Tumi vs. Travelpro vs. Briggs & Riley Quality
#91
Join Date: Mar 2012
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I get what you're saying. To me, the stronger the warranty, the better your odds of getting a trouble-free 5 years (or more) from the bargain bag.
I've used TravelPro in the past. Gotten reasonably good use out of the two bags we purchased, but was never particularly impressed with their functionality, build quality or style. Always felt like when you get a kinda cheap but kinda ok rental car and it does the trick but you just can't wait to get home to drive the one in your own garage.
I'm probably going to replace the large Travel Pro 27" units we have with the ebags wheeled duffel. Positive customer reviews combined with a rock solid warranty make me think this is a reasonable choice. We'll see.
I've used TravelPro in the past. Gotten reasonably good use out of the two bags we purchased, but was never particularly impressed with their functionality, build quality or style. Always felt like when you get a kinda cheap but kinda ok rental car and it does the trick but you just can't wait to get home to drive the one in your own garage.
I'm probably going to replace the large Travel Pro 27" units we have with the ebags wheeled duffel. Positive customer reviews combined with a rock solid warranty make me think this is a reasonable choice. We'll see.
#92
Join Date: Aug 2011
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I get what you are saying, but I don't have a problem buying a bag for 1/3 the price and have it last 5 years. Then instead of dealing with warranties I buy a new one for another 5 years. By the end we have had the same result, but I've saved 1/3 the cost and the time it takes to do the warranty/repair dance. Honestly, I don't care as much about the cost as I do the hassle of the return.
#93
Join Date: Jan 2011
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I care about the warranty. A lot. And for a few different reasons.
To me, the warranty tells me a lot about how the manufacturer views the quality of their bag. A no bs lifetime warranty tells me they are confident in their quality. Do I want the bag to last forever? No. But I'd like to get 10 years of trouble free use from it..
To me, the warranty tells me a lot about how the manufacturer views the quality of their bag. A no bs lifetime warranty tells me they are confident in their quality. Do I want the bag to last forever? No. But I'd like to get 10 years of trouble free use from it..
There are companies who sell quality merchandise at a very reasonable cost, and who DO offer lifetime warranties. Look at ebags and Eagle Creek, for example. You can get the best of both worlds. Affordable, well made stuff AND the solid warranty to back it up.
#94
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Simba, I understand what you're saying, but I still think my assertion has merit, that the strength of the warranty gives some indication of how the manufacturer views the quality of their product. There are those who give a 'limited lifetime warranty' that sounds good at first glance but has so many exclusions to be almost meaningless. Then there are those like Briggs and Riley, or ebags, where it appears the warranty is simply "if it gets screwed up, we'll take care of it. Every time."
Tumi priced in the cost of their lifetime warranty, and then their quality took a dump and I'll bet the actual costs of that warranty program skyrocketed to the point they felt they had no fiscal choice but to modify it. Instead, they should've addressed the quality side, but sadly, they didn't.
Tumi doesn't offer a lifetime warranty any longer, for a reason. Their quality is nowhere close to what it was back when they did offer it.
Tumi priced in the cost of their lifetime warranty, and then their quality took a dump and I'll bet the actual costs of that warranty program skyrocketed to the point they felt they had no fiscal choice but to modify it. Instead, they should've addressed the quality side, but sadly, they didn't.
Tumi doesn't offer a lifetime warranty any longer, for a reason. Their quality is nowhere close to what it was back when they did offer it.
#95
Join Date: Jan 2011
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The problem with the cheaper bags is that you don't get to decide when your zipper will fail. For me, it was the morning of the flight home, with about half an hour before the shuttle took me to the airport. I think that higher quality equals less likely to leave me in the lurch.
True the occurance will be less likely, but no less disappointing when it happens.
There are reports of folks whose bags such as (B&R, ebags, Victorinox) fail all the time and then have to use the warranty.Consumers do pay for that up front for that.
I spent $50 six years ago on a 5 piece set from some department store (i was just out from school..no $$)when I started to work and needed to travel weekly for my job. I'm STILL using that set today. Everything works. I got lucky. The large bag has a bit of scuffle on it, but I get GREAT value from it for the amount I paid.
A year later I bought a rolling duffle bag from Eddie Bauer for about $75. It works great (BTW im pretty sure that their old manufacturer now makes bags under the name "Athalon").
I'd like to get value for my buck, without paying a ton for it up front.
#96
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Yes, but a traveler never gets to decide when a zipper will fail no matter what the bag.
True the occurance will be less likely, but no less disappointing when it happens.
There are reports of folks whose bags such as (B&R, ebags, Victorinox) fail all the time and then have to use the warranty.Consumers do pay for that up front for that.
I spent $50 six years ago on a 5 piece set from some department store (i was just out from school..no $$)when I started to work and needed to travel weekly for my job. I'm STILL using that set today. Everything works. I got lucky. The large bag has a bit of scuffle on it, but I get GREAT value from it for the amount I paid.
A year later I bought a rolling duffle bag from Eddie Bauer for about $75. It works great (BTW im pretty sure that their old manufacturer now makes bags under the name "Athalon").
I'd like to get value for my buck, without paying a ton for it up front.
True the occurance will be less likely, but no less disappointing when it happens.
There are reports of folks whose bags such as (B&R, ebags, Victorinox) fail all the time and then have to use the warranty.Consumers do pay for that up front for that.
I spent $50 six years ago on a 5 piece set from some department store (i was just out from school..no $$)when I started to work and needed to travel weekly for my job. I'm STILL using that set today. Everything works. I got lucky. The large bag has a bit of scuffle on it, but I get GREAT value from it for the amount I paid.
A year later I bought a rolling duffle bag from Eddie Bauer for about $75. It works great (BTW im pretty sure that their old manufacturer now makes bags under the name "Athalon").
I'd like to get value for my buck, without paying a ton for it up front.
B&R bags simply do not fail all the time. I actually had the first thing I would call a failure on one of mine last week as I was arriving at the airport to depart on a trip. It was at least a 10 year old bag that gets a lot of use. And it didnt completely fail. One of the two columns on the handle broke. But I was able to complete the trip, including rolling the bag with a briefcase sitting on top of it, with the remaining arm.
#97
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But it doesnt mean that its (far) better product than another that doesnt offer the same warranty. It could mean that the manufacturer choose not to bake into the MSRP of the bag, the cost of reparing or replacing that bag IF something should go wrong.
That seems to be the consensus on the board.
#98
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Well, from what little research I've done so far, product quality does seem to correlate to some degree with the strength of the warranty.
Are there any great quality lines with crappy warranties?
Now, I completely agree that a strong warranty doesn't mean the $300 bag is better than it's $170 competitor. But I'll take the $170 bag with the strong warranty over the $300 bag with the lousy warranty every day of the week.
Are there any great quality lines with crappy warranties?
Now, I completely agree that a strong warranty doesn't mean the $300 bag is better than it's $170 competitor. But I'll take the $170 bag with the strong warranty over the $300 bag with the lousy warranty every day of the week.
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It turns out Tumi doesn't give a lot of bang for the buck in the warranty department. Briggs still seems to be the gold standard, but there are a few other good ones. I did a full review here,
#103
Join Date: Mar 2012
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eBags also has a very strong warranty. Much better than Tumi's.
Tumi's warranty is very frustrating for me. I'm a long time Tumi user. As I stated on my computer backpack review thread, I've had a Tumi ballistic briefcase that I've loved, but the dang thing is literally decomposing and I've already had to send it back for repair 18 months ago and that cost over $100. Not putting any more money into this bag.
If I was confident in Tumi's quality and warranty, I would just buy a Tumi laptop backpack. I love their materials, designs and functionality. But I'm not spending that money on a bag whose zippers, stitching and panels are going to start falling apart in 5-6 years. Which is precisely what I believe would happen were I to buy another Tumi case.
Tumi's warranty is very frustrating for me. I'm a long time Tumi user. As I stated on my computer backpack review thread, I've had a Tumi ballistic briefcase that I've loved, but the dang thing is literally decomposing and I've already had to send it back for repair 18 months ago and that cost over $100. Not putting any more money into this bag.
If I was confident in Tumi's quality and warranty, I would just buy a Tumi laptop backpack. I love their materials, designs and functionality. But I'm not spending that money on a bag whose zippers, stitching and panels are going to start falling apart in 5-6 years. Which is precisely what I believe would happen were I to buy another Tumi case.
#104
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eBags also has a very strong warranty. Much better than Tumi's.
Tumi's warranty is very frustrating for me. I'm a long time Tumi user. As I stated on my computer backpack review thread, I've had a Tumi ballistic briefcase that I've loved, but the dang thing is literally decomposing and I've already had to send it back for repair 18 months ago and that cost over $100. Not putting any more money into this bag.
If I was confident in Tumi's quality and warranty, I would just buy a Tumi laptop backpack. I love their materials, designs and functionality. But I'm not spending that money on a bag whose zippers, stitching and panels are going to start falling apart in 5-6 years. Which is precisely what I believe would happen were I to buy another Tumi case.
Tumi's warranty is very frustrating for me. I'm a long time Tumi user. As I stated on my computer backpack review thread, I've had a Tumi ballistic briefcase that I've loved, but the dang thing is literally decomposing and I've already had to send it back for repair 18 months ago and that cost over $100. Not putting any more money into this bag.
If I was confident in Tumi's quality and warranty, I would just buy a Tumi laptop backpack. I love their materials, designs and functionality. But I'm not spending that money on a bag whose zippers, stitching and panels are going to start falling apart in 5-6 years. Which is precisely what I believe would happen were I to buy another Tumi case.
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