have further questions about specific searches you should email us directly at [email protected] we didn't see that you did.
I have no intention sending emails to you, as it won't help me at all (you already showed your type of excuse that would have been used). This is an open forum to share users experience. And this is the key point of this post - to share the experience with EF and warn other users that EF is not as good as it is advertised, especially for paid services. If you'd want to discuss this issue further with me, feel free to send a PM. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by oruvin
(Post 32082827)
If you'd want to discuss this issue further with me, feel free to send a PM. Thanks.
If you don't want to understand how our system works, that's fine, but then don't pretend you know how it works better than we do. We gave the Qantas example to point out that there is an issue with how BA is publishing the award inventory, which happens from time to time. Part of understanding airline data is understanding that it's not like reading a book, there isn't a black and white answer to questions sometimes, we wish it was that easy. Second, we ask you to email us directly so we know who you are and can lookup (and replicate) the exact search you did via your EF account, not because we're trying to get the conversation off the thread or create more work for you or whatever other reason you came up with, it's the best way for us to communicate with our customers properly. If you would like to email us for further help, where we can show you how the BA data is correct when published, then we will be glad to help you. -EFV |
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 32083189)
If you don't want to understand how our system works, that's fine, but then don't pretend you know how it works better than we do. We gave the Qantas example to point out that there is an issue with how BA is publishing the award inventory, which happens from time to time. Part of understanding airline data is understanding that it's not like reading a book, there isn't a black and white answer to questions sometimes, we wish it was that easy.
Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 32083189)
Second, we ask you to email us directly so we know who you are and can lookup (and replicate) the exact search you did via your EF account, not because we're trying to get the conversation off the thread or create more work for you or whatever other reason you came up with, it's the best way for us to communicate with our customers properly. If you would like to email us for further help, where we can show you how the BA data is correct when published, then we will be glad to help you.
-EFV |
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Originally Posted by oruvin
(Post 32088991)
We share our experience - and my experience is that EF is not working the way it is advertised.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0481664eee.png We are indeed happy for everyone to see how dedicated we are to customer service and making sure EF is the best experience possible. You're welcome. |
As my previous few posts illustrate, the discrepancy between EF and Air Canada's availability seems to be happening more often.
Here's my latest experience:
Originally Posted by capedreamer
(Post 32094865)
This seems to be happening more and more with AC.
AC756 on 3/22. EF shows: J9 C9 D9 Z6 P6 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S4 T0 L0 A0 K0 I've tried multiple points of sale (US, Canada, Europe) and asked about further advancement (SFO-YYZ vs. SFO-YYZ-AMS), and multiple AC agents all insist they see nothing below D in all cases. Any ideas? https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...925a647f7a.png
Originally Posted by capedreamer
(Post 32095016)
I am able to see P fare on AC.com. Got another Concierge agent on the phone. Initially, he gave me the same line about his system showing no availability below D. I asked him first to confirm that (1) P space is sufficient to confirm an upgrade from B and (2) he also see the P availability on AC.com.
At first, he said 'yes' to #1 but 'no' to #2 , and insisted that I needed to clear my cache and cookies, blah blah. After much back and forth, he realized he was looking at Feb 22 instead of Mar 22. Then he confirmed he also see P space on AC.com called the NRD and got the upgrade confirmed in 2 minutes. This is insane. No 'normal' customer should be expected to go to these lengths to receive something they're rightfully owed. Thanks for all the help, [MENTION=759220]Adam Smith[/MENTION] and [MENTION=599574]canadiancow[/MENTION]. |
Originally Posted by capedreamer
(Post 32094929)
EDIT: Mystery solved. This seems to be an AC issue (their internal systems aren't speaking to each other). Details here:
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