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Originally Posted by wco81
(Post 14050954)
Why Skype over VPN, additional security?
Skype is already encrypted. So is there a fee only over 3G or over Wifi too? Can't imagine the latter because that will slow down the popularity of Skype, which is the fact that the service is free for Skype to Skype. And international data can be more expensive than international voice roaming. Few American iPhone users are able to use 3G data internationally. |
Originally Posted by wco81
(Post 14050954)
Few American iPhone users are able to use 3G data internationally.
Edit: Even if the fee is $5/month when that starts, you are looking at a break even point when calling from the US to most other countries at under 10/minutes a month. |
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Originally Posted by wco81
(Post 14050954)
Why Skype over VPN, additional security?
Skype is already encrypted. So is there a fee only over 3G or over Wifi too? Can't imagine the latter because that will slow down the popularity of Skype, which is the fact that the service is free for Skype to Skype. And international data can be more expensive than international voice roaming. Few American iPhone users are able to use 3G data internationally. WIFI, and NOT WIFI. Of course, VPN was also "not wifi" so the phone application thought it was using a cellular network (even though it was using WIFI WITH VPN) and it wouldn't allow the traffic to flow. Now, it has more understanding of the DETAIL of the data channel. |
Originally Posted by nmenaker
(Post 14051750)
Many locations, and countries actively block the skype protocal and downloads.
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Wouldn't you have to VPN to some network? For instance, I can VPN into my work network.
Dubai seems to have other restrictions and not being able to use Skype may be the least of them. |
Originally Posted by GateGuru
(Post 12963160)
My name is Dan Gellert and I am the creator of GateGuru. [snip]
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Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 14052100)
Many? You cited Dubai and I think I have heard of one other country. But not many. However, yes a VPN is how you use Skype in the Emirates.
SOME, SEVERAL, A FEW, MORE THAN ONE country OR LOCATION or companies, or ISPS' blocks skype. I can only attest personally to DUBAI, some ISP's in CHINA, (most noteably in shanghai, beijing and xiang) Seoul (in South Korea) I have had skype blocking in hotels in Singapore, Singtel being the monopoly there and Thailand. Turkey is hit or miss, istanbul can work, but in southern Turkey I think there is one telco and they block pretty much en mass. and zimbabwe. I have also had skype blocking, ACTIVE blocking where a message comes back in parts of Mexico and Brazil. While Dubai seems to be a blanketed objective, although I did have no problem in one super high end place in dubai, all of Abu Dhabi was blocked, I HEAR that Jordan, Iran, Syria, Oman, Qatar and Egypt (amongst others I have heard) block skype completely or at least attempt to. So, while I know a COUPLE is defined as TWO and a FEW is three or more, many is indeed more ambiguous but probably falls somewhere above three and less than 1000 on the numeric spectrum? And then of course there are HOTELS and ISP that will block things like this to maintain their limited use of THEIR telco offerings and prices which are usually referred to as EXORBITANT. |
Originally Posted by wco81
(Post 14050954)
So is there a fee only over 3G or over Wifi too? Can't imagine the latter because that will slow down the popularity of Skype, which is the fact that the service is free for Skype to Skype.
Not only that, but if the Skype users are behind a NAT gateway, the data stream often passes through a intermediate person's network. So I'm PAYING Skype for the privilege of letting them use my bandwidth to transit other peoples' calls. This is maddening. :mad: |
Originally Posted by nmenaker
(Post 14052962)
okay, I'll play this little game and change the operative adjective here to
SOME, SEVERAL, A FEW, MORE THAN ONE country OR LOCATION or companies, or ISPS' blocks skype. I can only attest personally to DUBAI, some ISP's in CHINA, (most noteably in shanghai, beijing and xiang) Seoul (in South Korea) I have had skype blocking in hotels in Singapore, Singtel being the monopoly there and Thailand. Turkey is hit or miss, istanbul can work, but in southern Turkey I think there is one telco and they block pretty much en mass. and zimbabwe. I have also had skype blocking, ACTIVE blocking where a message comes back in parts of Mexico and Brazil. While Dubai seems to be a blanketed objective, although I did have no problem in one super high end place in dubai, all of Abu Dhabi was blocked, I HEAR that Jordan, Iran, Syria, Oman, Qatar and Egypt (amongst others I have heard) block skype completely or at least attempt to. So, while I know a COUPLE is defined as TWO and a FEW is three or more, many is indeed more ambiguous but probably falls somewhere above three and less than 1000 on the numeric spectrum? And then of course there are HOTELS and ISP that will block things like this to maintain their limited use of THEIR telco offerings and prices which are usually referred to as EXORBITANT. |
Hmmm... That's Funny the confusion and outrage from MacRumors seems to have coming this way.
Can we simplify this a bit? What we think we know... RE: Skype version 2.0.0 for the iPhones. The optional "small monthly fee" in question enables Skype-to-Skype calls from your iPhone over 3G networks. Period. That's is the only feature this fee seems to apply too IMHO. If you do not like this fee or do need this feature you may continue to make free Skype-to-Skype calls over wifi and apparently now via VPN. ;) Status quo, nothing is being taken away, even improved for some users. Right? Skype Out... The Skype-to-Phones (mobile & land lines) feature is already a paid service and, as I tested, is fully functional over 3G. My online balance goes down as I make calls of course. It's a simple prepaid service for calling people on their telephones. No "small monthly fee" like the Skype-to-Skype service for 3G use. Skype also offers calling plans which I'm guessing would be fully functional over 3G. You are billed a cents/min rate, and a connection fee if you are not on a monthly Skype plan. As usual when using either Skype-to-Skype or Skype Out, iPhone users should always be vigilant to remain within their data plan limits or be prepared to pay a lot more than the expected. A very safe way to avoid headaches is to turn off data roaming when abroad and stick to wifi anyway. Better yet sign up for unlimited global data ;-) What it comes down to is this..iPhone users cannot use their handsets to call (or potentially video call) people over 3G networks without paying for this new capability. Sure not a deal breaker for me. Ultimately, every user is different, but for me, Skype 2.0.0 over 3G is a welcome addition to my quiver of Apps, especially with OS 4.0's multitasking. I suppose other Free mobile Skype-to-Skype options include jailbreaking, Android or Blackberry right? Have at it I want your bandwidth. -Scho |
Skype over 3G
Has anyone tried calls yet? Two major issues.
When you go to actually make a call, a pop up window informs you that calls are free only until the end of August 2010! This contradicts the end of the year statement in the app store description. The quality sucks! At least with my one attempt here in France on a 3GS. I walked outside to get a good 3G signal and could download mail just fine. But the voice quality Skype-to-Skype was pretty much unusable. The person I was calling was on a Mac on WiFi. |
Over here in Lilliput the voice quality from my iPhone over 3G to a buddy's cell in the US was rockin' good. Then did a Skype to Skype with the fellow a couple of posts up ;) that was a crystal clear as you would ever want. That from inside a building next to the core on a 45,000 sq.ft floorplate (i.e. no where near a window).
I like MagicJack clarity for VOIP, but this version of the Skype app. enabling me to make dirt cheap int'l calls during the day from my iPhone absolutely rocks!
Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 14054966)
Has anyone tried calls yet? Two major issues.
When you go to actually make a call, a pop up window informs you that calls are free only until the end of August 2010! This contradicts the end of the year statement in the app store description. The quality sucks! At least with my one attempt here in France on a 3GS. I walked outside to get a good 3G signal and could download mail just fine. But the voice quality Skype-to-Skype was pretty much unusable. The person I was calling was on a Mac on WiFi. |
Originally Posted by schoflyer
(Post 14054951)
Hmmm... That's Funny the confusion and outrage from MacRumors seems to have coming this way.
Can we simplify this a bit? What we think we know... RE: Skype version 2.0.0 for the iPhones. The optional "small monthly fee" in question enables Skype-to-Skype calls from your iPhone over 3G networks. Period. That's is the only feature this fee seems to apply too IMHO. If you do not like this fee or do need this feature you may continue to make free Skype-to-Skype calls over wifi and apparently now via VPN. ;) Status quo, nothing is being taken away, even improved for some users. Right? Unless there is some technical or contractual reason why calling over 3G costs Skype more (they have to route it through their servers to ensure QoS or they have, as guessed at above, signed an exclusivity contract with another carrier), this fee is not only nickel-and-diming but insulting, given that Skype is making money off of other people's donated bandwidth. |
Originally Posted by mjm
(Post 14055131)
Then did a Skype to Skype with the fellow a couple of posts up ;) that was a crystal clear as you would ever want. !
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[QUOTE=stimpy;14054966]Has anyone tried calls yet? Two major issues.
When you go to actually make a call, a pop up window informs you that calls are free only until the end of August 2010! This contradicts the end of the year statement in the app store description. They changed the text online AFTER releasing the app. An update should fix it soon |
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