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Free data/trials (control-f to find the actual section for each provider)
  1. Eskimo 1GB 2year
  2. RedBullMobile 100MB 1year
  3. Yesim 350 coins 1 year
  4. ExtremeConnect
Device
Be ADVISED: ALL Chinese Mainland and Hong Kong version of EVERY Phone DOES NOT HAVE SUPPORT for eSim
  1. Best device = Apple iPhone
    1. Supports dual eSIM (most android phones w/ eSIM have 1 physical + 1 eSIM slot, but cannot use 2 eSIMs together)
    2. Depending on carrier, supports DSDV (VoLTE voice calls on sim1 gets routed through sim2.data, as though you were doing WiFi calling)
    3. Some androids might support DSDV
  2. esim.me
    1. Allows you to use eSIM on non-native eSIM device
    2. Requires supported/modern phone
    3. Pricey / confusing options
Useful search sites
  1. https://esimdb.com/
  2. https://esims.io/
  3. https://esimradar.com/

eSIM features to consider
  1. Network coverage
    1. which networks are supported (not all eSIM list the networks, and networks can change overtime)
    2. You may want to avoid lower-tier networks or if your phone doesn't support their LTE/5G bands
  2. Amount of data
    1. "Unlimited" data typically has fair usage in ToS/fineprint, eg 0.5-1GB per day or 1GB every 3 days, reset on 4th day midnight. may or may not allow hotspot
    2. Generally data-limited plans allow full-speed w/ hotspot, some offer slow 128kbps after you hit the limit while others cut you off immediately)
  3. length of coverage
    1. eg: 1 day, 3 day, 7 day, 30day, 180day, 365day, noExpiry
  4. Country coverage (single country, regional/EU, global)
  5. Proxy/Latency/IP
    1. Most eSIM providers route you back to their main network, which can incur latency
    2. Your searches will probably geo-locate back to that main network (instead of the country you're in)
    3. Some of your apps may not work (eg Pandora radio only works in USA, won't work in another country)
  6. Data sharing / transfering of eSIM to new device
    1. A few providers allow you to share data, so you can split one plan with multiple eSIM devices (Eskimo, Dent, Vegolink)
    2. Many providers only allow you to activate eSIM profile once. if you have to switch phones, you either lose that data, or have to pay a token amount to get a new eSIM profile with the remaining balance
  7. Price/GB
  8. How data is counted per session
    1. Usually in ToS, usually its rounded up per 1KB/10KB/100KB/1MB increments. Obviously smaller increment is better
  9. Method of activation
    1. Some providers require you to use their app to load the eSIM
    2. Others send you QR code and/or activation URL, for you to manually load onto phone
    3. You need valid network access (via wifi or existing mobile data) to activate eSIM
  10. Expiry countdown
    1. Some providers start counting down expiry once you purchase, or once you activate eSIM onto phone, or once you set foot into country
  11. Speed
    1. generally these eSIM providers get low priority, could be a problem if there is network congestion
    2. you may want to consider a proper provider over an MVNO
  12. Visual Voicemail - it seems depending on the phone and carrier, Visual Voicemail might require a Cellular Connection through your provider or their roaming partners. So, Visual Voicemail might not work if you are using a data-only eSIM with roaming turned off for your "home line"

Unique feature
  1. Ubigi
    1. free eSIM profile. If you don't have valid plan, the eSIM still allows you to connect & browse ubigi.me (and purchase data via creditcard/paypal)
    2. Seems native geo-located IP but still through a regional proxy with some latency (Transactel owns part of Ubigi, and Transactel has their own backend)

Longer term data (180day to no expiry)
  1. Yesim (coins expire 1 year)
  2. Dent (1 year)
  3. Eskimo (2 year)
  4. Esimplus (no expiry)
  5. AIS eSIM2Fly topup (365 day)
  6. 3HK (365 day)

PAYG data
  1. Yesim (varies, deducts from sharedWallet)
  2. Dent (10/GB)
  3. RedBullMobile (varies, need to prepay per GB)





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eSIM thread

Old Jun 7, 2019, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by powerlifter
Well, I took gfunkdave advice and called T-mobile to get a sim swap. I got an idiot on the phone. I told her to send me to tech support to get the sim swap as she did not understand what a sim swap was. Instead, she sent me to a supervisor. We had a very long talk. she told me that they will never use esim for a post-paid account. You are to use the e-sim with a foreign carrier. She also stated that she receives several calls a week when are they going to esim for post-paid accounts. When I got through with her I sent a live chat message for a sim swap. The rep there said they no longer do sim swap with just an EID number. I think they have noted my account so I can not ask for a sim swap. Of course, The foreign carrier I use does not have esim. So I am just outta luck.
WEll that sucks. I'd say keep trying online chat and see if you get a better rep.

If not, you'll just have to be a caveman and swap out the physical SIMs...
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Old Jun 7, 2019, 3:58 pm
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I was just refused to transfer my postpaid account to eSim by Tmobile by chat (giving the EID number for the sim) and my foreign carrier (in Italy) has no eSim support. I will try again tonight but this sucks.
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Old Jun 8, 2019, 6:10 am
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Well, the eSIM concept sure seems to be stalling. I was excited about this but it appears Apple was far more excited about this than the carriers.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why the carriers are so resistant to eSIMs? I mean, why do the care? I pay for my phones in cash, so it's not like I'm on a contract. I can leave any time I choose, so it's not like a physical SIM keeps me "locked" to T-Mobile.

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Old Jun 8, 2019, 12:32 pm
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AT&T has the esim so does Verizon. The last time I checked AT&T they were $120.00 a line. I am sure there are better deals, but that is ridiculous. I just don't understand T-mobile on this.
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Old Jun 10, 2019, 12:05 am
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I've heard the theory that TMobile likes the $25 per SIM card activation fee and somehow hasn't figured out how to charge that for eSIM.

I'd blame it on inertia in upper management, though, as it's easy to do and works fine. (Source: Did it with no issues, very quickly, no issues in the month or two since I did it).
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Old Jun 10, 2019, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by powerlifter
Well, I took gfunkdave advice and called T-mobile to get a sim swap. I got an idiot on the phone. I told her to send me to tech support to get the sim swap as she did not understand what a sim swap was. Instead, she sent me to a supervisor. We had a very long talk. she told me that they will never use esim for a post-paid account. You are to use the e-sim with a foreign carrier. She also stated that she receives several calls a week when are they going to esim for post-paid accounts. When I got through with her I sent a live chat message for a sim swap. The rep there said they no longer do sim swap with just an EID number. I think they have noted my account so I can not ask for a sim swap. Of course, The foreign carrier I use does not have esim. So I am just outta luck.
Originally Posted by gfunkdave
WEll that sucks. I'd say keep trying online chat and see if you get a better rep.

If not, you'll just have to be a caveman and swap out the physical SIMs...
Originally Posted by ckendall
I was just refused to transfer my postpaid account to eSim by Tmobile by chat (giving the EID number for the sim) and my foreign carrier (in Italy) has no eSim support. I will try again tonight but this sucks.
See below, go to your local tmobile store.

Originally Posted by 9Benua
Thank for this thread. My wife got the Xs Max. I've been trying to get t-mobile to swich it to e-sim. I tried Twitter & iMessage several times, they're not willing to do it. I went to the store, got a rep who's willing to try eventhough he think it will not work. He was surprised that the system accept the eid number . I do have to wait 30-45 mins to continue on the next step though.
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Old Jun 10, 2019, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by powerlifter
Has anyone figured out why T-mobile has not allowed post-paid accounts use of the e-sim? If pre-pay has it why not postpaid. Any thoughts?
This article touches on that a bit but also goes far beyond and discusses the reason they and others should get on board.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/next-...esims-anderson
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Old Jun 17, 2019, 7:40 am
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Just a quick report that I used my Ubigi e-SIM in France all last week, and it worked fine. I bought a 3GB plan from their app when I landed at CDG and it started working right away. My phone seemed to prefer the SFR network, but I had weird connectivity dropouts with them. It also worked with Orange, so I set my phone to Orange manually and everything worked well.
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 3:01 am
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Traveling through Switzerland, Austria, Hungary. Bought the Europe-wide $59 10GB Ubigi package for my wife. Shes a data monster and ate through the entire allotment (half through tethering) in 5 or 6 days. Tried to top up with another 10GB but was told that I already purchased that. I was able to buy her the $25 3GB package, but had to restart the IPhone to get it going.
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 7:30 pm
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10GB in 5 or 6 days, while on vacation?! Tell her to stop streaming Netflix on vacation! 😄

Originally Posted by boberonicus
Traveling through Switzerland, Austria, Hungary. Bought the Europe-wide $59 10GB Ubigi package for my wife. Shes a data monster and ate through the entire allotment (half through tethering) in 5 or 6 days. Tried to top up with another 10GB but was told that I already purchased that. I was able to buy her the $25 3GB package, but had to restart the IPhone to get it going.
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Old Jun 19, 2019, 2:19 am
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10GB in 5 or 6 days, while on vacation?! Tell her to stop streaming Netflix on vacation! 😄
Instagram stories. You tell her.
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Old Jun 20, 2019, 7:07 pm
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What is the cost to add eSim to a phone for the manufacturer ?

Will they start showing up on cheaper phones ?
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Old Jun 30, 2019, 8:39 pm
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Advice Needed re Ubigi and Verizon Iphone Xs

I have an unlocked Verizon Iphone Xs. My primary number is on the esim and the secondary number is on the physical sim.

Today, while still in my home area, while using the Ubigi website as a guide (the picture instructions did not exactly match my reality), I tried downloading a Ubigi profile. After I installed the QR code, my primary number stopped accepting and making calls. Yikes, I immediately deleted the Ubigi profile, reset some settings, and things seem to be back to normal.

Anyone have an idea of why the Ubigi altered my phone's ability to make/receive calls and how I can install Ubigi so that I can use it for data when I travel.

Many thanks.
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Old Jun 30, 2019, 8:46 pm
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Only one eSIM at a time can be used I believe. You can store more than one eSIM in your iPhone, but you can use only one at a time. To switch eSIMs, tap Settings, tap either Cellular or Mobile Data, and then tap the plan you want to use. Then tap Turn On This Line.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209044


Originally Posted by 747FC
I have an unlocked Verizon Iphone Xs. My primary number is on the esim and the secondary number is on the physical sim.

Today, while still in my home area, while using the Ubigi website as a guide (the picture instructions did not exactly match my reality), I tried downloading a Ubigi profile. After I installed the QR code, my primary number stopped accepting and making calls. Yikes, I immediately deleted the Ubigi profile, reset some settings, and things seem to be back to normal.

Anyone have an idea of why the Ubigi altered my phone's ability to make/receive calls and how I can install Ubigi so that I can use it for data when I travel.

Many thanks.
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Old Jun 30, 2019, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by PackingIt
Only one eSIM at a time can be used I believe. You can store more than one eSIM in your iPhone, but you can use only one at a time. To switch eSIMs, tap Settings, tap either Cellular or Mobile Data, and then tap the plan you want to use. Then tap Turn On This Line.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209044
Thank you. I'm wondering whether I need to change my Primary line to the physical Sim so that I can then use the eSim for data with Ubigi? I do not need my Secondary line while I am traveling.
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