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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 2:46 pm
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 10:18 am
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I've been getting some arg's lately as well.

Well, at least the forum is ready for 'talk like a pirate day'...
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 2:10 pm
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Username does not show up when liking a post



Whenever I have liked a post recently, my username shows up not with my username but this odd "ARG:6 UNDEFINED" user. I have tried this in Google Chrome with both MacOS and Windows 10 Pro.
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 3:35 pm
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 3:39 pm
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Ah, thanks for the information. I knew I should've searched the forum before posting. I'd give your response a like, but...
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 3:07 am
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Whenever I have liked a post recently, my username shows up not with my username but this odd "ARG:6 UNDEFINED" user. I have tried this in Google Chrome with both MacOS and Windows 10 Pro.
Originally Posted by jrl767
I've been complaining about this for months, but it doesn't seem like FT will ever fix it. I think someone from FT said they couldn't replicate the problem? It's pretty annoying!
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Old May 10, 2022 | 3:43 pm
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I keep running into this as well, for months now. Come on guys! You are able to insert inappropriate advertisement-posts in the topic lists, but cannot fix this? Have whichever software company that builds the forum software fix this once and for all..
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Old May 10, 2022 | 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Xandrios
I keep running into this as well, for months now. Come on guys! You are able to insert inappropriate advertisement-posts in the topic lists, but cannot fix this? Have whichever software company that builds the forum software fix this once and for all..
Those are two completely different departments (also, your ads are partially a reflection of browsing habits. Not always, just depends on the ad). We had a fix and rolled it out. Everyone HATED it. Except that FlyerTalk is the only site that has any kind of issue with the newest Likes product (called Post Thanks), so making changes to it to fit FT has been slow. There is no one to work on FT's Likes product, because it isn't the standard. As our older tech team has departed, people with the skills to work on custom stuff are gone.
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Old May 10, 2022 | 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
Those are two completely different departments (also, your ads are partially a reflection of browsing habits. Not always, just depends on the ad). We had a fix and rolled it out. Everyone HATED it. Except that FlyerTalk is the only site that has any kind of issue with the newest Likes product (called Post Thanks), so making changes to it to fit FT has been slow. There is no one to work on FT's Likes product, because it isn't the standard. As our older tech team has departed, people with the skills to work on custom stuff are gone.
I've been complaining about this for a very long time now. I guess the answer is that it'll never be fixed?

I don't know what "fix" you're referring to. FT was working fine for me until you guys tried to fix something that wasn't broken...
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Old May 10, 2022 | 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by lsquare
I've been complaining about this for a very long time now. I guess the answer is that it'll never be fixed?

I don't know what "fix" you're referring to. FT was working fine for me until you guys tried to fix something that wasn't broken...
That's the key phrase in there. The first reports of ARG:UNDEFINED occurred in August 2021: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...undefined.html

The Post Thanks switch was implemented in October and quickly rolled back. The Post Thanks product had no bearing on who gets ARG or when it occurs. The Post Thanks product IS the solution to ARG:UNDEFINED.
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Old May 10, 2022 | 5:59 pm
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
That's the key phrase in there. The first reports of ARG:UNDEFINED occurred in August 2021: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...undefined.html

The Post Thanks switch was implemented in October and quickly rolled back. The Post Thanks product had no bearing on who gets ARG or when it occurs. The Post Thanks product IS the solution to ARG:UNDEFINED.
So, what changed around August 2021, and why can't that be rolled back? I can't imagine the frontend "like" code would be spread out across a huge number of files, so even by early 2000s industry-standard software development practices, it ought to be fairly trivial to look in source control and identify the offending check-in/commit. (It may be harder now that other changes have been made since then, but it would certainly have been trivial in say late August or early September 2021)
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Old May 11, 2022 | 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by Zorak
So, what changed around August 2021, and why can't that be rolled back? I can't imagine the frontend "like" code would be spread out across a huge number of files, so even by early 2000s industry-standard software development practices, it ought to be fairly trivial to look in source control and identify the offending check-in/commit. (It may be harder now that other changes have been made since then, but it would certainly have been trivial in say late August or early September 2021)
Nothing was changed, that's the thing. I had them look it up and down back then and no one could figure it out.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
Those are two completely different departments (also, your ads are partially a reflection of browsing habits. Not always, just depends on the ad).
Which is slightly different to how the issue is addressed on another IB run site. (Assuming you are the same IBJoel) I also dont see the same complaints with the Like feature. Yall running different code base across your sites?
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Old May 11, 2022 | 2:17 pm
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Which is slightly different to how the issue is addressed on another IB run site. (Assuming you are the same IBJoel) I also dont see the same complaints with the Like feature. Yall running different code base across your sites?
It depends on the ad and the site. FlyerTalk has more direct sale of ads compared to say, BikeForums. There's also the issue of what constitutes an "inappropriate" ad, which varies from user to user. Across all sites, we ban ads on firearms, alcohol, and tobacco (to my knowledge). The sole exception is our hunting site with firearms, for obvious reasons.

We do run multiple different ad platforms, but I don't know all of the particulars, my experience is generally with Google Ads.

In regards to the Likes product, yes, FlyerTalk does have a different Likes system in place than every other site. When we attempted to switch over to the standard one here, everyone hated it (which I get for several reasons and I'm not saying that in a negative way).
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Old May 11, 2022 | 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
Those are two completely different departments (also, your ads are partially a reflection of browsing habits. Not always, just depends on the ad). We had a fix and rolled it out. Everyone HATED it. Except that FlyerTalk is the only site that has any kind of issue with the newest Likes product (called Post Thanks), so making changes to it to fit FT has been slow. There is no one to work on FT's Likes product, because it isn't the standard. As our older tech team has departed, people with the skills to work on custom stuff are gone.
In light of this and some threads in forums such as Coronavirus and travel in which a small group of people systematically like each other, I move to discard the FT Like button altogether.

Before 2009, Facebook had given users a simple timelinea never-ending stream of content generated by their friends and connections, with the newest posts at the top and the oldest ones at the bottom. This was often overwhelming in its volume, but it was an accurate reflection of what others were posting. That began to change in 2009, when Facebook offered users a way to publicly like posts with the click of a button.
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Shortly after its Like button began to produce data about what best engaged its users, Facebook developed algorithms to bring each user the content most likely to generate a like or some other interaction, eventually including the share as well. Later research showed that posts that trigger emotionsespecially anger at out-groupsare the most likely to be shared.
First, the dart guns of social media give more power to trolls and provocateurs while silencing good citizens. Research by the political scientists Alexander Bor and Michael Bang Petersen found that a small subset of people on social-media platforms are highly concerned with gaining status and are willing to use aggression to do so.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-babel/629369/
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