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Jan 9, 2021, 7:45 am
#226
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My wife and I both use the phone as a hotspot frequently for work with 5G being a benefit over LTE. The other consideration is the bands for your cell provider and the bands supported by your phone. My MiL who is on our plan was having reception issues because the bands and towers changed in her area. Upgrading her 1st gen iPhone SE to iPhone 12 mini improved her service.
Last edited by TGarza; Jan 9, 2021 at 4:29 pm
Jan 9, 2021, 3:51 pm
#227
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Question for IP12 users - is anyone experiencing an issue with non-Apple wireless chargers where charging stops working until you reboot the phone?
Jan 9, 2021, 4:28 pm
#228
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I am using the wireless charger AT&T gave away during a November weekly promotion. The problem I have had is the charging does not always start and the IP12 has to be moved before the wireless charging starts.
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Jan 10, 2021, 4:13 am
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Oh, 5G is a game changer. The big difference I've noticed between 5G and LTE, living in a fairy densely populated urban area (so a lot more cells around with emphasis on service over wide geographic coverage): With double speed LTE, I can do a test at 6:30am and with double speed LTE get up to 200mbps upload and approaching 20 down. This goes down to around 70/20 towards peak hours. With 5G I can get this at any hour (my speed record is actually 390 down). Interestingly, it looks like EE have shaped the traffic depending on where you are. In a residential area? Upload rarely goes above 20mpbs. Walk into more of a business district and doing some speed tests, I found download speed approximately halved while upload speed approximately doubled.
Warning: Speed tests eat data (so careful if your plan isn't unlimited).
Warning: Speed tests eat data (so careful if your plan isn't unlimited).
Imagine the bad press they would get from people reporting 5G speeds in the hundreds of Mbps and having that drain their data bucket?
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Jan 10, 2021, 5:27 am
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For me it's the camera and nothing else. I consider these devices to be portable cameras that just happen to let you make phone calls and do emails. The 12 Max Pro was enough of a camera upgrade over my 7+ to push me to buy new. Depending on the camera evolution going forward, I might keep this phone for a while or swap it next year.
Question for IP12 users - is anyone experiencing an issue with non-Apple wireless chargers where charging stops working until you reboot the phone?
Question for IP12 users - is anyone experiencing an issue with non-Apple wireless chargers where charging stops working until you reboot the phone?
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Jan 10, 2021, 5:55 pm
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I'm not one who likes taking pictures, or posing for pictures... but I can see how that, given that phones nowadays also make for great cameras, that some cameras now happen to have phone and music-playing capabilities. 
Jan 11, 2021, 7:58 am
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For me it's the camera and nothing else. I consider these devices to be portable cameras that just happen to let you make phone calls and do emails. The 12 Max Pro was enough of a camera upgrade over my 7+ to push me to buy new. Depending on the camera evolution going forward, I might keep this phone for a while or swap it next year.
Question for IP12 users - is anyone experiencing an issue with non-Apple wireless chargers where charging stops working until you reboot the phone?
Question for IP12 users - is anyone experiencing an issue with non-Apple wireless chargers where charging stops working until you reboot the phone?
I've always been aware of the minor step changes in camera capability. I've had iPhones since 2010. The step change between the XS and the 12 is as big of improvement as I've ever seen. I love the camera on the 12 and have taken some seriously impressive low-light photos with it.
Jan 11, 2021, 2:10 pm
#234
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I've had my 12 for a couple of months and a couple of cheap wireless charging pads from Amazon (varying brands). No issues until last week when wireless charging didn't work on either charging pad until I restarted the phone. Happened twice, hasn't happened since. Could possibly be related to an iOS update?
Jan 11, 2021, 2:42 pm
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Indeed. How many more generations of iPhones will it take before they drop and replace the "phone" part in the nomenclature since these devices are ever more infrequently used for plain old telephone calls to plain old telephones than just about anything else they can do!
Jan 14, 2021, 5:27 pm
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So assuming we're able to travel sometime this year, anyone going to try to get a prepaid SIM for their iPhone 12?
I had T-Mobile provision the eSIM for regular postpaid service.
But I just realized if I got a prepaid SIM, I won't get 5G on either.
So I don't know if I have to unprovision the T-Mo eSIM if I want to try to use a prepaid with 5G data.
I had T-Mobile provision the eSIM for regular postpaid service.
But I just realized if I got a prepaid SIM, I won't get 5G on either.
So I don't know if I have to unprovision the T-Mo eSIM if I want to try to use a prepaid with 5G data.
Jan 15, 2021, 5:04 am
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So assuming we're able to travel sometime this year, anyone going to try to get a prepaid SIM for their iPhone 12?
I had T-Mobile provision the eSIM for regular postpaid service.
But I just realized if I got a prepaid SIM, I won't get 5G on either.
So I don't know if I have to unprovision the T-Mo eSIM if I want to try to use a prepaid with 5G data.
I had T-Mobile provision the eSIM for regular postpaid service.
But I just realized if I got a prepaid SIM, I won't get 5G on either.
So I don't know if I have to unprovision the T-Mo eSIM if I want to try to use a prepaid with 5G data.
Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 am
#238
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No. We've had them since about at launch, and the third party wireless chargers have always worked flawlessly. Not even sure what brand I'm using, but just ordered from Amazon, Yoo-something, I think.
Jan 15, 2021, 3:57 pm
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To revert to 5G service with dual sims, you only need to temporarily turn off one of the lines. In iPhones this is just a few clicks in the Settings/Cellular Menu. I have two, 5G carriers active and frequently speedtest them this way since it is so simple. There are rumors on the interwebs that dual 5G access will be available soon for iPhones. Apple has been silent on this matter.
I think it requires a new modem, not some software update.
IOW, no dual 5G before iPhone 13 at least.
Hmm, so if I turn off the eSIM, I will have no problems toggling it off and on so that it's only using one network at a time?